Confirmed Trade: [VGK/CGY/PHI] Noah Hanifin (75% retained), Mikhail Vorobyov to VGK; 2026 1st , 2025 cond. 3rd, Daniil Miromanov to CGY; 2024 5th to PHI

The stipulations on the 1st make this, hilariously, even worse. Great work, Calgary.
 
He did do a horrible job. He got a horrendous return for a prime aged defenseman who would've accepted a trade to three quarters of the NHL. He owned an 8-team NTC.

If the rumors are correct and VGK's pick isn't until 2026, both Florida teams own those picks.
And I am sure you know what the other offers were and that he deliberately took a lesser one. If there isnt a better offer out there there isnt a better offer. He took the best one that was made. That doesnt make him horrible at his job.
 
How? If he was a pure rental, what does an extension have to do with it?
Rentals can get way less return. If there’s at least a slight hope of signing him that can keep the value up but his agent leaking shit to make it clear very few teams have a chance


Fans see trades as a value for value battle


It’s about leverage.
 
Day playoffs begin:
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It's not. Viewership and revenue are light years behind the other leagues.
Viewership and revenue have lagged for years. That predates Bettman, predates Gil Stein, predates John Zeigler. As has been mentioned millions of times here, Bettman doesn't make decisions on his own. Bettman provides advice, the Board of Governors listens and decides whether it want to follow his advice or not, and makes decisions accordingly.

But, that has nothing to do with what you said, which ... is hyperbole.

Of course it is. There's nothing really more to debate?
I'm thinking no, but apparently you're itching for more discussion on whatever is keeping you here, so ...

Do you want to go around and around in circles with me telling you how easy it is to manipulate return to play dates when a player is perfectly healthy and safe and ready to return?
The only thing I'm interested in is your explanation of how you're going to get the NHLPA to let the league force players into the lineup when a player says he's not ready. Cause ... I couldn't care less about the rest of what you mention, but I'm REALLY interested in that, given all the protections the CBA provides to players so that something like that doesn't happen.

Beyond that, I truly could not care less about anything else you want to discuss.
 
Its not that teams are on LTIR.

Its when they're using LTIR and magically have players ready to go come game 1 of the playoffs.
It’s not magic. They’re injured and quite likely still injured / not healed fully when they come back. They just hope he’s better then relative to when he goes out


Playing injured is NHL tradition
 
And I am sure you know what the other offers were and that he deliberately took a lesser one. If there isnt a better offer out there there isnt a better offer. He took the best one that was made. That doesnt make him horrible at his job.

he got bent over
 
I'm ok with a 2025 or '26 1st, a probable 2nd, and Miromanov. With Tampa or Florida I expected worse. Hanifin's agent whispering in other interested team's ears made it a difficult trade. I expect Calgary will think long and hard before trading for another top end American player again.
 
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And I am sure you know what the other offers were and that he deliberately took a lesser one. If there isnt a better offer out there there isnt a better offer. He took the best one that was made. That doesnt make him horrible at his job.
It's Wednesday. The deadline is Friday.

I'm sure you know what the other offers were, too, right? I mean you'd have to know if you're assuming that this was the best one they were going to get.

It's your prerogative to be happy about it. But I tried to tell you guys how much of a mistake it was to sign the guts they got in the Tkachuk trade return, too. Got the same feedback then.

This is a bad trade for Calgary. Hanifin was worth a lot more to them.
 

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