Seravalli: Vegas and Buffalo working on framework of Eichel trade

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TheBeard

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Hockey is inherently random. Not every move is a failure just because a team failed to win the cup. Spoiler alert, 97% of NHL teams fail to win the cup each year.
If you’re investing your future, signing guys for big money for their prime while trading away prospects and picks and you’re already a perennial major contender and you don’t win then yes it’s a failure. Sharks invested in Karlsson and it didn’t work. Every move is made to win. Not be “real good”. You take chances. You make big moves in the hopes it’s the difference between being a contender and being a winner. I don’t blame them for making the moves they did but if they end up not winning a cup then what good does it do?
 

DudeWhereIsMakar

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The biggest question for me is when the trade is actually going to happen...

Basically, it's said and done Eichel is going to Vegas.
 

mouser

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Does it even really matter if the team trading for Eichel is cap compliant? What’s the penalty for exceeding it? Forfeit games? I’d lose two points to get a trade done if that was the hold up. Then he goes on IR and you have time to fix it until he’s back.

Nobody trading for Eichel right now is doing it with the intent of winning a bunch of games shortly anyways.

If a team doesn’t have the necessary cap space then the NHL will reject the trade.
 

Vegan Knight

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I don't know his work whatsoever, but the stuff I read there sure seems to make a lot of sense.

Not that eichel to Vegas is destined to fail, but that there are a lot of considerations to be made with their salary structure and talent pool.

I agree but that is what McCrimmon and McPhee are both paid a lot to work out. It may be convoluted but if the two want to get it done I'm sure they can jump those hurdles if that's the only holdup.
 

Djp

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If Buffalo is also including players on their 23 man roster the deadline for this trade would be around 10 pm ET.

otherwise this waits till after Kings game tomorrow which starts around 4 pm ET.
 
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Irie

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If a team doesn’t have the necessary cap space then the NHL will reject the trade.
On a related note, can Buffalo trade for salary before their next game to reach the floor, or would the trade be rejected by the league if it took them below the floor, even on an off-day?
 

Xerloris

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That they've been very good hockey team and Stone has helped make them a very good hockey team, which is better than how the team that they got him from has fared. It's all the more impressive considering that Vegas has only been in the league for four years.

Take this from a Blues fan of 40 years. Being a very good hockey team is great at first but pretty soon it's not going to be enough and it's going to be a yearly let down.
 
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CupInSIX

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Take this from a Blues fan of 40 years. Being a very good hockey team is great at first but pretty soon it's not going to be enough and it's going to be a yearly let down.

You're also a Blues fan who watched his team win the Cup 3 years ago after making the necessary move of adding a 1C.
 

Samsquanch

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Seems like Buffalo is just playing Vegas to try and get other team to make a better offer.

Agreed that this feels like a last ditch effort by Buffalo to up the pressure on any of the other potential suitors.

No doubt they're really working on a deal with the VGK. But as we all know, its going to be a whole bunch of meh. So yeah I would be desperate to see if there is any other possible option before cutting my loses on Eichel, and moving on.

I don't think that's how trading works...unless you're talking within the division.

Lol what are you talking about? Of course this is how trade negotiations work - especially when its an open auction for a player thats 100% certain to be traded.
 
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