What is wrong with Mcdavid?

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Kryten

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He needs to be smacked around a bit by Crosby. You cant be acting like a baby for this long Connor
 

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McDavid looked broken this game. Can't be easy going through this as one of the best players on the planet and team captain.
 

Luigi Lemieux

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If he's injured sit him. This is the worst he's looked in his career. Flubbing passes and shots, falling over, slow (for him), can't move laterally, frustrated. Don't risk the golden goose to try and salvage a lost season.
 
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pahlsson

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He's just like Kawhi, but the difference is that they can't trade him to a team who'll win a title because the other team was crippled by injuries.
lol he's nothing like kawhi

kawhi coasts all regular season and turns it up in the playoffs

the only time mcdavid turns it up is on a 5min advantage in a 6-1 blowout in february
 

AmabileCassarole

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lol he's nothing like kawhi

kawhi coasts all regular season and turns it up in the playoffs

the only time mcdavid turns it up is on a 5min advantage in a 6-1 blowout in february

Ah, but he's like Kawhi when it comes to not being a leader or team player, and that's the point. When's the last time you saw either of them take charge? All I've ever seen is McDavid get mad about Demko puking in his mask.
 

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I think he's clearly playing through an injury.

That being said, he's whining more than ever, and he was playing a bit too chippy out there. That's not his game.

He needs to lead by example.
 

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One goal in 4 games for the greatest offense talent we have seen in 30+ years is underwhelming, sorry. He also finished -2 that year.

You can shrug +/- off I guess, but it’s a shame that McDavid can’t win his matchups with consistency over the course of notable sample sizes in the playoffs.

No it wasn’t all Crosby’s fault, but he acknowledged that he as the leader of the team can’t let the game get away from them on the defensive side like that in order to win.
So basically your logic is that McDavid has to be scoring all the goals and making all the plays or else he’s a failure. And you don’t see the flaw in That logic. And yea, a 4 game sample size is hardly enough to make what your saying make sense.

Last time I checked, +/- is a team stat more than anything. And that fact that that’s your only “evidence” to his short comings shows that your argument in general is trash.

Crosbys “defense” wasn’t the difference maker. Getting offensive talent like Kessel was and solid goaltending like Murray was. A well built, and spread out offense won him more cups, ALONG with Malkin and his offensive contribution.

This idea that McDavid needs to play defense and magically all the oilers problems will magically go away, it’s the dumbest idea.
 

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Been saying it for years. He’s not a winner. He’s not a leader.
What qualities a great leader? It’s no coincidence that the “best leaders” also had the best talent around them. Funny how he’s no longer a great leader because the team around him is a mess, and that’s some how his fault.

Some of you posters have the worst takes :laugh:
 

Lando929292

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So basically your logic is that McDavid has to be scoring all the goals and making all the plays or else he’s a failure. And you don’t see the flaw in That logic. And yea, a 4 game sample size is hardly enough to make what your saying make sense.

Last time I checked, +/- is a team stat more than anything. And that fact that that’s your only “evidence” to his short comings shows that your argument in general is trash.

Crosbys “defense” wasn’t the difference maker. Getting offensive talent like Kessel was and solid goaltending like Murray was. A well built, and spread out offense won him more cups, ALONG with Malkin and his offensive contribution.

This idea that McDavid needs to play defense and magically all the oilers problems will magically go away, it’s the dumbest idea.
Crosbys penguins were far from perfect in their cup runs.... Ron freaking hainsey played top 4 minutes in one of them and they still won...mcdavid playing defense better isn't the answer but just the way the Oilers folded after one goal is a problem... Their goaltending is really bad but they also have terrible team defense in general and one goal completely Brock them this game
 

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If he's injured sit him. This is the worst he's looked in his career. Flubbing passes and shots, falling over, slow (for him), can't move laterally, frustrated. Don't risk the golden goose to try and salvage a lost season.
It's pretty obvious this is "what's wrong" with him. He's injured. The Oilers had to rush him back into the lineup because they're desperate and at this point, have no choice.

Bolded is the clear tell. He can't make those sharp cuts/pivots laterally. The top speed isn't too far off, but he's not able to dig into his edges hard, which is one of the biggest advantages he has. Likely knee injury.

McDavid looked broken this game. Can't be easy going through this as one of the best players on the planet and team captain.
He is literally injured.

What you are seeing is mcdavid without his speed. He is gonna need to adjust his game in the upcoming years
He's injured.

No, he’s not, just a slump
He is clearly injured.
 

SillyRabbit

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It's pretty obvious this is "what's wrong" with him. He's injured. The Oilers had to rush him back into the lineup because they're desperate and at this point, have no choice.

Bolded is the clear tell. He can't make those sharp cuts/pivots laterally. The top speed isn't too far off, but he's not able to dig into his edges hard, which is one of the biggest advantages he has. Likely knee injury.


He is literally injured.


He's injured.


He is clearly injured.
I agree he's injured.

It's pretty short-sighted for both the Oilers and for McDavid himself however, to have him in the lineup.

There's a risk of further aggravating the injury.

Even if he's lucky and that doesn't happen, it will still prolong the amount of time it will take for him to fully recover compared to if he was resting and rehabbing instead.

For a player as important as McDavid, it's in the best interests of both sides that he fully recovers.

They need McDavid at 100% if they want to win.
 

GreatGonzo

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Crosbys penguins were far from perfect in their cup runs.... Ron freaking hainsey played top 4 minutes in one of them and they still won...mcdavid playing defense better isn't the answer but just the way the Oilers folded after one goal is a problem... Their goaltending is really bad but they also have terrible team defense in general and one goal completely Brock them this game
Their defense, and defensive depth overall is weak and their goaltending has folded on them more than anything. Again, would a “team defense” work? Maybe, but facts are Crosbys Pens had plenty of tools offensively and you need others to step up. McDavid hasn’t had that yet, even Drai is playing like trash and didn’t do himself any favors in last years playoffs.
 

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So basically your logic is that McDavid has to be scoring all the goals and making all the plays or else he’s a failure.
Whoa, not going to follow you on this straw man. Obviously that’s not what I said.

McDavid is perfect and deserves zero criticism. Sorry I even brought up such notion. It’s okay buddy. Take a breath.
 

Martin Skoula

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So basically your logic is that McDavid has to be scoring all the goals and making all the plays or else he’s a failure. And you don’t see the flaw in That logic. And yea, a 4 game sample size is hardly enough to make what your saying make sense.

Last time I checked, +/- is a team stat more than anything. And that fact that that’s your only “evidence” to his short comings shows that your argument in general is trash.

Crosbys “defense” wasn’t the difference maker. Getting offensive talent like Kessel was and solid goaltending like Murray was. A well built, and spread out offense won him more cups, ALONG with Malkin and his offensive contribution.

This idea that McDavid needs to play defense and magically all the oilers problems will magically go away, it’s the dumbest idea.

He doesn’t need to be a shutdown guy, he does have to pretend to care that the D zone exists. Whatever balance of offense vs defense him and the coaching staff settle on, he HAS TO win his match ups. When the rest of the team is dogshit this is non negotiable. It doesn’t matter if he finishes his ES minutes 2-1 or 9-7, he simply cannot hand the rest of the team a losing score when his shift ends. For the rest of the team going 0-0 in their minutes is a win.

McDavid’s minutes + special teams net difference (PP minus PK) need to come out positive every single time if you’re praying for the rest of the team to tread water for 35 minutes and go even.
 
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