GDT: Welcome to the Black Parade: WCQF Game 1, (1) Vegas Golden Knights vs (WC1) LA Kings @7:00

[Raccoon Jesus]

You can’t hit people in the head!

No matter how many times you are hit, it’s still a no-no in today’s sports world to hit people in the head.

I am hopeful for a fine, but don’t leave it in the leagues hands, don’t target the head.

He didn't. It definitely hit him in the head, but it's very clear Drew's target was not there. Even the most vicious opponent homers can acknowledge that.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

You can’t hit people in the head!

No matter how many times you are hit, it’s still a no-no in today’s sports world to hit people in the head.

I am hopeful for a fine, but don’t leave it in the leagues hands, don’t target the head.

He hit the shoulder first and certainly not targeting.

 

[BigKing]

Fantenberg pulled his weight. Let's stop short of saying he was good.

He was good in relation to his usual play. I'll take that and run but still hope Muzzin is back ASAP. Even then, LaDue should probably sit instead of Fantenberg. Too weak on the boards and, for a supposed offensive defenseman, his pinch all the way down to the goal line in the 3rd period in which he didn't even go for the puck or a hit was just so insanely stupid.

That's the play that led me to say he was trash last night. I expect deficiencies from him on defense--especially along the boards--but bad plays offensively on top of it are inexcusable at that stage of the game.

 

[Herby]

All he did was take a guys number and get even later?

Sorry, respect you as a poster but that’s a horrible take/excuse for a hit that should not have happened, and I guarantee you wouldn’t have this take had a Kings player been concussed by a cheap shot.

Just senseless for arguably the most important player on the team right now to throw that hit and risk a suspension. If Drew is suspended he deserves a ton of criticism, not excuses.

 

[KINGS17]

And as far as Doughty, just more stupid immature crap that a 10 year veteran of his caliber shouldn’t be doing. Yes Drew was hit a lot, and he’s going to be hit a lot the entire playoffs, it’s simply no excuse to throw a questionable hit to the head and even put this in the leagues hands for any potential discipline.

So much bs about learning experiences and being smarter but he keeps doing dumb things that hurt his team.

If the Kings were playing a top heavy team, we would expect them to do the same thing. Vegas should be all over Doughty, Kopitar, and Carter and hitting them all the time.

 

[Sol]

It'll be a fine.

I hope to sweet baby Jesus

 

[DryIslandBartender]

I hope to sweet baby Jesus

If it’s a 2 gamer, we’ll know the series is rigged.

 

[kingsboy11]

The angle we saw looked like the shoulder was the principal point of contact and that the head contact was in the follow through. It would be pretty ballsy of the DOPS to suspend Drew with no previous history in the playoffs. Yes, Carrier was going after Drew all night, but Drew gets hit every game. I don't think he would lash out like that going after Carrier's head. I thought it should've been a penalty and probably a fine, but I think any kind of suspension would be harsh and would almost certainly harm the Kings chances of advancing to the next round.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

All he did was take a guys number and get even later?

Sorry, respect you as a poster but that’s a horrible take/excuse for a hit that should not have happened, and I guarantee you wouldn’t have this take had a Kings player been concussed by a cheap shot.

Just senseless for arguably the most important player on the team right now to throw that hit and risk a suspension. If Drew is suspended he deserves a ton of criticism, not excuses.

If said Kings player was stickhandling into the middle with their head down like Eric Lindros, I think we'd call the Kings player on that, especially given the hit went right through his shoulder.

 

[Herby]

He hit the shoulder first and certainly not targeting.

True, head wasn’t the principal point of contact but he still did hit his head hard enough to concuss him. Rules in NFL and NHL were changed years ago where it doesn’t have to be a direct shot to the head to warrant a penalty or supplemental discipline. Especially in a situation where the player being hit ends up with a concussion.

I am hopeful for a fine but now we are on pins and needles because one of our best players made a poor decision in a playoff game.

Tough to see the Kings being able to win on the road without Doughty. Seriously I wonder if Stevens would consider Kopitar at D if Doughty were to be suspended. The Wings used Fedorov at D back in his prime.

