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GDT: Welcome to the Black Parade: WCQF Game 1, (1) Vegas Golden Knights vs (WC1) LA Kings @7:00

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Herby said:
Vegas is only -155 for game 2. Seems way to low unless they really don’t think he will be suspended. Could be a somewhat decent sign.
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That is really low, I agree.

They seemed to put a lot of stock in the adrenaline of VGK's first home playoff game ever.

I like our chances if we have close to our full ensemble. Even while chasing the whole game, with the adrenaline on their side, major injuries on ours, and a few bounces going their way (ugh, empty net, and Kopi passing up prime shots), it was simply a 1-0 victory.
 
Herby said:
Vegas is only -155 for game 2. Seems way to low unless they really don’t think he will be suspended. Could be a somewhat decent sign.
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online odds on lak went up considerably after the news about dd hearing came out today and are still rising. expressed in implied probabilities (without vig) they stand like this, at the moment:

- to win game 2: vgk 59%, lak 41%

- to win the series (best of 7): vgk 70%, lak 30%
 
mrkolice said:
online odds on lak went up considerably after the news about dd hearing came out today and are still rising. expressed in implied probabilities (without vig) they stand like this, at the moment:

- to win game 2: vgk 59%, lak 41%

- to win the series (best of 7): vgk 70%, lak 30%
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If Doughty and Muzzin were to miss game 2 I really don't see how the Kings could win. It would have to be some crazy 6-5 or 5-4 type game. Just don't see any way the Knights don't score atleast 3 goals with a defense of Phaneuf/Martinez/Folin/LaDue/Gravel/Fantenberg, Quick would have to have an alltime great performance.
 
It was a pretty tight game overall. There wasn't a whole lot of scoring chances for either team.

Like I said before the game, the Kings have to match Vegas's energy level. They didn't do that, and that's why the Knights carried the majority of the play, but it wasn't by a massive margin or anything.

I disagree with some of what I'm reading about Kopitar. Aside from Doughty and Quick, I thought Anze was our best player. It's not a coincidence that our best scoring chances came with him on the ice.
 
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Herby said:
If Doughty and Muzzin were to miss game 2 I really don't see how the Kings could win. It would have to be some crazy 6-5 or 5-4 type game. Just don't see any way the Knights don't score atleast 3 goals with a defense of Phaneuf/Martinez/Folin/LaDue/Gravel/Fantenberg, Quick would have to have an alltime great performance.
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exactly. what surprised me here even more is the discrepancy on how the market values lak chances to win the series or game 2, as if lak is still an underdog even if they win game 2. figure that :)
 
KINGS17 said:
I don't understand Kopitar at all sometimes. Twice last night he was in the slot on his forehand with some traffic around Fleury, and twice he failed to even get a shot off. He needs to quit worrying about making the perfect play or getting his teammates "involved" and shoot the damn puck. The goalie interference penalty on Brown was a direct result of Kopitar screwing around and not shooting the puck when Brown was screening Fleury.
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It was frustrating that he didn't get a shot on those, but many times through out his career he's scored goals by out waiting the goaltender. I don't have a problem with it. I don't think his play selection decreased the odds of him scoring there.

The goaltender interference on Brown had nothing to do with Kopitar. Brown just fell over.
 
johnjm22 said:
It was frustrating that he didn't get a shot on those, but many times through out his career he's scored goals by out waiting the goaltender. I don't have a problem with it. I don't think his play selection decreased the odds of him scoring there.

The goaltender interference on Brown had nothing to do with Kopitar. Brown just fell over.
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Yeah, on both of those plays, Kopitar froze the entire rink and had Fleury dead to rights. Must have been a prescout or something he saw, but that will be in their heads for the rest of the series. Takes advantage of the aggressiveness of the VGK defense and MAF--on both opportunities Kopi could have shot but had a d-man ready to flamingo in front of it, so he just calmly pulled backhand and everyone couldn't do a thing but watch. The 2nd one was oh so close too, but unfortunately Pearson was doing the right thing too :P

Was a much closer game than I expected from all angles.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Yeah, on both of those plays, Kopitar froze the entire rink and had Fleury dead to rights. Must have been a prescout or something he saw, but that will be in their heads for the rest of the series. Takes advantage of the aggressiveness of the VGK defense and MAF--on both opportunities Kopi could have shot but had a d-man ready to flamingo in front of it, so he just calmly pulled backhand and everyone couldn't do a thing but watch. The 2nd one was oh so close too, but unfortunately Pearson was doing the right thing too :P

Was a much closer game than I expected from all angles.
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He did? I didn't see the puck in the net. He should have shot on both of those occasions. He had Brown in front screening Fleury on the first one and when Kopitar went to his backhand Brown couldn't tripped over Fleury because the entire scrum moved with Kopitar.
 
