What happens to Timo Meier now? (10M Qualifying Offer)

[Lou Bloom]

one that needs goaltending, grit and defense

The same team that had the 3rd best record in the league while being one of the youngest? They'll go into the year with Schmid/Vanecek in goal, they're defense is pretty much locked up with Hamilton, Marino, Siegenthaler, Hughes, Bahl and Nemec. Their top 6 would be locked up with Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Meier, Mercer and Palat. The only area I expect to see some changes to the team is the bottom 6 and potentially a depth defenseman to hold the fort in case Nemec needs a little more time in the AHL.

 

[StreetHawk]

Sure, but can you afford to lock these guys up long term when you still have to consider who else will need deals 3-4 years down the road?

Then we will see how the nhl is cap wise. They went with the plan, along with the PA to pay the full price for the balance of the 2020 Covid year and the shortened season in 2021. Cap hasn’t moved much since then. Nfl and nba, as a comparison are 13-14% increase in their cap already from the Covid year. I don’t recall what the nba did, but nfl slashed their cap in 2021 season.

Come 24-25, nhl should, if they have been keeping pace with the nba/nfl in their cap increases be see a big bump. Should be going from $81.5 mill in 19-20 to $90 mill which would represent around a 10% increase from the year Covid hit. But we have to wait and see about that.

 

[Lou Bloom]

Sure, but can you afford to lock these guys up long term when you still have to consider who else will need deals 3-4 years down the road?

Yes, the Devils are in a great spot cap wise to keep all their core talent.

 

[dirtydanglez]

The same team that had the 3rd best record in the league while being one of the youngest? They'll go into the year with Schmid/Vanecek in goal, they're defense is pretty much locked up with Hamilton, Marino, Siegenthaler, Hughes, Bahl and Nemec. Their top 6 would be locked up with Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Meier, Mercer and Palat. The only area I expect to see some changes to the team is the bottom 6 and potentially a depth defenseman to hold the fort in case Nemec needs a little more time in the AHL.

yea they are an outstanding regular season team.

they need better goaltending, grit and defense for the post season.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

why shouldn't one of them be on the block?

Because we just finished 3rd in the NHL and had a successful first playoff run with this core? We have the space to sign them both.

Has everyone forgotten that without Bratt we probably lose game 3 vs the Rangers and subsequently lose the series? Just winning that series made this a successful year.

 

[Lou Bloom]

yea they are an outstanding regular season team.

they need better goaltending, grit and defense for the post season.

What was gritty about last year's Avalanche team? How about their goaltending situation? There's plenty of ways to win in the playoffs, it's not a completely different game where only the grittiest teams win the cup.

 

[Forge]

Tampa was in a much worse cap position and managed to afford a Nick Paul extension and sign all their pivotal RFAs in Sergachev, Cernak and Cirelli long term. I'm not overly concerned about the Devils' ability to re-sign all their core talent.

I'm not concerned about it either. I was indicating that it may merely change the timing of certain future contracts

 

[dirtydanglez]

What was gritty about last year's Avalanche team? How about their goaltending situation? There's plenty of ways to win in the playoffs, it's not a completely different game where only the grittiest teams win the cup.

most of their forwards and manson and ej on the back end.

 

[Lou Bloom]

most of their forwards and manson and ej on the back end.

The Predators, Blues and Lightning are all much "gritter" teams than last year's Avalanche. The reason they won the cup is because they're speed and skill level is much better than those other teams.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Really easy to make that cap space if they want. Not sure why people want to pretend teams aren’t in for Meier when multiple teams were in the trade market for him.

It isn't that easy to make cap space.

Some of those teams probably couldn't afford to keep him long term either, which could be why they weren't offering as much as New Jersey. There just aren't many teams with cap space.

 

[dirtydanglez]

The Predators, Blues and Lightning are all much "gritter" teams than last year's Avalanche. The reason they won the cup is because they're speed and skill level is much better than those other teams.

blues maybe but not he other two. it's a combo of all traits with a bit of luck that wins it. right now nj has speed and skill but not the grit.

 

[Gurglesons]

It isn't that easy to make cap space.

Some of those teams probably couldn't afford to keep him long term either, which could be why they weren't offering as much as New Jersey. There just aren't many teams with cap space.

It is for a player of Meier’s caliber.

