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WCSF: Vegas Golden Knights (P1) vs. Edmonton Oilers (P2) (VGK Lead 3-2)

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Oilers in 5 or 6. I think the winner of this series takes on Dallas eventually. And honestly, can't say who would win that match up. I think Edmonton the best team, but just have a feeling this could be Dallas' year.

Just don't think Vegas has enough to stop the Oilers though. Eichel is no McDavid. Heck, Eichel is no Draisatl.

And the impact of Evander Kane on this team, since he arrived has been significant. Even if he's not scoring, he was really the perfect compliment for this roster. And I think he takes it up a level now in the playoffs.

I just can't see Vegas winning this one.
 
HanSolo said:
Oh do tell.
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I don't think that's a particularly controversial take. Some assorted real time stats from regular season:

5 on 5 xGA: Vegas 171, Edmonton 162.

5 on 5 actual GA: Vegas 160, Edmonton 169.

5 on 5 high danger shots against: Vegas 163 (tied for 12th), Edmonton 142 (tied for 4th).

5 on 5 medium danger shots against: Vegas 505, Edmonton 525.

5 on 5 rebound chances against: Vegas 187, Oilers 161.

5 on 5 total shots against / 60: Vegas 29.89, Edmonton 29.83.

So to recap; goals against stats are basically identical, though Edmonton has less chances against and neutral observers would expect the Oilers to be scored on less. Both teams allow the same number of shots, but of the shots allowed by the Oilers less are on the inside and less lead to secondary opportunities.

I think the raw stats are pretty equal to be honest, and I'd tend to suggest that both teams are equal defensively given how small the differences are over the course of 82 games. There is perhaps an argument that the Oilers started worse and ended better, and that their stats would be better if they acquired Ekholm earlier, but I think that's too speculative. Particularly because Vegas has an equally compelling argument that missing Stone hurts their defensive numbers as well... So actually comparing the two at their theoretical capability would be a lot of work and subject to a lot of subjectivity on sample sizes and time frames.
 
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MessierII said:
Can Vegas’? They’re starting our old backup. Vegas might have the sketchiest goaltending in the entire playoffs.
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While it's likely more a result of system goaltending. Brossoit has played well. He also for what its worth has had respectable nhl career averagesbdespite not a lot of opportunities. He looked far more comfortable in net than skinner did first round.
 
WATTAGE4451 said:
While it's likely more a result of system goaltending. Brossoit has played well. He also for what its worth has had respectable nhl career averagesbdespite not a lot of opportunities. He looked far more comfortable in net than skinner did first round.
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This will be another tough series and it would certainly help if Skinner is more consistent. But he was good enough versus the Kings who have an underrated offense. A lot of the damage was done by LA's top guys who actually played very well. Kempe is a very underrated scorer. His 41 goals this year was no fluke with 35 in the year before. LA actually outscored Vegas this year.

Winnipeg on the other hand was decimated by injuries and it killed their already fairly pedestrian offense. Losing Morrissey was huge, as was no Ehlers and minimal contribution from Scheifele. So at this point it is too early to read much into the goaltending matchup from round 1.

That said I always liked LB. The timing for him was bad in Edmonton and even though he was excellent for both the Barons and the Condors he never really was put in a position to succeed with the Oilers.
 
Leafsfan74 said:
If Vegas is healthy I have been bullish on them for three years. They have 51 wins while once again dealing with injuries and people pass on them time and again?

I don't get the disrespect.

The Oilers defense is going to have to contend with a heavy down low cycle. For me, their ability to handle this or not will decide the fate of the Oilers in this series.
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That could be a problem for the Oilers but the flipside is that Vegas tends to be too aggressive at times which could lead to transition breaks the other way which is why the Oilers play well against them because that plays into their hands.

Either way, the entertainment level should be off the charts. Two teams that just let it loose, will be lots of back and forth action.
 
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Jumptheshark said:
Lots of Vegas fans are offering their tickets to oiler fans and Facebook and other places. Curious to know how many are legit
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Never buy from somebody you can't later sue, i.e., one of the major ticket resellers.

Probably a few tickets floating around from season ticket holders who winter in Vegas and then go back north for the summer, but wouldn't expect anything like many. Also, the casinos snarf up playoff tickets like crazy to make available to high rollers a/k/a advanced level suckers, so the legitmate tickets will be selling for an arm, leg, and left testicle.
 
I think we see Quick by game 3 or 4. Vegas didn't trade for the hall of famer to have him sitting in a hotel room for 2 months. I would start him in Game 1, Broissait is completely unproven and I just don't think he's a good enough goalie to lead a team to the cup.
 
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I think we see Quick by game 3 or 4. Vegas didn't trade for the hall of famer to have him sitting in a hotel room for 2 months. I would start him in Game 1, Broissait is completely unproven and I just don't think he's a good enough goalie to lead a team to the cup.
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That would be fine by us. Quick only managed a .904 last year against the Oilers in the playoffs.
 
SeanMoneyHands said:
I think we see Quick by game 3 or 4. Vegas didn't trade for the hall of famer to have him sitting in a hotel room for 2 months. I would start him in Game 1, Broissait is completely unproven and I just don't think he's a good enough goalie to lead a team to the cup.
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Quick is 3rd on the depth chart. If Brossoit falters Hill will get the net. Quick is terrible and thankfully Cassidy fully realizes that.
 
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SeanMoneyHands said:
I think we see Quick by game 3 or 4. Vegas didn't trade for the hall of famer to have him sitting in a hotel room for 2 months. I would start him in Game 1, Broissait is completely unproven and I just don't think he's a good enough goalie to lead a team to the cup.
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The backup is Aiden Hill. Vegas didn't acquire Quick for the playoffs, but as a bandaid while all of Thompson, Hill and Broissoit were injured. Quick filled the role admirably for a few games, but then fell apart quite spectacularly. Fortunately, Broissoit had healed up by then and thereafter Quick rode the pine until Hill came back. So the odds are low that Quick will make an appearance unless there are more injuries, although admittedly he can still be really good for a game or two when he is fully rested as he is now so there is an off-chance of a surprise single appearance.
 
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Jumptheshark said:
Curious why Vegas is not a fan of the move
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Probably because it's an added complication with ticket sales. Some may have been sandalwood Friday but not Saturday.

Also the Oilers played a longer and more physical series, they may think it's an advantage for Edmonton to get the extra day of rest.

I'd also say Vegas likely isn't as used to being jerked around to the whims of the east as Edmonton is.
 
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