What happens to Timo Meier now? (10M Qualifying Offer)

[NHL Fanatik]

He was absolutely a disappointment in the playoffs.

Theres more to a series than scoring and he provided what no other Devil did away from the puck or has since prime Zubrus

One twelve game sample with a broken nose for half of it isnt 'absolutely a disappointment'

 

[Forge]

Timo was coming off of a 66 point/78 game season when he signed the contract. His actual salary was only $14M over three years. The big QO can be viewed simply as giving Timo a way to get to UFA market one year earlier since it was unlikely anyone would exercise it. Not a bad deal for having a smaller compensation package for the first three years.

Honestly, if I was Timo, I am not giving any sort of discount to the Devils. With the weak UFA market, he can force a premium from the Devils or if the Devils are silly, earn $10M on a QO (damn expensive rental).

Hang tough, Timo! Make your money!

If they offer something he believes is fair and he actually wants to stay in jersey long term (these kind of things are always hard to know for sure on), I think that they'll come to an agreement. I don't think the intent on either side is to play hardball with one another and shooting for the moon doesn't always yield the best result (see Klingberg, John)

 

[Forge]

He was absolutely a disappointment in the playoffs.

I was disappointed with the end production, I was not disappointed with his play.

You can get some variance in 9 to 10 game stretches. In Timo's first 9 games this year, he had 2 assists. That's it. Didn't score his first goal until game 10. Then he ripped off 7 in 7. It happens and everyone should accept that small sample sizes yield some wonky results in actual production

 

[Sendhelplease]

He's not worth 9+, even 8+ is a stretch. NJD should let other teams negotiate with him and trade him to whatever team reaches a deal.

This is an absurd statement. He is a 30-40 goal scoring powerforward. That type of player is coveted and easily worth 8+ or even 9 a year. I am sorry to the devils fans who now have to put up with the same qualifying offer hysteria sharks fans had to tolerate with Timo Meier. He will sign there long term and will be worth it.

 

[StreetHawk]

My hope has been 8.25 - 8.5. But I also wouldn't remotely be shocked if it's 9. With Laine at 8.7 and Barzal at 9.1, I definitely don't think its wrong of Timo to shoot for that

2015 draft pick with a late birthday. turns 27 later this year. A long term deal this year is his last big contract. So, going to be max term to get him to 34 when it expires. Given NHL contract lengths and the age at which players hit UFA, the top guys will target the maximum term.

 

[Guffman]

If they offer something he believes is fair and he actually wants to stay in jersey long term (these kind of things are always hard to know for sure on), I think that they'll come to an agreement. I don't think the intent on either side is to play hardball with one another and shooting for the moon doesn't always yield the best result (see Klingberg, John)

Timo does have some leverage here so I don’t expect a value deal for the Devils. I do think they’ll agree to something long-term.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I think there are a lot of teams that would spend a lot of money to get Timo Meier signed to their team as a top six power forward.

There are a lot of teams that would want Timo Meier. There are few teams that have the cap space for him.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

His play was exactly what any Devil fan should want, he didn't get the results anyone wanted but he played his ass off every night, hit everyone and caused chaos every time he was on the ice, especially in round 1.
Devils need more players like Timo, not less.

He'll sign in NJ, as he was brought in to be a part of the core. If he's not interested in signing long term in NJ they'll qualify him and if they need to peddle him as a rental next deadline they will, but I don't think it'll that way, I fully expect him to sign an 8 year extension, hopefully under 9 per

 

[TheBeard]

He had a greater impact than Bratt did. Jesper should be the one on the block.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

He had a greater impact than Bratt did. Jesper should be the one on the block.

Why should either be on the block?

 

[Gurglesons]

There are a lot of teams that would want Timo Meier. There are few teams that have the cap space for him.

Really easy to make that cap space if they want. Not sure why people want to pretend teams aren’t in for Meier when multiple teams were in the trade market for him.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Why should either be on the block?

why shouldn't one of them be on the block?

 

[Lou Bloom]

why shouldn't one of them be on the block?

Because they're both high end forwards that fit the Devils' timeline and the Devils have the cap space to afford them both. What contending team is willingly trading away top line wingers in their prime?

 

[TheBeard]

Why should either be on the block?

Can they afford to sign both long-term??

