Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[Super Cake]

I'd rather Eichel sit for 2 - 3 years while the deal is worked out, and never recover his potential, and possibly retire at 26 as long it gets Buffalo some better pieces in the trade. I've been building this franchise since the 70s.

Doing that won't get Buffalo a better offer. It will get them an even shittier offer than what is being offered now.

 

[Djp]

I'd rather Eichel sit for 2 - 3 years while the deal is worked out, and never recover his potential, and possibly retire at 26 as long it gets Buffalo some better pieces in the trade. I've been building this franchise since the 70s.

NMC clause kicks in after 7 th year or he turns 27 (summer 2024)

buffalo likely suspends him before game 40 which prevents a season accrual tolling the NMC.

 

[TheBeard]

Based on the results, they "fall apart in the playoffs" less than every team except the reigning 2 time Champs.

Which is the whole problem with your argument: unreasonable expectations.

And St Louis.

 

[Jim Bob]

NMC clause kicks in after 7 th year or he turns 27 (summer 2024)

buffalo likely suspends him before game 40 which prevents a season accrual tolling the NMC.

I bet both the league and the PA will have something to say about that plan.

 

[Djp]

I bet both the league and the PA will have something to say about that plan.

nope

in CBS team doctors have final say

refusing surgery amount to not treating an injury whivh are grounds for suspension.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Is it possible that Buffalo is moving Eichel because they believe they're in win-now mode given their great start and want to capitalize?

What are Buffalo's needs?

No and everything.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

nope

in CBS team doctors have final say

refusing surgery amount to not treating an injury whivh are grounds for suspension.

He's on ir right now so no matter how this ends, it's another year served and he's UFA status as it relates to movement clauses.

 

[Team Cozens]

I guess we start to hear the grievance chatter tomorrow. So predictable.

 

[Jim Bob]

nope

in CBS team doctors have final say

refusing surgery amount to not treating an injury whivh are grounds for suspension.

Then why did Bettman say that both Eichel and the Sabres have contractual arguments?

I’ll believe it when I see it with regards to a suspension. And you know the PA will fight it like hell.

 

[JPeeper]

I guess we start to hear the grievance chatter tomorrow. So predictable.

Adams will drag this out until the offers just fadeaway until next off season where teams won't let their 2023 1st rounder go so it will go until the next next off season.

Meanwhile Eichel will have the most jacked up neck because they won't let him get surgery.

At this point why doesn't Buffalo and Jack just get the Disc Replacement Surgery? It's clear the guy will never play for Buffalo ever again and everyone trading for him (Flames, Vegas, etc.) were all fine with him getting the replacement surgery, so let him get the surgery so he can start to recover and get in some games for this season.

 

[The don godfather]

No reason to hold on a depreciating asset or a bad stock . Sell it and get best return. Adams is waiting too long .

 

[gordonhught]

No reason to hold on a depreciating asset or a bad stock . Sell it and get best return. Adams is waiting too long .

He is trying to create the best return by keeping multiple teams involved. Nothing needs to be urgently done, at least not yet

but you may be right - who knows

 

[Team Cozens]

No reason to hold on a depreciating asset or a bad stock . Sell it and get best return. Adams is waiting too long .

Hopefully the Sabres will still get a couple of 5th round picks. Or do you think he’s depreciated even more???

 

[Djp]

He's on ir right now so no matter how this ends, it's another year served and he's UFA status as it relates to movement clauses.

he can get suspended and not accrue a season.

you need to be on IR for 40 games or play 40 games to get an accrued year fit NMCs and other thinks like for offer sheets or arbitration filings.

 

[SundherDome]

No reason to hold on a depreciating asset or a bad stock . Sell it and get best return. Adams is waiting too long .

He hasn't depreciated anymore than he has before the draft. For now, Buffalo holds all the power... For now.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

he can get suspended and not accrue a season.

you need to be on IR for 40 games or play 40 games to get an accrued year fit NMCs and other thinks like for offer sheets or arbitration filings.

And needlessly put themselves under the floor? No they won't. He'll stay on IR and accrue his season.

 

[BBKers]

Buffalo Sabres
Vegas Golden Knights' first-round pick of 2022
Brendan Brisson
Vitaly Kravtsov

Vegas Golden Knights
Jack Eichel

New York Rangers
Reilly Smith

,,,with more pieces in play

 

[The don godfather]

He hasn't depreciated anymore than he has before the draft. For now, Buffalo holds all the power... For now.

I think his value goes down each day . I guess that's just me. I would cut my losses and get best possible package even if it's not perfect and remove the problem. Get the rebuild faster going.

 

[gordonhught]

Buffalo Sabres
Vegas Golden Knights' first-round pick of 2022
Brendan Brisson
Vitaly Kravtsov

Vegas Golden Knights
Jack Eichel

New York Rangers
Reilly Smith

,,,with more pieces in play

Eichel s value is really not that high is it?

 

[bleedblue94]

Buffalo Sabres
Vegas Golden Knights' first-round pick of 2022
Brendan Brisson
Vitaly Kravtsov

Vegas Golden Knights
Jack Eichel

New York Rangers
Reilly Smith

,,,with more pieces in play

I really hope nyr can get more for kravtsov than a pending ufa in smith, but I get it...

 

[BBKers]

Eichel s value is really not that high is it?

Buffalonwill get more.Thisis ther foundation

 

[SundherDome]

I think his value goes down each day . I guess that's just me. I would cut my losses and get best possible package even if it's not perfect and remove the problem. Get the rebuild faster going.

There just isn't anyway to calculate this. His best value was at the draft/FA but the week after until now, nothing has changed. I'm in the strong minority but I think other teams overplayed their hands hoping a young gm with an elite disgruntled player would sell cheap and he didn't. Adams has no real pressure to move him this week or next week, at this point it is just morals

 

[The don godfather]

There just isn't anyway to calculate this. His best value was at the draft/FA but the week after until now, nothing has changed. I'm in the strong minority but I think other teams overplayed their hands hoping a young gm with an elite disgruntled player would sell cheap and he didn't. Adams has no real pressure to move him this week or next week, at this point it is just morals

Yea but age 24 becomes 25 then 26 etc. Depreciating asset.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

If Krebs is going the other way, good day for Buffalo.

 

[zizbuka]

Because that's the resolution to the impasse between him and the Sabres? He's not getting better without surgery, and he's not agreeing with the Sabres' doctors about what surgery to get.

Also, he's not on LTIR, just regular IR. The Sabres are at the cap floor.

If Eichel believes so strongly in the alternative surgery, he should go ahead and take the risk. Is there anything to keep him from doing so, other than he might lose salary or insurance money?