KINGS17 said:
He did? I didn't see the puck in the net. He should have shot on both of those occasions. He had Brown in front screening Fleury on the first one and when Kopitar went to his backhand Brown couldn't tripped over Fleury because the entire scrum moved with Kopitar.
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"Because Kopitar didn't shoot it Brown took a penalty" is one of the hot-takiest "blame kopitar" things I've ever seen.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
"Because Kopitar didn't shoot it Brown took a penalty" is one of the hot-takiest "blame kopitar" things I've ever seen.
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Kopitar made a mistake in not shooting the puck, accept it. Brown was in perfect position screening the goaltender and Kopitar got cute and didn't pull the trigger, and eventually failed to even get a shot off.

It was not a good play on Kopitar's part. I'm not the only one who evaluated the play in this way. Go back and look at all the WTFs people posted when he didn't shoot.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Kopitar made a mistake in not shooting the puck, accept it. Brown was in perfect position screening the goaltender and Kopitar got cute and didn't pull the trigger, and eventually failed to even get a shot off.

It was not a good play on Kopitar's part.
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And I'm just saying when you're microanalyzing Kopitar's game down to "he didn't shoot there so we went shorthanded" your anti-Kopitar tick is right back on display.

I agree he should have taken the first shot in that sequence but the leap in logic it takes to fault him to such a degree for making a move that froze everyone for a second means you'll never find good in his game.

Again, I'm wondering if it's some sort of prescout or something he saw, because to try that twice when he had a clear as day look from the slot isn't typical, though you're presenting it as if we're in 2017 again and Kopitar is hesitant to take control. We're literally one game removed from a 92 point season and you already can't wait to blame him for something.
 
AlphaBravo said:
Time to reunite the 70s line. Move Pearson with Carter. Make the third line Kempe/Reider/Brodzinski. Clifford/Mitchel/Lewis for the fourth line. Do it Stevens. Just a few minor swaps.
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yeah a different look of some sort could be nice. That line later in the game with Kempe-Iafallo...Mitchell? was speedy and irritating.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
And I'm just saying when you're microanalyzing Kopitar's game down to "he didn't shoot there so we went shorthanded" your anti-Kopitar tick is right back on display.

I agree he should have taken the first shot in that sequence but the leap in logic it takes to fault him to such a degree for making a move that froze everyone for a second means you'll never find good in his game.
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Baloney. Kopitar made a bad play in not shooting the puck. I have praised him all season when he has made great plays. I think your bias is showing through when you say he had Fleury dead to rights. If he had beaten Fleury so badly, why didn't the puck end up in the net? I see now you are agreeing he should have shot the puck, as did almost the entire board.

Get over yourself. You don't have to leap to Kopitar's defense every time someone criticizes him for a bad play.
 
AlphaBravo said:
Time to reunite the 70s line. Move Pearson with Carter. Make the third line Kempe/Reider/Brodzinski. Clifford/Mitchel/Lewis for the fourth line. Do it Stevens. Just a few minor swaps.
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We should rename them the Casper line :sarcasm:
 
Reaper45 said:
That Brown penalty for goaltender interference is one of the worst I've ever seen. Incidental contact at it's best.
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I didn't agree with the call, but Kopitar should have shot the puck in any case. Had he done so, there is no incidental contact, but more than that shooting it with the screen there was the right play to make.
 
AlphaBravo said:
Time to reunite the 70s line. Move Pearson with Carter. Make the third line Kempe/Reider/Brodzinski. Clifford/Mitchel/Lewis for the fourth line. Do it Stevens. Just a few minor swaps.
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Thompson was something like 5/5 at the dot last night, one of the few who weren't putrid, he shouldn't be the one sitting, imo. A Kempe/Amadio/Rieder 3rd line and a Clifford/Thompson/Lewis mixup would be cool, with the 70's line back together. Hopefully Iafallo gets going here
 
KingTrouty said:
Thompson was something like 5/5 at the dot last night, one of the few who weren't putrid, he shouldn't be the one sitting, imo. A Kempe/Amadio/Rieder 3rd line and a Clifford/Thompson/Lewis mixup would be cool, with the 70's line back together. Hopefully Iafallo gets going here
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Amadio is not very strong physically. Considering how game 1 went, I wouldn't feel comfortable with him in the lineup. I agree that Thompson was strong on the dot, but Brodzinkski has a better shot and could do more damage offensively with Kempe and Reider. I am okay with moving Thompson to the fourth line instead of having Mitchel there.
 
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Reaper45 said:
That Brown penalty for goaltender interference is one of the worst I've ever seen. Incidental contact at it's best.
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Really? It was I think one of those calls you have to make or you risk having that game get truly out of control, all night it was on the edge, scrum here, scrum there, you let that go, and those scrums turn into something else,

Didn't like it at the time, but looking back, it was the right call.
 
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