Because they're both high end forwards that fit the Devils' timeline and the Devils have the cap space to afford them both. What contending team is willingly trading away top line wingers in their prime?

I mean Vegas was literally giving them away.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Its not just the cap increase, its that MORE teams can bid. The % of the cap and cap hit is not what is at play. Its the bidders.

I know. But that isn’t gonna bring it up nearly as much as you’re suggesting. Unless he has a crazy season he’s not getting anything over 10M let alone 11-13. Gaudreau didn’t even get over 10M with multiple bidders after a 40 goal 115 point season.

 

[NHL Fanatik]

Timo was coming off of a 66 point/78 game season when he signed the contract. His actual salary was only $14M over three years. The big QO can be viewed simply as giving Timo a way to get to UFA market one year earlier since it was unlikely anyone would exercise it. Not a bad deal for having a smaller compensation package for the first three years.

Honestly, if I was Timo, I am not giving any sort of discount to the Devils. With the weak UFA market, he can force a premium from the Devils or if the Devils are silly, earn $10M on a QO (damn expensive rental).

Hang tough, Timo! Make your money!

If every player's desire was to rake teams over for the most they can get, then a lot more teams would have major cap issues

But that isnt reality; Meier has four countrymen (of the 11 in the league) in New Jersey and even went as far as to hangout with eight Devils (while he was a Shark) in Mexico on vacation, he's on record as loving the area, and knows he can compete with a great upcoming roster

Why would he throw all that away just for extra cash? Moet of these guys wont spend that money in their lifetime and a large chunk will be left for their kids. Its why most players choose family, friends, and comfort over the extra mil or so a year

 

[FlameChampion]

Provided he likes NJ (which he probably does). Probably just ends up signing a 8 year - 8.5mil deal or something to that effect.

 

[Forge]

Can they afford to sign both long-term??

Yes, but the consequence may be that you're not locking up mercer long term right away. May have to bridge him at a lower amount and then give him a bigger deal after year five which could be more costly. If they want to sign him for 7 or 8 years after next year, I think that's going to be more expensive than people think, and that's going to be hard to afford in 24-25 without a sizeable jump in cap

 

[Lou Bloom]

Can they afford to sign both long-term??


I mean Vegas was literally giving them away.

They only traded away a 33 year old Pacioretty for cap reasons. Devils have $34M in cap space with the only expensive must signs being Bratt and Meier. Everyone else (McLeod, Bastian, Bahl) will be cheap RFAs and the only other positions they need to fill will be the bottom 6 and maybe a depth defenseman.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Timo is extending. Not worried about it in the slightest.

 

[Lou Bloom]

Yes, but the consequence may be that you're not locking up mercer long term right away. May have to bridge him at a lower amount and then give him a bigger deal after year five which could be more costly. If they want to sign him for 7 or 8 years after next year, I think that's going to be more expensive than people think, and that's going to be hard to afford in 24-25 without a sizeable jump in cap

Tampa was in a much worse cap position and managed to afford a Nick Paul extension and sign all their pivotal RFAs in Sergachev, Cernak and Cirelli long term. I'm not overly concerned about the Devils' ability to re-sign all their core talent.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Shakir Mukhamadullin is not a 1st round pick in a future draft

The Devils did not give up two 1st round picks until they make an ECF, which is unlikely next year given the turnover of roster talent

Nothings hard to understand when you choose to not muddle things

you dont know that for certain. I assume you get every pick right? Mukhamadullin is a 1st no matter how you view it.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Because they're both high end forwards that fit the Devils' timeline and the Devils have the cap space to afford them both. What contending team is willingly trading away top line wingers in their prime?

one that needs goaltending, grit and defense

 

[TheBeard]

They only traded away a 33 year old Pacioretty for cap reasons. Devils have $34M in cap space with the only expensive must signs being Bratt and Meier. Everyone else (McLeod, Bastian, Bahl) will be cheap RFAs and the only other positions they need to fill will be the bottom 6 and maybe a depth defenseman.

Sure, but can you afford to lock these guys up long term when you still have to consider who else will need deals 3-4 years down the road?

 

[Jan Ludvig]

Blackhawks should give him one year at 10mil or so, then trade him at 50% retained at the TDL. They have the money to overpay.

Except he’s not a UFA, so there’s that…