Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[Qward]

Can any (possibly) older folks here remember a trade that was "in the works" for this long, or longer?

No, we didnt have social media keeping us updated. We just read the newspaper that the boy on the corner was selling. He would sell us on it before we even bought it. "Extra! Extra! Jack Eichel trade in the works!" Papers back in those days only cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah! The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.

 

[deckercky]

Calgary VP Don Maloney was at the Sabres games in Ana and LA. Tells me Flames are very much in this and I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up there in a bigger deal then just Eichel leaving Buffalo.

Wouldn't a Calgary executive attending a game suggest that they were interested in somebody playing the game? I can sit at home and scout Eichel just as well as someone attending a Buffalo game can.

 

[SundherDome]

Well it's November, if he gets traded how long before he can have surgery?

Like 15 minutes?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Or a 24 year old peak athlete is fine in 4 months and Buffalo ends up with an average prospect, a late first round pick, and a roster player that gets ditched at the deadline

Well first off he turned 25 a few days ago so its gonna be hard for him to be 24 again.
Secondly Krebs is definitely an above average prospect.

I feel like you dont realize that the receiving team is the one taking on all the risk, and that Buffalo is not only going to get a single prospect in return

 

[Brodeur]

Can any (possibly) older folks here remember a trade that was "in the works" for this long, or longer?

I wasn't around for the 1991-1992 Lindros trade drama, but Lindros also sat out the 2000-01 season to force a trade from Philadelphia. It was the days before social media, but rumors of him being traded to Toronto seemed to pop up every week. Before the eventual trade to the Rangers was finalized, I remember somebody found hidden profiles for Kim Johnsson, Jan Hlavac, and Pavel Brendl on the Flyers' web site.

 

[cwede]

Can any (possibly) older folks here remember a trade that was "in the works" for this long, or longer?

no, but this is exceptional case, and in these new-age times
a top-2 skater, still very young, but with a serious injury still not fully treated
a management group of a beleaguered team 'negotiating' in the press

very glad my NYR re-signed Zib, basically ending the constant chatter associating them to this expensive, risky, distracting mess

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I wasn't around for the 1991-1992 Lindros trade drama, but Lindros also sat out the 2000-01 season to force a trade from Philadelphia. It was the days before social media, but rumors of him being traded to Toronto seemed to pop up every week. Before the eventual trade to the Rangers was finalized, I remember somebody found hidden profiles for Kim Johnsson, Jan Hlavac, and Pavel Brendl on the Flyers' web site.

And that trade was a solid return then. It only became bad. The Flyers got a guy who just scored 64 points in Hlavac, a recent 4th overall draft pick who still was highly regarded and hadn’t busted, and a reliable 20 point per year young dman who was expected to keep growing. And a 3rd rounder two years later (Stefan Ruzicka)

 

[wunderpanda]

looking at capfriendly, vegas has 5.75 in LTIR relief remaining, so they may need to clear 5.75m in cap and an additional $10m for eichel. tuch, theodore, smith would do that. brisson as the prospect. conditional 1st. then a 2nd for taking on 15m in salary. sabres could include hinostroza & caggiula with eichel as roster filler for vegas until stone & maxpac return.

probably makes both sides unhappy.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Can any (possibly) older folks here remember a trade that was "in the works" for this long, or longer?

How long did it take for Duchene to get traded from Colorado?
Seemed like an eternity, Sakic got a great return though.

 

[Fatass]

How long did it take for Duchene to get traded from Colorado?
Seemed like an eternity, Sakic got a great return though.

Was Duchene injured, requiring surgery, and very likely to miss several months in recovery?
It's a much different situation. I don't think there is a comparable.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Was Duchene injured, requiring surgery, and very likely to miss several months in recovery?
It's a much different situation. I don't think there is a comparable.

I never said it was comparable, look at the post I quoted. The poster asked about other deals that took a long time.
Just looked it up by the way, it took 11 months.

 

[ricku]

Yes, Eichel is an elite 1C, but he hasn't played hockey for eight months and he wants to do an experimental operation (for NHL), maybe he will never be the same. This is a risk.

If it’s such a risk, don’t take him! Let’s trade him to the Flames or, just keep him. We control his rights for 5 years

 

[Shane Diesel]

Can any (possibly) older folks here remember a trade that was "in the works" for this long, or longer?

Matt Duchene

Duchene: Asking idol Sakic for trade tough

 

[ElPrimeTime]

Since the news came out that it was close...

 

[flashsabre]

Wouldn't a Calgary executive attending a game suggest that they were interested in somebody playing the game? I can sit at home and scout Eichel just as well as someone attending a Buffalo game can.

Reread my last sentence.

 

[Haguerbomb]

Seravalli talked about on his podcast. Pretty much sounds like Eichel's gonna file a grievance before a trade happens.

 

[Stuzchuk]

as per a lot of BUF users on CF ACGM... BUF is looking for 2 youngish legit NHL players, 1st-2022, 1-A+ Prospect...

1st-2022 (VGK)
Krebs/Brisson
A.Tuch
N.Hague (is he considered as a "youngish legit" NHL player?)

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Was Duchene injured, requiring surgery, and very likely to miss several months in recovery?
It's a much different situation. I don't think there is a comparable.

Duchene was never close to Eichels level.

 

[Seras]

How long did it take for Duchene to get traded from Colorado?
Seemed like an eternity, Sakic got a great return though.

He was playing hockey, not the same at all

 

[zizbuka]

No, you wouldn't.

The majority of people here would move halfway across their country for another 50k per year, but these same people would leave 50mil on the table because it's moral, just stop.

Who's talking about morality? If I truly believe my best shot at a better life is this surgery, then I better be willing to take the risk and have it done.

 

[Kranix]

Who's talking about morality? If I truly believe my best shot at a better life is this surgery, then I better be willing to take the risk and have it done.

You wouldn't keep the 50 million and when the contract is over seek the surgery you wanted? Interesting strategy.
If Eichel voids that contract, he won't get another offer of 8x10m. He'll start down a peg and maybe never get it back.

 

[Seras]

If it’s such a risk, don’t take him! Let’s trade him to the Flames or, just keep him. We control his rights for 5 years

Can go down that road if you are not interested in making your team better and would rather be spiteful to a player while at the same team keeping drama in the locker room

 

[is the answer jesus]

If Krebs is the best piece coming back then Buffalo should just relegate themselves to the AHL

Yet when Buffalo fans ask for better prospects and young players they're told they are being completely unrealistic, but yes I agree.

 

[Static]

So Vegas having a hard time with the finances of this trade. Huh, who would have thought?

 

[Jumptheshark]

this is a fun thread