Value of: Vancouver Vs Colorado Thread

[Avaholic29]

Uhhh, no


Byram 22 minutes game one
Makar 28 minutes game one
Toews 25 in 1

Byram 22 minutes in game two
Makar 22 minutes in game two
Toews 22 in 2

Byram 19 minutes in gam three
Makar 24 minutes in game three
Toews 25 in 3

Byram 28 in game four
Makar 34 in game four
Toews 32 in 4

Byram 21 in 5
Makar 28 in 5
Toews 25 in 5

Makar 24 in 6
Byram 25 in 6
Toews 26 in 6

Makar 24 in 7
Byram 25 in 7
Toews 25 in 7

Even strength. regardless, Canucks wish they had a Byram.

Byram has carried his team across the finish line at the defensive end. And he's a perfectly capable offensive D. The Avs already have Makar. This is not a good place to go.

Canuck fans are well into their offseason by the time finals are played, they forgot hockey was even being played. No way in hell they saw what Byram did.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Even strength. regardless, Canucks wish they had a Byram.



Canuck fans are well into their offseason by the time finals are played, they forgot hockey was even being played. No way in hell they saw what Byram did.

I constantly feel like this is a reality. Their loss. Incredible performance.

And I honestly feel that other teams are lucky to have their best D crack our top 3. Some teams yes. But Makar, Toews, Byram...are you kidding me?!

 

[GirardSpinorama]

You mean Makar Carried his team across the finish line

Makar and Byram.

 

[Raistlin]

Big talk. You traded for OEL later in his career, no?

Indeed. its on brand with vancouver. you just need to wait for Allvin to turn into Benning.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Not faded at all - the guy has played 73 games in 3 seasons lol he could have potential to be the greatest of all time if he's not on the ice it just doesn't matter - unfortunately he just isn't on the ice enough to NEARLY justify the asking price of some Avs fans. Like I said, absolutely 0 interest.

If you can't justify paying the asking price, then the Avs will very happily keep Byram. So, if you could get Canucks fans to agree to stop making proposals to get him for scraps, I'll make sure that Avs fans don't respond to those proposals with what it would realistically cost, and we won't need to do this again next week.

 

[CherryToke]

If Byram was available for anything less than an overpayment.. I would be very concerned about his health.

 

[Three On Zero]

I constantly feel like this is a reality. Their loss. Incredible performance.

And I honestly feel that other teams are lucky to have their best D crack our top 3. Some teams yes. But Makar, Toews, Byram...are you kidding me?!

It wouldn’t be hard to crack the top 3 when the 3rd best only plays for 1/3 of the season

 

[John Mandalorian]

You mean Makar Carried his team across the finish line

Makar is an incredible player. But it was Byram who was prominant in the crucial moments of the last game.

 

[Three On Zero]

If Byram was available for anything less than an overpayment.. I would be very concerned about his health.

He will probably be a stud if he can get over his health issues

 

[John Mandalorian]

He will probably be a stud if he can get over his health issues

Then why do you care? We'll gladly take "Winning Time" and all of his flaws. That's what we're in it for. He's our guy in that way.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

It wouldn’t be hard to crack the top 3 when the 3rd best only plays for 1/3 of the season

As long as he shows up in the playoffs, that's all that matters to me. Who cares about regular season assists lol, that's the type of things you care about when you have nothing good about your team to cheer for.

 

[thefutures]

If you can't justify paying the asking price, then the Avs will very happily keep Byram. So, if you could get Canucks fans to agree to stop making proposals to get him for scraps, I'll make sure that Avs fans don't respond to those proposals with what it would realistically cost, and we won't need to do this again next week.

2023 1st from Vancouver isn't scraps. No need to lie especially if your boy is as good as you say.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Uhhh, no


Byram 22 minutes game one
Makar 28 minutes game one
Toews 25 in 1

Byram 22 minutes in game two
Makar 22 minutes in game two
Toews 22 in 2

Byram 19 minutes in gam three
Makar 24 minutes in game three
Toews 25 in 3

Byram 28 in game four
Makar 34 in game four
Toews 32 in 4

Byram 21 in 5
Makar 28 in 5
Toews 25 in 5

Makar 24 in 6
Byram 25 in 6
Toews 26 in 6

Makar 24 in 7
Byram 25 in 7
Toews 25 in 7

I'm not saying your stats are wrong but I don't remember there being a game 7.

 

[Three On Zero]

I'm not saying your stats are wrong but I don't remember there being a game 7.

