Confirmed with Link: Wes Clark leaves the Leafs for promotion with the Penguins

[Fogelhund]

We didn't draft Hyman though.

THe post didn't claim he was. Maybe read it again.

 

[Stephen]

We didn't draft Hyman though.

Someone still had to put eyes on him and trade for him.

 

[Al14]

I really hope Pelley and Shanahan holds a meeting with Pridham to question his loyalty to our Leafs and MLSE. If he's wanting out, then start looking for his replacement.

Clark is certainly replaceable, however Pridham might be a more difficult person to replace.

 

[AcerComputer]

Someone still had to put eyes on him and trade for him.

The trade was offered by FLA to Dubas, while he was Interim GM. It fell in his lap. Hyman was not going to sign with FLA, and likely indicated he was going to TOR.

 

[Stephen]

Don't be surprised if Pridham is the next to leave. Dubas gave himself the GM title after searching candidates but I think the plan is still him remaining as President with someone else taking over the GM duties... and Pridham might just be that guy. He loves his guys and Pridham was very close to him.

If these guys think they are better served professionally as Dubas guys and not Leafs guys, they can leave. It’s not like we are walking away from a group that brought us overwhelming success.

 

[AcerComputer]

Chalk it up to who gives a sh$t, he can be easily replaced.

Our drafts under the previous admin were horrible

 

[thewave]

Don't be surprised if Pridham is the next to leave. Dubas gave himself the GM title after searching candidates but I think the plan is still him remaining as President with someone else taking over the GM duties... and Pridham might just be that guy. He loves his guys and Pridham was very close to him.

He hired an eco system that he can manage his little schemes from. They just overpay each other and talk like politicians. Trust the plan. You need to trust the process. Not very long ago people would have said you cant snow the snowman and fired these cons.

 

[Antropovsky]

Shanahan really paying the price for giving Dubas his chance.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Did you guys see the video Wes tweeted?

 

[Menzinger]

The trade was offered by FLA to Dubas, while he was Interim GM. It fell in his lap. Hyman was not going to sign with FLA, and likely indicated he was going to TOR.

To be fair to Dubas,he had a long history with Hyman including being his 'advisor' when in college (NCAA players can't have agents).

Don't be surprised if Pridham is the next to leave. Dubas gave himself the GM title after searching candidates but I think the plan is still him remaining as President with someone else taking over the GM duties... and Pridham might just be that guy. He loves his guys and Pridham was very close to him.

Imo it's probably only a matter of time until he wants to be a GM somewhere

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Did you guys see the video Wes tweeted?

cringe

 

[SprDaVE]

Imo it's probably only a matter of time until he wants to be a GM somewhere

Yep, I agree. Maybe Treliving replaces Shanahan at the helm and gives up his spot to Pridham... that's about the only way I see Pridham staying.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

AI come on down.

I tried having ChatGPT redraft our picks but it either kept taking players that weren't available anymore, or players that were already drafted last year. I guess the available technology is not quite there yet.

 

[ULF_55]

I tried having ChatGPT redraft our picks but it either kept taking players that weren't available anymore, or players that were already drafted last year. I guess the available technology is not quite there yet.

I'm sure there are better, owned, AI's.

GIGO

 

[Stephen]

I really hope Pelley and Shanahan holds a meeting with Pridham to question his loyalty to our Leafs and MLSE. If he's wanting out, then starting looking for his replacement.

Clark is certainly replaceable, however Pridham might be a more difficult person to replace.

Pridham’s expertise is probably baked into a very elaborate spreadsheet or database with some kind of interface someone else could take over if he decides to move on. I doubt he’s taking out the abacus and crunching the numbers on scrap paper every time they talk contracts.

 

[Peasy]

Did you guys see the video Wes tweeted?

Dont think its a surprise that him and Dubas get along.

Also what grown man in a professional setting tweets "Dawg". Not once, but multiple times

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

So.. how many goals did Clark score last season?

One less in the playoffs than Matthews

 

[Americanadian]

He is in a profession where his whole career is defined by draft results. You seriously think he wasn't committed to this one? Lol

Not anymore it isn’t.

 

[Peasy]

I thought Babcock was the guy that identified Hyman first because he was playing in Michigan.

 

[Stephen]

Dont think its a surprise that him and Dubas get along.

Also what grown man in a professional setting tweets "Dawg". Not once, but multiple times

They’re young guys building tomorrow’s old boys network… cliquey, inside groups, keep each other employed, give each other huge corporate promotions, us against the world. A true corporate bromance.

Lex Fridman is also so weird.

 

[notbias]

If these guys think they are better served professionally as Dubas guys and not Leafs guys, they can leave. It’s not like we are walking away from a group that brought us overwhelming success.

It looks like there is a high likelihood that Wes Clark will be successful with his drafts, and obviously, Pridham has been successful with what he was brought in to do.

Not sure I understand the logic around the thinking that losing guys who are good at what they do is good because the players/coaches/GM/development staff/etc are not succeeding.

You don't get rid of all employees when a company has a few bad years, there are still good employees within the company most likely.

 

[darrylsittler27]

That Dubas hiring is starting to look really bad.

 

[93LEAFS]

Feels weird...this all really happened over the last week after the draft? He managed our draft then bails? lol.

scouting contracts expire shortly after the draft. If they figured out a way to pay him he was always going to go work for Dubas.

 

[Stephen]

It looks like there is a high likelihood that Wes Clark will be successful with his drafts, and obviously, Pridham has been successful with what he was brought in to do.

Not sure I understand the logic around the thinking that losing guys who are good at what they do is good because the players/coaches/GM/development staff/etc are not succeeding.

You don't get rid of all employees when a company has a few bad years, there are still good employees within the company most likely.

You can’t keep people that don’t want to be around. So best we can do is find other good people in management and scouting roles and soldier on. Always remembering that Kyle and his buddies from the Soo didn’t invent hockey, as incredible as that seems. Dubas fans can go to Pittsburgh too. That’s always an option.

 

[notbias]

You can’t keep people that don’t want to be around. So best we can do is find other good people in management and scouting roles and soldier on. Always remembering that Kyle and his buddies from the Soo didn’t invent hockey, as incredible as that seems. Dubas fans can go to Pittsburgh too. That’s always an option.

Ya, I don't care if Wes stays, I'd rather keep someone who seems to be good at their job, but there are more people who are capable out there.

It just seems weird to reference metrics that have nothing to do with the people moving on as a reason it is good that they are moving on.

Weird last couple of sentences... was just posting out how meaningless your post was and then you ramble on with more meaningless garbage.