Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[Syckle78]

Alright well you can tell that to the Sabers fans implying that Rangers fans don't want to give up anything of value when really the only prospects Rangers fans have listed as off limits are Lafreniere, Kakko and Adam Fox who was hilariously included in initial asks from Sabres fans. A trade including 2 of Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Schneider and/or Jones would be featuring 2 of the top 5 prospects in one of the deepest systems in the league.

I didn't even want the Rangers to acquire Eichel and with the contracts signed lately it's clearly not going to happen, but the idea that most Rangers fans didn't want to give anything up in their hypothetical trades is not right.

Kravtsov or Lundkvist or Schneider
Jones
Strome
Georgiev
1st Round pick

1 true blue chip prospect, 1 A- prospect, 50-60 point 2C in his prime, young goalie who has starter potential, 1st round pick.

That's quite the package for a guy who has a 10m AAV in a flat cap environment, is no guarantee to be the player he used to be after the surgery, hasn't played in the NHL in over a year and will be close to 2 by the time he recovers. That's a package I've seen most Rangers fans had been posting or some sort of package along those lines and they would constantly be shouted down by Sabres fans acting like it was a package full of garbage and nothing. IMO that package would be a coup in return for what Jack Eichel is in the here and now.

The problem here is that you are overrating your prospects. Nobody you listed is a blue chip prospect or an a prospect. That's a boring pedestrian package full of a bunch of stuff that would make most people yawn but looks like a lot of value cause it's all piled up.

 

[DJN21]

Alright well you can tell that to the Sabers fans implying that Rangers fans don't want to give up anything of value when really the only prospects Rangers fans have listed as off limits are Lafreniere, Kakko and Adam Fox who was hilariously included in initial asks from Sabres fans. A trade including 2 of Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Schneider and/or Jones would be featuring 2 of the top 5 prospects in one of the deepest systems in the league.

I didn't even want the Rangers to acquire Eichel and with the contracts signed lately it's clearly not going to happen, but the idea that most Rangers fans didn't want to give anything up in their hypothetical trades is not right.

Kravtsov or Lundkvist or Schneider
Jones
Strome
Georgiev
1st Round pick

1 true blue chip prospect, 1 A- prospect, 50-60 point 2C in his prime, young goalie who has starter potential, 1st round pick.

That's quite the package for a guy who has a 10m AAV in a flat cap environment, is no guarantee to be the player he used to be after the surgery, hasn't played in the NHL in over a year and will be close to 2 by the time he recovers. That's a package I've seen most Rangers fans had been posting or some sort of package along those lines and they would constantly be shouted down by Sabres fans acting like it was a package full of garbage and nothing. IMO that package would be a coup in return for what Jack Eichel is in the here and now.

If you're gonna try a sell job with the last paragraph at least get your time frames right. Over a year since he's played? Gonna be 2 years? Not even close man.

No one wants to touch kravtsov, strome does nothing for a rebuilding team and would not have nearly those points you listed on the Sabres. Georgiev has fallen from grace and isn't viewed as a starter potential (not to mention the Sabres have Ukko, Portillo, and Levi so there's no need for him), and unless that first rounder has no protection at all it doesn't do enough to move the needle.

 

[TGWL]

Rangers can't afford Eichel so we can just stop with offers from them unless Zibanejad is going the other way. They have 5 players tied up to 45ish million. It's going to take the cap going up for Rangers to find cap money for Eichel without giving up Zibanejad.

 

[5 Minute Major]

The league needs a trade to happen yesterday.

No it doesn't.

 

[Ygo]

Alright well you can tell that to the Sabers fans implying that Rangers fans don't want to give up anything of value when really the only prospects Rangers fans have listed as off limits are Lafreniere, Kakko and Adam Fox who was hilariously included in initial asks from Sabres fans. A trade including 2 of Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Schneider and/or Jones would be featuring 2 of the top 5 prospects in one of the deepest systems in the league.

I didn't even want the Rangers to acquire Eichel and with the contracts signed lately it's clearly not going to happen, but the idea that most Rangers fans didn't want to give anything up in their hypothetical trades is not right.

Kravtsov or Lundkvist or Schneider
Jones
Strome
Georgiev
1st Round pick

1 true blue chip prospect, 1 A- prospect, 50-60 point 2C in his prime, young goalie who has starter potential, 1st round pick.

That's quite the package for a guy who has a 10m AAV in a flat cap environment, is no guarantee to be the player he used to be after the surgery, hasn't played in the NHL in over a year and will be close to 2 by the time he recovers. That's a package I've seen most Rangers fans had been posting or some sort of package along those lines and they would constantly be shouted down by Sabres fans acting like it was a package full of garbage and nothing. IMO that package would be a coup in return for what Jack Eichel is in the here and now.

Schneider and the 1st are the value pieces for the Sabres, the rest is stuff (it is not bad stuff, but, trade filler - I am guessing the Sabres prefer picks). I don't recall any serious hockey fan requesting Fox lol. Would K Miller have been on the table? If so, K Miller + Schnieder + 1st and any short term cap casualty would have been a real good offer. Cannot imagine the Rangers would be interested including Miller though.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Where are the Habs? They are 2-8. The missing ingredient has always been a franchise centre since...I don't know, forever.

