Confirmed Trade: [VGK/CGY/PHI] Noah Hanifin (75% retained), Mikhail Vorobyov to VGK; 2026 1st , 2025 cond. 3rd, Daniil Miromanov to CGY; 2024 5th to PHI

[Three On Zero]

Type to me like I'm stupid.. how is that all Hanifin got in return?

Hanifin no likey a lot of teams, Hanifin forced Conroy’s hand to where Hanifin wanted to go. Hanifin a bad bad man

 

[hangman005]

Type to me like I'm stupid.. how is that all Hanifin got in return?

 

[Three On Zero]

I fell for it

 

[McJedi]

I’m just stunned Conroy made yet another modest trade.

This one is as underwhelming as his others.

He signaled this earlier in the week when you heard the noise about Hanifin exercising his voice about where he’d like be moved. And how that affecting the market.

 

[Czechboy]

I fell for it

It really wasn't.. I looked up capfriendly after... M-NTC for 8 teams. I guess that makes sense. Feel like they got more for Tanev or I'm underestiming this Russian D by a lot.

 

[Three On Zero]

Well Vegas, all this excitement and you couldn’t even crash the HF servers. Bunch of amateurs

 

[Double Dion]

I’m just stunned Conroy made yet another modest trade.

This one is as underwhelming as his others.

He signaled this earlier in the week when you heard the noise about Hanifin exercising his voice about where he’d like be moved.

The Lindholm one was really good. The Tanev and Zadorov ones disappointing. This one is a massive failure. He should be worth more as a straight rental.

 

[Three On Zero]

It really wasn't.. I looked up capfriendly after... M-NTC for 8 teams. I guess that makes sense. Feel like they got more for Tanev or I'm underestiming this Russian D by a lot.

8 team + refusal to talk extension/sign with probably another 20 teams. He made it very clear where he was willing to go

 

[drede]

It really wasn't.. I looked up capfriendly after... M-NTC for 8 teams. I guess that makes sense. Feel like they got more for Tanev or I'm underestiming this Russian D by a lot.

No 1ST for Tanev so that's less

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Well Vegas, all this excitement and you couldn’t even crash the HF servers. Bunch of amateurs

If Vegas fans are ever able to crash anything, it will be MyFans. And it will be in UPLOADING.

 

[Lunatik]

for everyone calling this a shitty deal and saying Conroy should be fired...

Looking back at deals involving pending UFA defensemen and 1st round picks near the deadline...

• Sean Walker got a 1st, but Philly ate RyJo's contract (4m for an additional year)
• Dmitri Orlov (and Hathaway) returned a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a nothing prospect
• Hampus Lindholm returned a 1st and 2 2nds, but Anaheim ate a multi-year cap dump
• Ben Chiarot returned a 1st, 4th and nothing prospect
• David Savard returned a 1st and 3rd
• Kevin Shattenkirk returned a 1st, Conditional 2nd (they got nothing), Zach Sanford (who was a B prospect at the time) and Brad Malone (was in the AHL and a pending UFA)

So that's going back to 2017...

Maybe the problem is more unrealistic expectations than the actual return.

 

[Three On Zero]

If Vegas fans are ever able to crash anything, it will be MyFans. And it will be in UPLOADING.

Or a golf cart

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Or a golf cart

Good point.

 

[Czechboy]

No 1ST for Tanev so that's less

But can't they still trade their first this season?

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Do you honestly think the Preds have shot? How about the Flyers? I don't think there's even a remote chance. You could see me on that if they had an underperforming roster like last years Panthers or the 2012 Kings. Neither 8 seed has even a 1% chance this year.

Maybe not. Then again, I'm positive people weren't giving Columbus even a 0.01% chance in 2019 vs. Tampa Bay, and after the 1st period of Game 1 [down 3-0, in Tampa] I don't think it was even a 0.000001% chance.

Play the games, see what happens.

 

[McJedi]

The Lindholm one was really good. The Tanev and Zadorov ones disappointing. This one is a massive failure. He should be worth more as a straight rental.

The Lindholm deal was extra medium. Better than the others but not great or even very good. It was solid.

