WCF: Dallas Stars vs Edmonton Oilers (EDM Leads 3-2)

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Who y'all got?!
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Dallas Stars (1C) vs. Edmonton Oilers (2P)​

Western Conference Final

Game 1: Oilers at Stars -- May 23, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 2: Oilers at Stars -- May 25, 8 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 3: Stars at Oilers -- May 27, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 4: Stars at Oilers -- May 29, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 5: Oilers at Stars -- May 31, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 6: Stars at Oilers -- June 2, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 7: Oilers at Stars -- June 4, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ if necessary ​

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[EdmFlyersfan]

I dunno. That might be a stereotype. I don't think they are really playing run and gun. They look like a team to me that is trying to insulate their goalie the best they can.

They go on these stretches from time to time where they barely give up chances but the moment one of those chances goes in, it's like they unravel in a really alarming way, particularly when nursing a lead.

Their forwards including McDrai have horrible coverage, and have cost them big goals against.

 

[Shane Diesel]

I'm actually surprised/impressed with how well the oilers have played this series. I felt they are completely mismatched against Dallas and they have shown some fight even won a game.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20232024&game=30320

They've played Dallas well based on the underlying possession numbers. The Oilers just have holes on defense and goaltending that are extremely difficult to overcome.

 

[Zerotonine]

Could have been a much worse loss on the scoreboard if he was as bad as some of u say. He made 4 or 5 huge saves including a breakaway immediately after the stars tied the game. He's not why you lost.

Look at the saves otteninger is making. Should of easily been 4-0 end of 1.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Their forwards including McDrai have horrible coverage, and have cost them big goals against.

Then explain the first two games of the series. Were you watching?

 

[Dr Pepper]

If Oilers didn't hit the goalpost few times in games 1 and 3, they would lead the series.

Game of inches.

Hey, no argument here. Series could still go either way.

 

[thefutures]

Look at the saves otteninger is making. Should of easily been 4-0 end of 1.

Difference is stars didn't stop playing for extended stretches

 

[Artemi Panarin]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795292928430219699

While I do like the content, there is only one breadman in the league and everybody knows that pal.

 

[Coffey]

Difference is stars didn't stop playing for extended stretches

Well 1st period was all Oil, 2nd period was all Stars, 3rd period was pretty even.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

Look at the saves otteninger is making. Should of easily been 4-0 end of 1.

Don't worry, that lead wouldn't have been safe either.

 

[eartotheground]

If Oilers didn't hit the goalpost few times in games 1 and 3, they would lead the series.

Game of inches.

like max v said the other day, 'if my mom had balls she'd be my dad.' ifs are always ifs.

the one thing i'd say is that an OT post if is pretty much the biggest if. instantly ends the game with the losing team having no chance to alter its approach for the duration to recover. so the 2 posts jrob hit in game one OT loom pretty large here. it's just not the same as hitting a post in the second period or even midway through the third.

 

[Czechboy]

I am curious what happened to the physical side. Nurses best attributes were his athleticism and physical presence. He doesn’t seem to be a physical force anymore.

He doesn’t hit, he doesn’t fight. So what does he do?

Again, I'm a fan and supporter.

To answer your question.. nothing, he's been awful.

I could blame Ceci or VD is neither would be in a Top 4 for Dallas, Nucks, Avs, Kings or the Washington generals but he really should be able to do more. He's become a liability and I never once thought he was a liability. Not even capwise as it's only 2 million over and Campbell, Brown alone take up 8 million next year.

I hope he's injured and that is why. I blame Holland though.. if we scratch him:

Ek Bouch
Kulak Ceci
Bro VD

WTF????

 

[Coffey]

Again, I'm a fan and supporter.

To answer your question.. nothing, he's been awful.

I could blame Ceci or VD is neither would be in a Top 4 for Dallas, Nucks, Avs, Kings or the Washington generals but he really should be able to do more. He's become a liability and I never once thought he was a liability. Not even capwise as it's only 2 million over and Campbell, Brown alone take up 8 million next year.

I hope he's injured and that is why. I blame Holland though.. if we scratch him:

Ek Bouch
Kulak Ceci
Bro VD

WTF????

Thanks for shoring up our defense, Holland.

