If you read the point, it wasn’t that he wasn’t having a good season, it’s that last year there were multiple threads about him consistently. Much of those had posts about him being a top 5 or 10 defenseman in the league. It’s not that he isn’t or is, but that particular hype is no longer there. He hasn’t outperformed last year and in fact you could say this year isn’t as good as last year as you mentioned. Also, those stats without context was the other point I’m making, they don’t tell the whole story.
Why respond to my post if I’m a fan of a “lessor team”? What does that have to do substantively with what I said?
And he was outstanding in those minutes. Massively tilted the ice for the Avs.
That was the point… the shine has worn off. Solid top pairing defenseman, not a top 10 defenseman.
You’re the one saying it’s because there are new breakout players, I’m not. It’s not mutually exclusive, the shine can wear off and there can new players. Unless you think Toews is living up to his hype last year— then good on you but I disagree.And you think the fact that there aren't a bunch of threads about him, because there's new breakout players getting hype this year, is somehow evidence that supports this claim? And I'm the one being "less than genuine"?
I don’t think you’re getting it, and this thread has been sidetracked long enough. As a point, @GirardSpinorama makes a point above I agree with and is along the lines of the discussion which you seem to be missing. The answer to your own question is in your own answer. He hasn’t performed like he did last year and there are less threads, if not none compared to the multiple last year, where he was claimed as a 5-10 defenseman (there was no LHD distinction). That’s the “evidence” the shine has worn off. I’m not sure how else to explain that to you.
What will be interesting is if the Avs elect to put Toews on the market this summer, when he can be extended as part of the trade. He’s a vastly better player than Nurse or Seth Jones. He’s probably around a Wereski level player. He’ll be 29. No idea what his value would be. I suspect high because he can be a 1st pair player for several more seasons. But I’d hate to pay him Nurse money for 7-8 years. Yet he’s absolutely worth Nurse money right now and for the foreseeable future.
He’s a -19. Guhle has produced several lamentable moments that show you he’s a rookie that makes many many mistakes. Maybe he’s a future stud. But he’s so far away from a finished project. He doesn’t belong in the WHL or the like. But he’s being over exposed in the NHL. He didn’t come in with the same more developed skill set as a Byram or even a Girard. He’s got a longer path to being an effective player.2 poor games show he's a long way away?? LOL
This is beneath even you!
Refs definitely knew the situation and managed it well. I give credit to all involved. Pezzetta knew what he was doing. That meathead would have thrown a punch if it wasn't Byram.
thats just montreals gm leaving his defense out to dry. should have done more in the offseason to solidify the defense.
David Savard’s lack of effort on the Byram slam dunk goal was… noticeable. And gave Byram a killer sportsnet highlight vs an original six Canadian team. In Montreal with few other games on that night. Thanks Habs!
Well if you try to build with 6 Quinn Hughes, you’ll get promoted to the Alien league
