What is wrong with Mcdavid?

[DuklaNation]

GM stinks. Still trying to figure out trading away #20 Wallstedt (a gamble on high end goalie that you need now) for an offensive forward. Look at their trade history, other than Ekholm, they don't address their needs. RNH should have been dumped a while ago.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Yes. Really.

Regression to mean would refer to him regress back to "normal" after a series of extreme results.

McDavid has been playing at or above 1.5ppg for five years now . That is a very statistically relevant amount of games

At this point regression to the mean would be him playing at 1.5ppg.

Sorry I'm just shocked anyone would think I was being serious.

 

[Score08]

Nothing, relax.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

He's sad the other Conner got drafted by a real team.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

He was rushed back in the lineup because it was clear that the mentality fragile Oilers were going to have guaranteed losses without him in the lineup.

This wasn’t always the case,but it is this season.

 

[Staniowski]

McDavid has been unable to score goals at even-strength, against good teams, for a very long time now. In the last 20 games of the last regular season, the playoffs last season, and so far this season, he basically only scores on the PP and against very weak teams. He can't score otherwise.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Stacked teams win cups not players

The best player will be a big reason but at the end of the day they cant make up for team flaws especially in hockey

Mcdavid is one of the best playoff performers ever through 50 games.

The oilers management should be ashamed of how they have not been able to get a 1D and 1G for Mcdavid despite him and draisaitl being 5-6M underpaid

No, well coached teams with good talent win championships. The parity in this league is unreal, there aren’t any ‘stacked’ teams.

McDavid is objectively one of the highest point producers through 50 playoff games. It’s ridiculous to say he is one of the best playoff performers ever though, the entire offense runs through him and when he disappears so does the oilers chances to win. And he has disappeared, a lot for a superstar of his caliber.

 

[GreatGonzo]

Don’t disagree at all but winning also requires a mentality and a leader who is able to have that mentality.

Has he ever led his team to a championship?

No, winning requires depth, solid defense and goaltending…all of which the oilers do not have. Blaming it on one player for his “mentality” is again, so lazy. The guy performs just fine in the playoffs…pretty sure that shows his leadership and mentality of wanting to win.

No, well coached teams with good talent win championships. The parity in this league is unreal, there aren’t any ‘stacked’ teams.

McDavid is objectively one of the highest point producers through 50 playoff games. It’s ridiculous to say he is one of the best playoff performers ever though, the entire offense runs through him and when he disappears so does the oilers chances to win. And he has disappeared, a lot for a superstar of his caliber.

Just curious. When has he “disappeared?” Especially compared to the rest of his team.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Just curious. When has he “disappeared?” Especially compared to the rest of his team.

I’m not comparing him to the rest of his team, the comparison was against the greatest playoff performers ever.

He has certainly had some poor performances in elimination games in the past, and many games where he scores a few goals and ends up -1.

I’m not putting all this on him, but he does shoulder some of the blame for the defensive woes in the playoffs. Someone like Crosby in his prime, for all the flack he is given, isn’t letting his line have a multi-goal game and ending with a negative plus-minus on the scoresheet all too often in the playoffs.

 

[TheGreatOne11]

He's sad the other Conner got drafted by a real team.

A real team? What constitutes a real team? Having a trauma specialist on stand-by?

 

[AndreRoy]

A complete lack of heart, guts, and leadership?

At this rate McDavid will go down as the Dan Marino of hockey: a dominant offensive player who never got it done when it mattered.

 

[KaraLupin]

No, winning requires depth, solid defense and goaltending…all of which the oilers do not have. Blaming it on one player for his “mentality” is again, so lazy. The guy performs just fine in the playoffs…pretty sure that shows his leadership and mentality of wanting to win.

Just curious. When has he “disappeared?” Especially compared to the rest of his team.

I recently watched a game where a returning Sam Gagner potted two goals to draw the game to within one goal, and in the last 5 minutes of the game McDavid just wilted away and they eventually lost with the goalie pulled.

Is that not a character flaw, or just "team depth sucks"?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

He probably could use a bit more rest to heal up his injury and get back to 100%. But seeing how he is the Oilers, they can't afford for him to be out of the lineup.

 

[GreatGonzo]

I’m not comparing him to the rest of his team, the comparison was against the greatest playoff performers ever.