This is on you.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

HF really gets a perception of a team that never changes. The Oilers are 1-2 and lost two 1 goal games and won one OT game. None of those games were they outplayed overall. But because it's the Oilers people are acting like they just got swept.

 

[Zerotonine]

Don't worry, that lead wouldn't have been safe either.

Trust me I'm well aware

Difference is stars didn't stop playing for extended stretches

Lol what u talking about edmonton controlled the 1st and the 3rd. Another back breaking goal by Skinner decides the game

 

[Artemi Panarin]

HF really gets a perception of a team that never changes. The Oilers are 1-2 and lost two 1 goal games and one one OT game. None of those games were they outplayed overall. But because it's the Oilers people are acting like they just got swept.

It couldn't have anything to do with their rich history of coiling after leads, could it Snowblind?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It couldn't have anything to do with their rich history of coiling after leads, could it Snowblind?

But that's what I mean, it's their history but the facts of this season is that the Oilers are down 2-1 and lost two 1 goal games.

 

[Czechboy]

Thanks for shoring up our defense, Holland.

This is on you.

Preseason... We all say Ceci will be a problem
During season we say we need to upgrade Ceci and get a backup
Before TDL... We need a backup and to upgrade Ceci

We get Henrique, Stecher and carrick

Round 3... Nurse, Ceci and Skinner are taking a tonne on heat.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

But that's what I mean, it's their history but the facts of this season is that the Oilers are down 2-1 and lost two 1 goal games.

They've been playing with fire all playoffs long when it comes to passiveness after gaining a lead.

I notice both Dallas and Vancouver seem to let them expend their energy early and then get them when they're tired and it theoretically works. Especially when you have Nurse and Ceci waiting for you in the other zone.

 

[Dr Pepper]

HF really gets a perception of a team that never changes. The Oilers are 1-2 and lost two 1 goal games and one one OT game. None of those games were they outplayed overall. But because it's the Oilers people are acting like they just got swept.

....two two-goal games, you mean.

Also no one's acting like the Oilers "just got swept". The best road team in the NHL just stormed back and won a big game in Edmonton's barn. Series is only half over - but there's no shame in admitting Dallas has the upper hand right now.

 

[AvroArrow]

Oilers will need their big guns to perform, they rely heavily on the top 2 guys, if they don't perform they got no chance. 1 point in 3 games for Draisaitl isn't gonna cut it. Still only a 2-1 series, 1 good game and it looks like a brand new series.

 

[Coffey]

Oilers will need their big guns to perform, they rely heavily on the top 2 guys, if they don't perform they got no chance. 1 point in 3 games for Draisaitl isn't gonna cut it. Still only a 2-1 series, 1 good game and it looks like a brand new series.

Dallas plays an extremely solid defensive game, ultimate clogging of shooting lanes, and a fantastic goalie. Hard to get a lot of offense in.
This is why they beat Avs and Knights.

And they cherry pick a lot and it works!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

....two two-goal games, you mean.

Also no one's acting like the Oilers "just got swept". The best road team in the NHL just stormed back and won a big game in Edmonton's barn. Series is only half over - but there's no shame in admitting Dallas has the upper hand right now.

Come on, empty net goals mean very little. I think both goals were from their own zone. It means very little in terms of how a team is actually playing the game.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Stuart Skinner is an absolute sieve.

It's unreal that Edmonton even got this far with that guy in the pipes

 

[Fripp]

Lots of Nurse talk. Bouchard was a statue and provided the screen on that one Robertson goal. The Oilers were pretty much standing around watching on that one.

Seriously. There's 20 players on a bench, blaming one reeks of copium. Their defense had really good stretches in the regular season and PO games here and there, but they're bad top to bottom when pressured.

 

[gretzkyoilers]

I dunno. That might be a stereotype. I don't think they are really playing run and gun. They look like a team to me that is trying to insulate their goalie the best they can.

They go on these stretches from time to time where they barely give up chances but the moment one of those chances goes in, it's like they unravel in a really alarming way, particularly when nursing a lead.

The Oilers have shown great defense and shot blocking in games 6 and 7 against the Canucks as well in certain stretches in the Stars series. The key is cleaning this up quite a bit. Focus on shot blocking, aggressive forechecking, clogging the neutral zone. The Oilers have done this and when they have they look unbeatable.