6 and 7 were doubled up accidentally lol

 

[Paulinbc]

No. Tee hee hee!!!

Cool story tho, bruh

 

[JLo217]

The same can be said for Byram


Health still plays a factor in a players overall ability. He hasn’t come close to surpassing Hughes

Did you watch the finals last year?

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

2023 1st from Vancouver isn't scraps. No need to lie especially if your boy is as good as you say.

Sure, in a vacuum, the 6OA pick is a nice piece. But, there's simply no logical reason to give up a 21 year old former 4OA pick like Byram, who has shown he can be a difference maker in the NHL when healthy, if the 6OA pick is the best piece coming back. Why do you think a Canucks fan made this proposal in the first place, if it isn't painfully obvious that Byram is better than anyone they can draft at 6OA?

 

[thefutures]

Sure, in a vacuum, the 6OA pick is a nice piece. But, there's simply no logical reason to give up a 21 year old former 4OA pick like Byram, who has shown he can be a difference maker in the NHL when healthy, if the 6OA pick is the best piece coming back. Why do you think a Canucks fan made this proposal in the first place, if it isn't painfully obvious that Byram is better than anyone they can draft at 6OA?

Most fans wouldn't trade that pick at all. Offering it for Byram doesn't devalue the pick. Doubt any team in the top 10 this year would trade it for Byram tbh.

 

[Linds]

The same can be said for Byram


Health still plays a factor in a players overall ability. He hasn’t come close to surpassing Hughes

Lmao BB was the 2nd best Dman behind Makar last year on the cup winning team. Put down the pipe

 

[gianni]

Micheal Ferland has been on the Canucks the past 4-years, and played 14-regular season games in total (all in that first year). Not sure why any Canucks fan would be interested in Bowen Byram after seeing firsthand how unlikely a comeback is after one too many concussions. Byram's a good player, but I have zero confidence in whoever the Canucks employ as concussion specialists to acquire a player that's had multiple head injuries. Other teams might feel they have the medical personnel to bring in a player like that, but Canucks aren't one of them. I believe Tucker Poolman might also have to retire b/c of concussions, and who knows if/when Travis Dermott comes back.

 

[jackjohnson]

If the Canucks draft where they are today at roughly 6/7th overall, would Colorado accept the following:

2023 6/7th overall, Hoglander, and perhaps a 2025 2nd for Byram + Newhook?

Canucks would be taking the risk of having Byram with multiple concussions in his career but if he manages to stay healthy it would be worth the while. Avs get a young forward with high potential and another unprotected 1st in 2025.

Lmao, Canucks trading their top pick so the Avs can draft another young phenom why giving Canucks some damaged goods lol

 

[PAZ]

Most fans wouldn't trade that pick at all. Offering it for Byram doesn't devalue the pick. Doubt any team in the top 10 this year would trade it for Byram tbh.

If any of the top 10 teams in the league had Byram they wouldn't trade it for the pick either.

It was hyperbole to say that pick was scraps, but Byram is more valuable to any cup contender than the Canucks pick (assuming it's outside of the top 5).

 

[jackjohnson]

If the Canucks draft where they are today at roughly 6/7th overall, would Colorado accept the following:

2023 6/7th overall, Hoglander, and perhaps a 2025 2nd for Byram + Newhook?

Canucks would be taking the risk of having Byram with multiple concussions in his career but if he manages to stay healthy it would be worth the while. Avs get a young forward with high potential and another unprotected 1st in 2025.

That 6th or 7th pick should give us Towes and Newhook and we give you Myers to make the cap work

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Did you watch the finals last year?

I'm sorry but this argument is as ridiculous as my fellow canucks fans saying that Demko proved he was a top 3 goalie in the league because he played lights out against the Knights in the playoffs. Small sample sizes do exist, guess you and your fellow avs fans aren't aware of that?

Not saying Byram doesn't have all the potential in the world but this narrative that he has proven more than Hughes while playing on a far superior team and based on one playoff is asinine, again Hughes has to be one of the most underrated players in the league, the fact that so many av's fans are bad mouthing his play in his own end based on one season two years ago speaks f***ing volumes here.

 

[Hierso]

I have a hard time believing Vancouvers GM wins an EP trade. I guess I also have to factor that into the equation.

I kinda agree but for argument's sake let's say that Vancouver wins the lottery. If they did that then moving Pettersson for futures would be a solid move because it would be a waste to have a ~10m player as a 2nd line C and unlike Miller he would actually return a great package.