He has certainly had some poor performances in elimination games in the past, and many games where he scores a few goals and ends up -1.

I’m not putting all this on him, but he does shoulder some of the blame for the defensive woes in the playoffs. Someone like Crosby in his prime, for all the flack he is given, isn’t letting his line have a multi-goal game and ending with a negative plus-minus on the scoresheet all too often in the playoffs.

Ok so again, show us where he “disappeared” because as far as I’m concerned, scoring a “couple of goals” isn’t disappearing.

I recently watched a game where a returning Sam Gagner potted two goals to draw the game to within one goal, and in the last 5 minutes of the game McDavid just wilted away and they eventually lost with the goalie pulled.

Is that not a character flaw, or just "team depth sucks"?

Because one moment where you categorize it as a “character flaw”, that means he has zero character? Interesting.

The dude shows up in the playoffs, can’t say the same about most of the team…especially their goaltending and defense. Unless you expect him to block all the shots and make all the saves.

 

[Video Nasty]

I recently watched a game where a returning Sam Gagner potted two goals to draw the game to within one goal, and in the last 5 minutes of the game McDavid just wilted away and they eventually lost with the goalie pulled.

Is that not a character flaw, or just "team depth sucks"?

Guys, he recently watched a game. All of you out there who have watched most, if not all, of McDavid’s career, have nothing on this one.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

A complete lack of heart, guts, and leadership?

At this rate McDavid will go down as the Dan Marino of hockey: a dominant offensive player who never got it done when it mattered.

He has been spectacular when it matters lmfao

 

[Amazinmets73]

He's likely playing injured and is also past peak scoring age for a forward.

 

[Bood12]

The Oilers would have probably won the Cup last year with a bit more puck luck against the Knights so how did they fall so fast

 

[FlameChampion]

Hes hurt. He probably shouldnt be playing.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

The Oilers would have probably won the Cup last year with a bit more puck luck against the Knights so how did they fall so fast

We must have watched a different series

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Ok so again, show us where he “disappeared” because as far as I’m concerned, scoring a “couple of goals” isn’t disappearing.

His entire 2020-2021 campaign was basically a no show, and he struggled in elimination games early in his career.

The last two seasons have been fantastic, however you have to admit finishing the playoffs with a -1 means something needs to change.

When Crosby had 8 points in 6 games against the flyers in 2011 nobody was patting him on the back, we were critical. The system had strayed away from its winning ways and Crosby shared in the blame.

 

[Bobby9]

No, winning requires depth, solid defense and goaltending…all of which the oilers do not have. Blaming it on one player for his “mentality” is again, so lazy. The guy performs just fine in the playoffs…pretty sure that shows his leadership and mentality of wanting to win.

Okay, so he has never led his team to anything. Thank you

 

[ManByng]

RNH, Hyman and Kane are their top 6. Compare their forward group to Canucks and you will notice why Canucks are the highest scoring team in the league with 46 goals now. They have their Pettersson and Miller to McDavid and Drai but then the rest of Oilers falls short. Canucks have 2 lethal snipers aside from their 2 best forwards in Kuzmenko and Boeser who are young and proven. Then they have speedy Mikheyev, and young Digeseuppe which brings grit. Then you go down further into the lineup and still have Garland who had 50 to 60 points per year during the past 3 or 4 years playing and beauvillier who is a streaky goal scorer that can play in top 6 in their bottom 6. Then there is Pius Suter and Lafferty good for 10 to 15 goals, Hoglander who has improved and has skills to eventually be a top 6 forward in the future. Add good PKers in Blueger, Joshua, Aman who is not playing right now. Then dig deeper and you still have Podkolzin and Bains in the farm who are NHL ready imo.

So you’re giving the poo poo to Nuge but singing the praises of Connor Garland????

 

[AvroArrow]

Lol no its not man. Trust me I'm from Toronto

Dudes really having an argument about whether or not Newmarket is considered the GTA

 

[Dust]

McDavid has been unable to score goals at even-strength, against good teams, for a very long time now. In the last 20 games of the last regular season, the playoffs last season, and so far this season, he basically only scores on the PP and against very weak teams. He can't score otherwise.

I guess everyone else can't score either since he's 2nd in Even-strength goals since he's entered the league.