Low 1st rounder + B+ prospect.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

for everyone calling this a shitty deal and saying Conroy should be fired...

Looking back at deals involving pending UFA defensemen and 1st round picks near the deadline...

• Sean Walker got a 1st, but Philly ate RyJo's contract (4m for an additional year)
• Dmitri Orlov (and Hathaway) returned a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a nothing prospect
• Hampus Lindholm returned a 1st and 2 2nds, but Anaheim ate a multi-year cap dump
• Ben Chiarot returned a 1st, 4th and nothing prospect
• David Savard returned a 1st and 3rd
• Kevin Shattenkirk returned a 1st, Conditional 2nd (they got nothing), Zach Sanford (who was a B prospect at the time) and Brad Malone (was in the AHL and a pending UFA)

So that's going back to 2017...

Maybe the problem is more unrealistic expectations than the actual return.

Conroy's hands were tied because Hanifin was only willing to land at a couple of places.

 

[Three On Zero]

Conroy's hands were tied because Hanifin was only willing to land at a couple of places.

I feel like this is an echo chamber with how many times that needs to be repeated.

 

[Double Dion]

for everyone calling this a shitty deal and saying Conroy should be fired...

Looking back at deals involving pending UFA defensemen and 1st round picks near the deadline...

• Sean Walker got a 1st, but Philly ate RyJo's contract (4m for an additional year)
• Dmitri Orlov (and Hathaway) returned a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a nothing prospect
• Hampus Lindholm returned a 1st and 2 2nds, but Anaheim ate a multi-year cap dump
• Ben Chiarot returned a 1st, 4th and nothing prospect
• David Savard returned a 1st and 3rd
• Kevin Shattenkirk returned a 1st, Conditional 2nd (they got nothing), Zach Sanford (who was a B prospect at the time) and Brad Malone (was in the AHL and a pending UFA)

So that's going back to 2017...

Maybe the problem is more unrealistic expectations than the actual return.

Hanifin is 27 not in his 30s. Hanifin is a lot better than most of those guys. The only ones somewhat comparable are Hampus Lindholm and Dmitri Orlov.

 

[Zirakzigil]

But can't they still trade their first this season?

Might be even more ideal for the Flames. 2026 is unprotected and eventually Vegas is going to fall out of the playoffs.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

for everyone calling this a shitty deal and saying Conroy should be fired...

Looking back at deals involving pending UFA defensemen and 1st round picks near the deadline...

• Sean Walker got a 1st, but Philly ate RyJo's contract (4m for an additional year)
• Dmitri Orlov (and Hathaway) returned a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a nothing prospect
• Hampus Lindholm returned a 1st and 2 2nds, but Anaheim ate a multi-year cap dump
• Ben Chiarot returned a 1st, 4th and nothing prospect
• David Savard returned a 1st and 3rd
• Kevin Shattenkirk returned a 1st, Conditional 2nd (they got nothing), Zach Sanford (who was a B prospect at the time) and Brad Malone (was in the AHL and a pending UFA)

So that's going back to 2017...

Maybe the problem is more unrealistic expectations than the actual return.

Hanifin is much better than every one of those D not named Lindholm. Very poor comparables and only further highlights how dumb Conroy is.

 

[lakeshirts37]

I really wonder who are the 8 teams on Hanifin's no list. Lol

Vancouver
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Montreal
Ottawa
Toronto
Columbus
Arizona

 

[Czechboy]

Might be even more ideal for the Flames. 2026 is unprotected and eventually Vegas is going to fall out of the playoffs.

Not as long as they have Stone on the roster.lol

 

[Double Dion]

The Lindholm deal was extra medium. Better than the others but not great or even very good. It was solid.

Low 1st rounder + B+ prospect.

Huh? I know how much you love Ritchie. Brzustewicz is in the same bucket. He has 20 more points and plays defense. He returned a good prospect, 1st, 3rd/4th, C prospect and a cap dump. That's a damn fine return. I was happy with Brz, 1st and cap dump.

 

[Lunatik]

Conroy's hands were tied because Hanifin was only willing to land at a couple of places.

Maybe, but even then compared to previous pending UFA defensemen dealt for a 1st, this return is on par.