 

[BLNY]

Where are the Habs? They are 2-8. The missing ingredient has always been a franchise centre since...I don't know, forever.

They aren't trading Suzuki despite his slow start. So, what's the package that compels Buffalo to trade with Montreal.

 

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Where are the Habs? They are 2-8. The missing ingredient has always been a franchise centre since...I don't know, forever.

Habs have nothing to offer unless they start with Suzuki, Guhle and a 1st. Buffalo doesn't want their other HF overrated C prospects.

 

[Team Cozens]

Listening to Dave Pagnotta on the NHL Network Power Play this afternoon and he said the Sabres price has not changed but they would take back 9, 10, 11 million in salary. Even 15 million if they were incentivized.

 

[Hookslide]

Time to end this . Buffalo should trade him or let him get the surgery he wants but with some stipulations...not for me to say what they are, but this is getting a little ridiculous for guy no one is sure he will ever play again......

 

[Holymakinaw]

Habs have nothing to offer unless they start with Suzuki, Guhle and a 1st. Buffalo doesn't want their other HF overrated C prospects.

Suzuki, who has 0 goals in 10 games so far this season?

Buffalo's asking "Where do we sign?", I'm sure.

 

[BloFan4Life]

Time to end this . Buffalo should trade him or let him get the surgery he wants but with some stipulations...not for me to say what they are, but this is getting a little ridiculous for guy no one is sure he will ever play again......

Maybe Eichel should just get the surgery other NHL players have got.

 

[DFF]

Suzuki, who has 0 goals in 10 games so far this season?

Buffalo's asking "Where do we sign?", I'm sure.

It’s a bargain compared to the 1 goal $11M man in Toronto….

 

[Boxscore]

Suzuki, who has 0 goals in 10 games so far this season?

Buffalo's asking "Where do we sign?", I'm sure.

Suzuki is still an awesome young center, let's not kid ourselves. Any GM who makes a decision based on Canadiens playing 10 games without their backbone in Price and their leader (and best befenseman) in Weber should not be working in the NHL.

Suzuki, Guhle and a 1st get Buffalo's attention and start the ball rolling. Habs would likely need to add another good pick but this is something the Sabres would (should) entertain.

 

[Super Cake]

Take with a grain of salt:

 

[Boxscore]

Take with a grain of salt:

That's a fair deal for Eichel.

 

[flamesforcup]

Listening to Dave Pagnotta on the NHL Network Power Play this afternoon and he said the Sabres price has not changed but they would take back 9, 10, 11 million in salary. Even 15 million if they were incentivized.

Maybe Flames could add more so buffalo takes Lucic? Idk if he still has his nmc though.

 

[Boxscore]

Listening to Dave Pagnotta on the NHL Network Power Play this afternoon and he said the Sabres price has not changed but they would take back 9, 10, 11 million in salary. Even 15 million if they were incentivized.

If this is the case, a team like Philly should be in the mix. They have great prospects to dangle (York, Frost, Foerster, Allison, Zamula, Brink, etc.) and some decent players with salary that could go back to balance the money (JVR, Laughton, etc.)

If the Sabres are willing to take back coin...

TO PHI:
- Eichel
- 3rd

TO BUF:
- JVR
- Frost
- York
- Brink
- 1st

 

[Super Cake]

Maybe Flames could add more so buffalo takes Lucic? Idk if he still has his nmc though.

He still has his nmc

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Tkachyk would almost have to be part of the deal going back, as they would never be able to re-sign him (and Gaudreau) after acquiring Eichel. If they would send Monahan and Zadorov maybe, but both of them have been hoorrrrrible this season (and most of last) and have close to negative value at this moment in time.

You cant be a cap team and trade futures for 10 million dollar players.

Have you watched any hockey this season? You're a troll if you think Calgary woulf still have remote interest right now, let alone a leading team in the race for Eichel, if the ask involved anyone from their top line

 

[Zach716]

If this is the case, a team like Philly should be in the mix. They have great prospects to dangle (York, Frost, Foerster, Allison, Zamula, Brink, etc.) and some decent players with salary that could go back to balance the money (JVR, Laughton, etc.)

If the Sabres are willing to take back coin...

TO PHI:
- Eichel
- 3rd

TO BUF:
- JVR
- Frost
- York
- Brink
- 1st

Philly has some nice prospects but nothing that really makes sense in a Buffalo deal.

 

[Lloydchristmas138]

I still think Minnesota will regret not being in on Eichel

 

[ORRFForever]

Have you watched any hockey this season? You're a troll if you think Calgary woulf still have remote interest right now, let alone a leading team in the race for Eichel, if the ask involved anyone from their top line

Calgary is not interested in trading what's driving the team in the Fall of 2021. Things are going well and they're not going to rock the boat to get Eichel. The fans would revolt.

 

[ORRFForever]

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Philly has some nice prospects but nothing that really makes sense in a Buffalo deal.

How so?

York is a potential top pairing D, no less than a future top-4 D. Frost would be a very nice #2 offensive center (Cozens slips into #1C role soon). Brink projects to be a top-9 winger -- smallish but with good mitts and great attitude. JVR is just money going back but he can chip in 25 goals or so. The 1st rounder is a 1st rounder. Not sure how Buffalo wouldn't be interested in discussing that package.