Value of: Vancouver Vs Colorado Thread

canuckking1

Registered User
Feb 8, 2015
12,948
14,087
Why would canucks take the risk on a guy who can barely play games? Laughable that Avs homers think Bryam is anywhere close to Hughes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HockeyWooot

bert

Registered User
Nov 11, 2002
37,576
23,895
Visit site
Byram was a 4th overall pick, and has already logged top minutes on a Stanley Cup winning roster as a 20 year old.

Why would Avs trade him for 6th/7th overall and what could be a pretty mediocre pick in 2025 (for example 16th overall, as Newhook was)?
As an outside this looks terrible for Colorado. What is going on with Vancouver fans?
 

GirardSpinorama

Registered User
Aug 20, 2004
21,813
10,808
This comes off as salty and pathetic. You are aware that Hockey is a team sport and not an individual competition?

What's pathetic is cheering for assist records and not winning cups.

The chances of Byram surpassing Hughes (already almost there overall) is higher than the changes of Hughes winning a cup.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Grinner

LemonSauceD

HFBoards Sponsor
Sponsor
Jul 31, 2015
8,014
13,703
Vancouver
We Avs fans all think Vancouver should absolutely keep and use their 6th pick in 2023 to draft your next Jake Virtanen.
You’re a Canucks fan too since you spend most your time talking about the Canucks then you do with the Avs. Should I mail you a Boeser jersey?
 

McJedi

Registered User
Apr 21, 2020
10,724
7,655
Florida
You’re a Canucks fan too since you spend most your time talking about the Canucks then you do with the Avs. Should I mail you a Boeser jersey?
No. you’ll need your Boeser jersey as he’s going to be a member of your club for another 2.25 seasons.

Y’all really dunked all over me as it relates to Boeser based on how his trade value has played out. Here I’ve been insisting since last season and again this one that he’s negative value and would be difficult to trade. Shows you how poorly I read that situation from the onset.

Congratulations on acquiring all those high picks and/or good prospects for Brock. Ditto Garland and JT Miller.

Vancouver is really positioned well for the excellent and top heavy 2023 draft based on all the extra high picks Detroit acquired.

All we Avs fans get is the Stanley Cup glow with Newhook and Byram’s name on it. It’s quite frustrating.
 
Last edited:

Nucklehead Supreme

Registered User
Jul 10, 2011
4,387
2,377
Let's not pretend that Vancouver fans didn't praise Demko to the moon after the Vegas series. Obviously he has crashed down to earth, but in the year following that playoff series, we had some Canuck fans saying he was already top 10, if not top 5 goalie.

I know that, that was my point dude, and is my point when it comes to Byram.
 

Nucklehead Supreme

Registered User
Jul 10, 2011
4,387
2,377
Byram has looked fantastic at every single step of his development. The playoffs perform was unbelievable.

He’s not worth an EP. The injury issue is very real. But he’s exactly the kind of ELC player every single NHL club salivates over. Because it’s a future core player.
You know it takes 300 games to judge an NHL caliber dman, yes he looks like a stud, but he could easily come back down to earth with more injuries, playing 73 games over 3 seasons would scare the crap out of any GM.

Yeah, it does look like a promising draft. But, the draft is still a crap shoot, even in the best of times. Do you think Kakko would still go 2nd in a 2019 redraft? Would Hischier still go 1st in 2017? Would Strome go 3rd in 2015?

Byram is already everything we could hope for in a prospect, other than the injuries. I think they should think long and hard about moving Toews in the off-season before they move the 21 year old kid with elite skills who will most likely get a bridge contract.
Every draft you mentioned was fairly weak except the 2015 one, hard to compare 2017 and 2019 to this one though, I get what your saying.
 

McJedi

Registered User
Apr 21, 2020
10,724
7,655
Florida
You know it takes 300 games to judge an NHL caliber dman, yes he looks like a stud, but he could easily come back down to earth with more injuries, playing 73 games over 3 seasons would scare the crap out of any GM.