 

[Luck 6]

I’m a bit surprised so many NJD fans want to re-sign him to a long term deal in the 8 or 9 mil range. There is no doubt he’s a good player, but it’s possible he may not be the best fit with them. Rather than turn this into a boat anchor of a contract, I’d be seeing if a short term deal can be reached for a year or two, even if that brings him straight to UFA. There’s just too much risk, given the low offensive output, to pay him like a legit star winger right now.

 

[centipede2233]

I’m a bit surprised so many NJD fans want to re-sign him to a long term deal in the 8 or 9 mil range. There is no doubt he’s a good player, but it’s possible he may not be the best fit with them. Rather than turn this into a boat anchor of a contract, I’d be seeing if a short term deal can be reached for a year or two, even if that brings him straight to UFA. There’s just too much risk, given the low offensive output, to pay him like a legit star winger right now.

Totally agree. Meier had a pretty underwelming playoffs and is not a $9 million player. Stanley cup champions don’t have $9 million boat anchor contracts. If I’m NJ I play hardball and stick to $8 million per as rumoured. If he wants to see if he can get better (which I don’t think he will on a long term deal) so be it.

 

[Icebreakers]

I could see a scenario where he just settles for his $10M QO and bets on himself for one year. There’s risk that his playoff performance is truly indicative of how he will perform in a full season with the Devils, but there’s also the possibility the playoffs were an aberration and he breaks out, thus giving him much more leverage and options going into ufa.

I’ll be mildly surprised if he does sign long term before taking his QO

I think it's the opposite. I'd be very surprised if he went with the QO.

Risking injury in his prime versus signing a 8 year deal for over 64+ million dollars.

Let's say he signs for 8x8.5.

Versus if he signs for 10m and has a great year, realistically he would get at most 9.5.

In the long run the difference is like less than 8 million.

If he has a career altering injury then he's throwing away life security. It can happen to anyone at his age. Look at Landeskog at only 30.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Theres more to a series than scoring and he provided what no other Devil did away from the puck or has since prime Zubrus

One twelve game sample with a broken nose for half of it isnt 'absolutely a disappointment'

Cool, he was still a disappointment in those 12 games. He was suppose to be a star 1st liner, so yea, he was brought in to provide offense, esp playing with star players like Hishier and Hughes as his center.

 

[Forge]

Meier had a pretty underwelming playoffs and is not a $9 million player.

The definition of a 9 million dollar player is already expanding and it's going to continue to grow. People are going to have to adjust their definition in the coming years

 

[SKNJD9]

8x8.5 structure will be the thing that drags it out a bit, it will get done.

 

[NHL Fanatik]

Cool, he was still a disappointment in those 12 games. He was suppose to be a star 1st liner, so yea, he was brought in to provide offense, esp playing with star players like Hishier and Hughes as his center.

Damn so I guess the Rangers are moving on from Panarin and Zibanejad then huh? I mean, they were disappointments right?

Although lucky for NJ Meier wont make 11.65m

 

[ManofSteel55]

It is for a player of Meier’s caliber.

No it isn't. No cap space is no cap space.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Damn so I guess the Rangers are moving on from Panarin and Zibanejad then huh? I mean, they were disappointments right?

Although lucky for NJ Meier wont make 11.65m

Yup they were disappointing, difference is I can admit it while you have some fantasy that Meier played well lmao.

And yea, i sure hope a 55 point scorer isnt making 11M. Anything over 7.5M will be hilarious.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

one that needs goaltending, grit and defense

the Devils allowed the 8th fewest goals and the 5th fewest shots, and have a 22 year old franchise goalie in the making.

thank you for your concern though!

 

[Gurglesons]

No it isn't. No cap space is no cap space.

Guess we will just wait and see.

 

[dirtydanglez]

the Devils allowed the 8th fewest goals and the 5th fewest shots, and have a 22 year old franchise goalie in the making.

thank you for your concern though!

regular season or playoffs?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I’m a bit surprised so many NJD fans want to re-sign him to a long term deal in the 8 or 9 mil range. There is no doubt he’s a good player, but it’s possible he may not be the best fit with them. Rather than turn this into a boat anchor of a contract, I’d be seeing if a short term deal can be reached for a year or two, even if that brings him straight to UFA. There’s just too much risk, given the low offensive output, to pay him like a legit star winger right now.

based on what, exactly....?

regular season or playoffs?

they won a round in this core's first foray into the playoffs. The season was successful no matter what you want

keep going back and liking 6 month old posts, though. Real loser shit.