I think Burke knows better than to dish out assets flagrantly, especially after Kessel. And I don't believe the board would care about the money. Cap is the cap. Luongo acquisition would bring lots of hype and would more than likely sneak us into the playoffs. A few games would bring in more than enough revenue to justify his contract. And what does MLSE know about players as assets?
Speculation: Vancouver Canucks are asking for Kadri + Bozak or Kadri + Gardiner for Luongo
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I think Burke knows better than to dish out assets flagrantly, especially after Kessel. And I don't believe the board would care about the money. Cap is the cap. Luongo acquisition would bring lots of hype and would more than likely sneak us into the playoffs. A few games would bring in more than enough revenue to justify his contract. And what does MLSE know about players as assets?
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Your comments are valid but the sportscaster was saying that they likely balked at mortgaging the future just so that Burke could save his job (ie. Luongo gets them into the playoffs). There is merit to both perspectives.
This ^^^
Burke likely told the board he was backing out on Lu and they said no, you get him now, and Burke told them he wasn't going to do that.
That started the slippery slope and Burke likely exchanged words with some of the board and he ended up getting canned.
My theory anyway
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And there's a vast difference between Kessel and Luongo. Kessel, at the time of the trade was a player who had 10+ years of great to elite performance in him. The same can not be said for Luongo. We'd be lucky to get 5 decent (.920'ish) seasons out of him.
He's really not that good of a player. Bozak was given top line minutes and he had 2 elite players on each arm, the best he could muster up was a laughable 47 points. I'm sorry but 47 points despite given every golden oppurtunity is pathetic, had he gotten 60-65 points last season I'd be ok with that but he came nowhere close to those numbers.
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It's really not that bad. Bozak isn't a 1C, everyone knows that. He performed moderately well, given his abilites last year. The bar for being a "good player" isn't a 1C. Or else 95% are bad players. I'd love Bozak as our 3C.
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I'd love him as our 3C too. But that's the thing about 3Cs -- they're easily replaced.
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This is true. However, I'm sure you agree that Bozak is more talented than your average 3C. He's somewhere in the middle of 2C and 3C and is just entering his prime. He's certainly not an untouchable, but I'd like to keep him if possible.
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You know the worst part about all this, Canuck fans are salivating at the thought of the return for Luongo. I've been tooting Luongo's horn for a long time now, but the rumoured deals are all way more than I want to pay for his services. I just hope Florida lands him so this distraction can be put behind us.
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Losing Nazem Kadri will come back to bite this franchise in the rear. He's worked hard, done everything asked, go back to junior after being the best player in the 2009 camp and dominate, done it. Go to the world juniors and be a top forward, arguably the third best forward after Hall and Eberle with 8 points in 6 games, put on some weight, did it, then asked to play in the AHL limit the turnovers, is among the best American hockey league players for three seasons now, get leaner and lose body fat, did that, raise your defensive awareness and you'll get a long look in camp, done it. I fear that him going to Vancouver will give the kid a chance to thrive. History repeats itself. We get rid of prospects before we give them a chance and they come back to the ACC and go short side/glove side to win the game.
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While there may be "merit", in his entire tenure Burke was adamant and through example showed that he refused to give up any of his higher end prospects or youth for any veteran help. One of those two options is consistent with what he both said and did from day one, the other isn't.
Before anyone gets stupid, trading for a 21 year old does not qualify as trading for veteran help nor does trading Schenn for JVR.
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I don't think Kadri will ever be successful as a Leaf, and I wonder how or if he will fit in as a Canuck given their depth everywhere.
Bozak and Kessel are close, but I believe Joffrey makes Phil go more than Bozak does.
I'm reluctantly ok with Kadri and Bozak going the other way, and I think both are replaceable.
Hopefully the Canucks balance the deal out a bit by sending us something back.
There is no way in hell I'd give up Gardiner though. If MLSE is smart they make the Canucks eat Komisareks contract too(somehow, though unlikely).
Bozak and Kessel are close, but I believe Joffrey makes Phil go more than Bozak does.
I'm reluctantly ok with Kadri and Bozak going the other way, and I think both are replaceable.
Hopefully the Canucks balance the deal out a bit by sending us something back.
There is no way in hell I'd give up Gardiner though. If MLSE is smart they make the Canucks eat Komisareks contract too(somehow, though unlikely).
My thought exactly.
This team is not "one player away" from making the play-offs this season and Luongo isn't the answer (especially if it costs the Leafs Jake Gardiner + whomever).
Just play Reimer and tank. If the Leafs' are lucky this time, hopefully they'll get a crack at Nathan MacKinnon at next summer's Draft
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The Canucks really want to trade Lu. His contract sucks but he is a good goalie, and they signed scneider. We could say that if you want to trade us Luongo you have to eat up a contract like Komi.
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I'm so on board with this. Except the tank part. Play Reimer and see where it goes...either way.
What is the problem going with Reimer? Did he not have B2B shutouts late in the year when he came back?
Every goalie no matter who they are were once doubted because of a string of bad games...we need to put some trust in our coach to implement a new system in which Reimer is better protected from scoring chances.
I think he's definitely a top 20 goalie if we can manage that.
If the Leafs focus on team defense, we don't have to worry about our goaltending problem.
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Luongo rumor to Toronto won't fade. Burke wanted him bad and Nonis will push as well, but Canucks insist other teams are in play.
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Pretty much puts to rest all that 'burke didn't want luongo so he got canned' narrative.
Luongo rumor to Toronto won't fade. Burke wanted him bad and Nonis will push as well, but Canucks insist other teams are in play.
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Pretty much puts to rest all that 'burke didn't want luongo so he got canned' narrative.
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