Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

[TheBeard]

It means you're confusing Vegas with the Sharks when their trades for Karlsson and Kane backfired.

When Vegas wins a cup, which was the point, then you can talk.

 

[AKL]

When Vegas wins a cup, which was the point, then you can talk.

I would say this is poor logic, but I'm not even sure you can call it logic.

 

[Djp]

 

[TheBeard]

I would say this is poor logic, but I'm not even sure you can call it logic.

Really? So Vegas goes to the cup, trades for Stone to get them over the hump, trades for Petro to get them over the hump… they can’t get over the hump. How am I wrong?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Not bad for the 4th best offer last few months

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Which means………..

That they've been very good hockey team and Stone has helped make them a very good hockey team, which is better than how the team that they got him from has fared. It's all the more impressive considering that Vegas has only been in the league for four years.

 

[AKL]

Really? So Vegas goes to the cup, trades for Stone to get them over the hump, trades for Petro to get them over the hump… they can’t get over the hump. How am I wrong?

How are you right? Teams trade or sign for players every year to help them win a Cup. Most teams still don't win a Cup. That doesn't mean the trades and signings backfired. Stone and Pietrangelo are among their best players and are worth the contracts they were given. I can't believe that needs to be explained to someone.

 

[old kummelweck]

Calgary is the hold up.

 

[amnesiac]

Peyton Krebs right now

 

[TheBeard]

How are you right? Teams trade or sign for players every year to help them win a Cup. Most teams still don't win a Cup. That doesn't mean the trades and signings backfired. Stone and Pietrangelo are among their best players and are worth the contracts they were given. I can't believe that needs to be explained to someone.

If they don’t win in the next couple of years those contracts combined with the cost is going to hurt them, very similar to SJ and the moves they made. You do it to get you over the hump. If you don’t then it’s a failure. But, you know, winning divisional titles is cool and all.

 

[iginlafan77]

I didn’t say that. I said every time they got a marquee guy who was supposed to be the missing link, it’s backfired. I don’t see why Eichel would be any different.

Backfired how? You said they haven't won anything yet. But they've gotten consistently close more than almost any team.

 

[Fjordy]

Peyton Krebs right now

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[Brazen331]

For reference on the financial difficulty of the trade between these two. It will be fascinating to see how it's done.

Why link a reporter who can’t even skate? SinBin Ken is an idiot who knows nothing about hockey.

 

[Legion34]

Wouldn’t Calgary have way more assets? Seems kinda silly. I mean the cupboards are pretty bare.

teams must be scared off

 

[TheBeard]

Backfired how? You said they haven't won anything yet. But they've gotten consistently close more than almost any team.

Have they? Did they get participation trophies? Because last I remembered stone completely disappeared in the playoffs last yeAr.

 

[Static]

Why link a reporter who can’t even skate? SinBin Ken is an idiot who knows nothing about hockey.

What about what he wrote do you disagree with enough for this response?

 

[Syckle78]

What about what he wrote do you disagree with enough for this response?

You don't even have to read the long thread to see how stupid it sounds. He can't figure out how someone he says will be a super star on the ice at a premier position could possibly make the team better now or in the future? That's idiotic.

 

[Blitz]

Wouldn’t Calgary have way more assets? Seems kinda silly. I mean the cupboards are pretty bare.

teams must be scared off

More /= Better

 

[CupInSIX]

What about what he wrote do you disagree with enough for this response?

His takes are remarkably bad, and he doesn't even know what the trade will be.

 

[Super Cake]

Honestly let Calgary gut their roster for Eichel.

It is not even a sure thing that he returns to form.

All the Knights need is a Erik Karlsson situation.

 

[Legion34]

More /= Better

Both tho.

calgary has a better prospect pool. Lower picks and multiple good players on moveable contracts.

 

[These Are The Days]

You can do a lot worse than Krebs, Whitecloud and a pair of 1sts. No... It's not Jack Eichel but nothing is. You'll never get a full return. But that? At least that ain't shit. If that's what Adams gets he scores a win

 

[Static]

You don't even have to read the long thread to see how stupid it sounds. He can't figure out how someone he says will be a super star on the ice at a premier position could possibly make the team better now or in the future? That's idiotic.

In a vacuum, but with the salary cap and the injury situation it makes the deal very complicated. You act like there are no other complications but the talent involved.

 

[Static]

His takes are remarkably bad, and he doesn't even know what the trade will be.

I don't know his work whatsoever, but the stuff I read there sure seems to make a lot of sense.

Not that eichel to Vegas is destined to fail, but that there are a lot of considerations to be made with their salary structure and talent pool.

 

[iginlafan77]

Have they? Did they get participation trophies? Because last I remembered stone completely disappeared in the playoffs last yeAr.

Hockey is inherently random. Not every move is a failure just because a team failed to win the cup. Spoiler alert, 97% of NHL teams fail to win the cup each year.