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I am pretty sure gillis is looking for quality over quantity.
Gillis has stated multiple times that he was a impact player who can play in the NHL right away.
Speculation: Vancouver Canucks are asking for Kadri + Bozak or Kadri + Gardiner for Luongo
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I am pretty sure gillis is looking for quality over quantity.
Gillis has stated multiple times that he was a impact player who can play in the NHL right away.
Crispy Crust
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I'd do this. Not sure if Toronto wants to give up another blueliner though.
I'm also wondering if Gillis wants to get a backup goalie or if Lack is ready/healthy. Lack looked real promising, but he's been questionable this year in the minors. Mind you, Reimer looked questionable in the NHL lately as well....
Yeah, well, let's go back to Mac+Franson then.
Man, some of the Vancouver guys on here. Sharks smelling blood in the water or what?
Canucks LB
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Yes I agree, but the kings are not the only 8th place team that has won the cup, I am sure there have been "average" teams who simply got hot hot hot and made a run.
Actually, the Carolina hurricanes would be a decent example. (yes they were not 8th, but not top end either)
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If he costs any more than Bozak+Colborne+2nd, I would rather not trade for Lou, tank for a top 5 pick and continue the rebuild.
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Yeah well, I want a goalie on the right side of 30 and not signed for the next decade.
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sportsnet panel?
Hey whose the guy with the 'mullet" on the hockey sportsnet panel? I think he is a former GM?
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Hey whose the guy with the 'mullet" on the hockey sportsnet panel? I think he is a former GM?
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nm then lol
Crispy Crust
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I get what you are saying, but trading Gardiner for Luongo wouldn't make much sense for this team. Getting Luongo maybe gets us 7th or 8th place? Doing a trade like that in hopes of "catching fire" in the playoffs would be a disaster IMO. This team isn't capable of going deep in the playoffs with their depth up the middle.
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(Never use this guy, he's awesome)I know not many of you are particularly enthusiastic about getting Luongo, but it seems that most of you are basing trades off of what his stats will be like in 8 years.
I mean, from an outside perspective, these are the trade proposals I'm seeing:
- no prospect that any Leafs fan actually likes or has the possibility of high end potential (Gardiner [understandable], even Kadri)
- instead, let's trade guys like Bozak, Connelly, Franson (not even signed) or Colborne (hasn't shown much lately, nothing even close to getting an elite goaltender in return)
- 2nd round picks (1st round picks not withstanding) are too painful to part with, let's either have it as a conditional pick or a 3rd round pick sounds right
In other words, not much going the other way, and certainly not worthy of a netminder that is actually good. Don't blast me now...
I mean, from an outside perspective, these are the trade proposals I'm seeing:
- no prospect that any Leafs fan actually likes or has the possibility of high end potential (Gardiner [understandable], even Kadri)
- instead, let's trade guys like Bozak, Connelly, Franson (not even signed) or Colborne (hasn't shown much lately, nothing even close to getting an elite goaltender in return)
- 2nd round picks (1st round picks not withstanding) are too painful to part with, let's either have it as a conditional pick or a 3rd round pick sounds right
In other words, not much going the other way, and certainly not worthy of a netminder that is actually good. Don't blast me now...
So then Vancouver can trade him somewhere else... What? No one else wants him? Then they can keep him... What? They can't? Well then too bad lol
I'm guessing you'd give up Subban and Max Patches for Luongo then correct?
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Even with Luongo on our team, we are not contenders. By the time the rest of the team becomes ready to contend for the cup, Luongo will be a shell of his former self.
Also, Gillis is trading with no leverage because Luongo won't waive his NTC to any team besides Leafs or Panthers, and Panthers are not even considering Luongo if it costs any of their top 5 prospects.
So what should they give up? 1st + or Gardiner + or Reilly + or JVR +
Please do tell? Cause I'm of the opinion that getting Luongo for any of those pieces hurts the leafs long term.
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Bozak + Connolly + Lombardi
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Lou
There you go, take those guys for Lou and you can have Franson too but you need to give us a 3rd back in addition, 2nd if you win the cup!
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But what about what the stats of Jake Gardiner and Nazem Kadri in 8 years?
Seems foolish to focus on only the next 5-7 years of Luongo when you're trading two high-end 22 year olds.
Factor in the fact that this is a contract that runs until Luongo is FOURTY-THREE, and the ramifications of him retiring being on our salary cap for years as dead space.
Factor in the fact that this is not Luongo at the beginning of his prime. His skills will deteriorate before this contract is even half over.
Factor in the fact that the list of potential suitors for Luongo is very small, and not many teams can take on his contract with the cap decreasing next year. That means no bidding war.
Canucks fans asking for Gardiner and 1st back in August (and there were many of them) are delusional.
As are Leafs fans saying they'll only give up Komisarek and a 4th.
But the value lies somewhere in the middle, and I would be very surprised if Gardiner or Kadri (to a lesser extent) are in this deal. There's just way too much risk involved.
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Agreed, and while that should be the case what you can be sure Gillis is looking at is the possibility that a big part of why Burke is out is because he wouldn't part with what Gillis wants and now he might be seeing what a lot of us are seeing in that MLSE wants their GM to make the trade simply in the interest of getting us into the playoffs long term future of the franchise be damned. Quite depressing really
Crispy Crust
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This year is just a wash anyway. Get another high pick and continue to better the team next offseason.
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