Every draft you mentioned was fairly weak except the 2015 one, hard to compare 2017 and 2019 to this one though, I get what your saying.
Agree. But His first 100 games are Seider and Sanderson level promising/exciting though. And Seider hasn’t looked as great from games 100-200 as his first 100. So it’s early yet. But good signs for Byram when he’s playing.

The major injuries are concerning but I was much more concerned this past summer than I’m am now. He’s been head injury free since last season. This year, A leg injury from blocking a shot sucks but it’s nothing I’d lose any sleep over as a career threatening incident. There is a very good chance a Vancouver or Avs player will suffer a typical hockey injury like that before March is over. That stuff is just a part of the game we all accept.

His concussion issue hasn’t come back. That’s the best development. He’s playing with a clear mind.
 

McJedi

Registered User
Apr 21, 2020
10,724
7,655
Florida
Y’all see Byram dunk on Guhle and the Habs last night? Byram makes several sauce plays every game. Every game he flashes. He’s going to be elite. Dude isn’t available in trade.

Toews is the guy that will be this summer. Why? Because he’s not as good as Byram. And he’s a pending UFA in July 2024
 
Last edited:

Junohockeyfan

Registered User
Dec 16, 2018
15,088
12,823
Y’all seem Byram dunk on Guhle and the Habs last night? Byram makes several sauce plays every game. He’s going to be elite. Dude isn’t available in trade.

Toews is the guy that will be this summer. Why? Because he’s not as good as Byram. And he’s a pending UFA in July 2024
Byram's concussion injuries are severe. I wouldn't count your chickens until the cobwebs have cleared 100%. I think Pezetta hugged him because he didn't want to send him into lala land last night. ;)
 

McJedi

Registered User
Apr 21, 2020
10,724
7,655
Florida
Byram's concussion injuries are severe. I wouldn't count your chickens until the cobwebs have cleared 100%. I think Pezetta hugged him because he didn't want to send him into lala land last night. ;)
Pezetta hugged him because he likely wants to leave the game on his feet and not in an ambulance. He’d get targeted and demolished if he had thrown down there.

I’m not sure Guhle gets over that anytime soon. That kid is a bit overrated. He’s going to spend a ton of time in the box with such a reckless stick. -3. He and Savard don’t make a top pair.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: thefutures

VintageBure

Registered User
Jun 7, 2018
502
427
I don't think the Canucks will draft in the top 10, but I also don't think they keep the pick even if it was in the top 10. Management clearly wants to retool and they will trade the pick for a mid 20 year old dman who wont be better than Reinbacher in 2-3 years
 

Junohockeyfan

Registered User
Dec 16, 2018
15,088
12,823
Pezetta hugged him because he likely wants to leave the game on his feet and not in an ambulance. He’d get targeted and demolished if he had thrown down there.

I’m not sure Guhle gets over that anytime soon. That kid is a bit overrated. He’s going to spend a ton of time in the box with such a reckless stick.
Guhle has been one of the lone bright lights for the Habs. A bonafide stud in the making with a solid head to him. If Pezetta dropped Byram, there is nothing the Avs could have done. I think he knew Byram's condition and took pity on him. You guys must wince every time Byram takes a hit eh?
 

GirardSpinorama

Registered User
Aug 20, 2004
21,813
10,808
Byram's concussion injuries are severe. I wouldn't count your chickens until the cobwebs have cleared 100%. I think Pezetta hugged him because he didn't want to send him into lala land last night. ;)

Concussions are obviously a red flag but what's a bigger indicator is how a player comes back from one. Some players completely change their game and that's when concussion becomes a problem. Byram didn't lose that confidence, he's actually worked on his game while in recovering.
 

Junohockeyfan

Registered User
Dec 16, 2018
15,088
12,823
Concussions are obviously a red flag but what's a bigger indicator is how a player comes back from one. Some players completely change their game and that's when concussion becomes a problem. Byram didn't lose that confidence, he's actually worked on his game while in recovering.
After having gone through the TImmins concussion concerns, i am sure the Avs are gonna be extra careful with Byram and help him manage his game. I also think Byram needs to change things up a tad as he is very very prone. Its less of a confidence issue and more of a protection concern. Putting hockey aside, these guys are human beings and they care about maximizing their future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GirardSpinorama

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad