Confirmed Trade: [VGK/CGY/PHI] Noah Hanifin (75% retained), Mikhail Vorobyov to VGK; 2026 1st , 2025 cond. 3rd, Daniil Miromanov to CGY; 2024 5th to PHI

[Three On Zero]

Edstrom and a 1st. Army is no dummy. It will be a good return or we’ll hold onto him.

No real reason to rush on Buch, he’s a commodity you can sit on

 

[Jargon]

People said the Sharks got ripped off in the Meier trade and they got a 1st, a 2nd (that can become a 1st), a former first round pick and a roster player.

This trade is insane. Especially the condition on the 1st.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Because he's a 27 year old top pairing defenseman in the midst of what may be a career year. The Hampus Lindholm trade set a pretty good precedent of what you should expect as a return for that caliber of D.

A former 1st round pick, a 1st, two 2nds and an offsetting contract.

Let it all out though. Your GM got his ass handed to him by a division rival GM.

Lindholm came with an 8 year extension, Hanifin didnt.

 

[Lunatik]

Because he's a 27 year old top pairing defenseman in the midst of what may be a career year. The Hampus Lindholm trade set a pretty good precedent of what you should expect as a return for that caliber of D.

A former 1st round pick, a 1st, two 2nds and an offsetting contract.

Let it all out though. Your GM got his ass handed to him by a division rival GM.

So you cite the Lindholm deal, and ignore the multiyear salary dump in that deal. That deal was essentially a 1st and a 2nd too.

I'm not defending the trade today, it's underwhelming, but at least argue in good faith

 

[drede]

Flames sent a.player too?

 

[Quinning]

Vegas makes trades that no other in the league can make. It's like the rules don't apply

 

[drede]

Flames sent a.player too?

Beside hanifin

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Conroy sucks at negotiating.

The Vancouver deal was really good. He got fortunate that Sharangovich has turned out well.

Zadorov, Tanev and Hanifin all pretty brutal trades considering what other GMs gave up for lesser players today

 

[Russian_fanatic]

We didn't get Edstrom it sounds like we got a 1st and conditional 3rd.

If you squint hard enough Miromanov becomes Edstrom

 

[Lunatik]

Beside hanifin

Vorobyov is from Philly

 

[drede]

Vorobyov is from Philly

Oh ok

 

[belair]

Lindholm came with an 8 year extension, Hanifin didnt.

He didn't extend until the day after.

The Flames had two days to find that trade and many of the likely suitors have yet to make their moves.

 

[mundyc3]

I really wonder who are the 8 teams on Hanifin's no list. Lol

 

[red devil]

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Numerous players made anonymous remarks about the Kucherov fiasco...there has to be decent support for it though none will publicly state it

They can complain about it, but I can't picture a world in which Marty Walsh restricts the rights of his members in some way, especially when it comes to playoff participation. Someone mentions it, he'll point out how dumb it is.

And really, a lot of these posts could [should] be split into a BoH thread on this, but any change to the CBA - and this would have to be a change to the CBA - has to be viewed as either "the players are getting something" or "the players are giving something up." I can say what the players are giving up [opportunity to play in the playoffs] but that really has no direct impact on the owners [they're not out anything, they still get the same playoff revenue]. What are the players getting out of this, and if they're getting something that benefits them, what are they giving up to the owners in return?

 

[belair]

So you cite the Lindholm deal, and ignore the multiyear salary dump in that deal. That deal was essentially a 1st and a 2nd too.

I'm not defending the trade today, it's underwhelming, but at least argue in good faith

What's stopping Calgary from taking back bad salary if they're being paid for it? You're rebuilding aren't you?

And the return for Lindholm was a 1st, two 2nds, Vaakanainen--who is a player for them and a cap dump. Without an agreed extension.

Speaking of good faith.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I really wonder who are the 8 teams on Hanifin's no list. Lol

5 of the 8 were all the Canadian teams since Hanifin said U.S teams only.

 

[drede]

Lol of course they would say there happy

 

[InfinityIggy]

On the bright side this should be the last Conroy deal I have to endure until the offseason.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Look out Western Conference because this is going to be one heck of a Blueline even if Hanifin is likely just a rental.

Hanifin - Pietrangelo
McNabb - Theodore
Hague - Whitecloud

X - Martinez, Hutton

Even though he is getting old, no way Martinez is a scratch if he is healthy. He was the leading shot blocker in the NHL last year and leads the NHL by shots blocked per game this year by a distance.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

lol what a laughable return Conroy literally going to ensure the Flames don't see the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

 

[mundyc3]

Even though he is getting old, no way Martinez is a scratch if he is healthy. He was the leading shot blocker in the NHL last year and leads the NHL by shots blocked per game this year by a distance.

Trust me he would be a scratch. He has been rough this season.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Trust me he would be a scratch. He has been rough this season.

Really? That's wild if so. Has his skating been the issue? Off the pace of the game?

 

[Puckstuff]

Conroy sucks at negotiating.

The Vancouver deal was really good. He got fortunate that Sharangovich has turned out well.

Zadorov, Tanev and Hanifin all pretty brutal trades considering what other GMs gave up for lesser players today

Conroy is hurting the Flames, another poor return. This is your one chance to get massive returns.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Even though he is getting old, no way Martinez is a scratch if he is healthy. He was the leading shot blocker in the NHL last year and leads the NHL by shots blocked per game this year by a distance.

True but where do you break up the current chemistry on the Vegas blueline? I double McNabb and Theodore or Hague and Whitecloud are split up.