 

[Sol]

If it’s a 2 gamer, we’ll know the series is rigged.

If it's anything more than a fine for me then its all I need to know about who they want to win.

Regular seasons stats already show that the league is heavily supporting Vegas with calls.

 

[Little Psycho]

 

[BigKing]

Herby-

He has to do a better job with the hit but I don't agree with the premise of not even making a hit on that play.

 

[Herby]

No way is it 2 games. I know it was 5 years ago but Keith only got 1 for that ridiculous high stick against Carter in the playoffs. No way does this warrant more.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Good.

Muzzin cant keep up with this pace.

 

[Sol]

Doughty doesn't target the head, and doesn't lead with any body part. I don't see that argument. But it was a poorly place timed hit and he didn't get all of him and carrier was puck watching. It has to be a fine.


If I was a player though. You'd bet your ass I'd be looking to put some Knights on a stretcher for the hits they were doing. No f***ing doubt.

 

[Sol]

This is how I feel, and yes I know fox is a Homer.

 

[tny760]

i don't see intent but he picked carrier's head

i think regular season, that probably gets a game or two, playoffs it's either gonna be a max fine or a single game

 

[KingsFan7824]

However the hearing goes, it goes. It's a conspiracy either way. If Doughty doesn't get suspended, it's because he's a star, and he's Hollywood. If he does get suspended, the league clearly wants Vegas to win.

 

[Herby]

Sol

And usually the teams who do that, even if it’s in retaliation of a cheap shot end up losing. Not sure how old you are, but many of us are old so we clearly remember Sean O’Donnell on Geoff Courtnall in 1998, look what happened in that game.

There may be a time and a place to “put guys on a stretcher” but it’s not in a 1-0 playoff game.

 

[Sol]

Sol

And usually the teams who do that, even if it’s in retaliation of a cheap shot end up losing. Not sure how old you are, but many of us are old so we clearly remember Sean O’Donnell on Geoff Courtnall in 1998, look what happened in that game.

There may be a time and a place to “put guys on a stretcher” but it’s not in a 1-0 playoff game.

Of course but the game is called differently now. When Is the right time to do so? Is it when you're losing or winning? Cause Vegas spent no time taking runs at puck drop and when they were winning.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Of course but the game is called differently now. When Is the right time to do so? Is it when you're losing or winning? Cause Vegas spent no time taking runs at puck drop and when they were winning.

That's my thing

Vegas had no problem running around, then diving and laughing about it (Miller). Once we started feeding them their medicine, they started crying about it (Brown on Miller, who was miraculously ok when he got back to the bench, then Marchessault of course crosschecking Brown from behind and hiding behind a ref). Now their entire team and coach can't stop talking about it.

Keep punishing them. They'll come unglued. Refs will get tired of hit and run antics soon enough, especially with diving and whining involved.

 

[Little Psycho]

Engelland going after Phaneuf was hilarious. Keep picking at them boys and they'll mentally crumble. Now they just need to score lol.

 

[Sol]

That's my thing

Vegas had no problem running around, then diving and laughing about it (Miller). Once we started feeding them their medicine, they started crying about it (Brown on Miller, who was miraculously ok when he got back to the bench, then Marchessault of course crosschecking Brown from behind and hiding behind a ref). Now their entire team and coach can't stop talking about it.

Keep punishing them. They'll come unglued. Refs will get tired of hit and run antics soon enough, especially with diving and whining involved.

That's what it is. I'm not saying respond in kind and match them. But don't lie down and take it either. What unhinged the sharks of 2014 is that the Kings weren't gonna sit around. Kings hit and threw a couple of big hits, very few hits compared to the ones the sharks were throwing.

Kings need to focus on the game but also throw a big hit when needed. Because that's what unhinges and throws the other team off completely.


Vegas is easily looking to target our players. The Kings weren't.


What do you think happens when you target one of their players ? You bet your ass the team and the coach lose their focus.


If it means so much to them to dish it and they can't take it when it's given back. Expose that and they will lose focus during the series.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Martinez had 2 more total shifts than Doughty, but 5 fewer minutes of ice time. Fantenberg had 2 fewer shifts, but about 8.5 fewer minutes.