Confirmed Signing with Link: [VAN] Quinn Hughes re-signs with the Canucks (6 years, $7.85M AAV)

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Regal

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This isn't really a Quinn Hughes contract criticism but having three 6+ million dollar defenders that struggle in their own zone is a strange way to go about building a roster.

The deal itself seems reasonable. Even if he never blossoms into an all around minute munching #1D offense from the blueline will always have value.

Yea I think that's the biggest hurdle for the Canucks going forward. And their best blueline prospect is a similar defenseman with not a lot in the pipeline.
 

c3po

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Hahah. No. That wasn’t your point.

Holy overpayment

the kid hasn't even played a full season in the nhl


you joined the thread and not knowing anything about the player, you googled him to find less than 82 games the last couple seasons, assuming he wasn’t always in the line up.

Now ur trying to say it’s this completely other point and it’s very transparent. Give it up
overpayment... because....... he hasnt played full season..... because..... shortended season
therefore, overpayment

how complicated is this to understand my point??

give it up pal
 

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Quinn to NJ at the first chance he gets in six years; so Vancouver will look to capitalize while they have him

Never a fan of signing guys to UFA that are that young and that good; Quinn must have fought hard for that, Im sure theyd prefer 3 years like Elias
 

Regal

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That's why we beat them?

How does winning say anything about an individual player? And I said half the series. The Canucks won game 1 despite being widely outplayed, and were also outplayed in their two losses. All games where Hughes was ok but had his struggles along with the rest of the team. The biggest reason for the win was also the difference in goaltending, which isn't a reflection on Hughes. He had a really good playoffs overall for a 20 year old rookie defenseman, but calling it "dominant" was overrating it. Hedman that year was "dominant".
 

jackjohnson

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Wait. He signed for less than Makar?:confused:
Well Makar is better all around dman comlared to Hughes, he won the calder trophy, can put as many points as Hughes while being better on defense amd can play physical too. Am saying this as a Canuck fan but I will say Hughes contract is very reasonable with the way the market is setup. People that complain about him bei g overpaid are completely delusional. Hamilton and Nurse being paid close to 10 million makes Hughes an 8 million dollar D man since he is more elite in terms of offense compared to the other 2 while being less defensive.
 
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jackjohnson

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Nurse can actually play defense.
Nurse can play defense but its not elite type of defense like how Doughty used to play D or even Tanev or Larsson. Also Nurse can get lots of points by piggybacking off McDavid and Drai, 2 of the best forwards in the league. I bet Hughes would notch 90 or more points playing on the PP with McDavid and Drai plus 5 on 5.
 
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How come Dahlin is equally as bad defensively, while being incredibly sheltered, whereas Hughes is not (80% QOC vs 23%) and doesn't get shit on like Hughes does?

Hughes is a premier offensive defenseman that fills those categories in every way you can think of (controlled passes out of d-zone, controlled entries into o-zone, primary assists, PP production).

Dahlin is none of those things, and yet 6x3 is reasonable, but 7.85x6 is not? Dahlin is expected to improve defensively, but Hughes is not?
 

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How come Dahlin is equally as bad defensively, while being incredibly sheltered, whereas Hughes is not (80% QOT vs 23%) and doesn't get shit on like Hughes does?

Hughes is a premier offensive defenseman that fills those categories in every way you can think of (controlled passes out of d-zone, controlled entries into o-zone, primary assists, PP production. Worse defensively and offensively

Dahlin is none of those things, and yet 6x3 is reasonable, but 7.85x6 is not? Dahlin is expected to improve defensively, but Hughes is not?
Because everyone knows that Dahlin is a lesser player
 

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How come Dahlin is equally as bad defensively, while being incredibly sheltered, whereas Hughes is not (80% QOC vs 23%) and doesn't get shit on like Hughes does?

Hughes is a premier offensive defenseman that fills those categories in every way you can think of (controlled passes out of d-zone, controlled entries into o-zone, primary assists, PP production).

Dahlin is none of those things, and yet 6x3 is reasonable, but 7.85x6 is not? Dahlin is expected to improve defensively, but Hughes is not?

Because Dahlin is over 6'0 tall and was a first overall pick. Thats basically it.
 

NoName

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That is a bit of a high number... but he is a super-talented offensive blue-liner who is just about to enter his prime, and this is buying UFA years, so I get Vancouver doing this.
 

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Marginally better

Nurse is better by a decent margin and you know it.

Now, admittedly Hughes is younger and has time to round out his game. He’ll never have the physicality of Nurse though.

Both of them are among the best skaters for D men in the NHL which in this era will allow them to play a lot of years in this league.

All in all, this isn’t a bad deal for the Canucks to lock him for term given that he’s an American player and higher taxes in Vancouver/BC.
 

Grantham

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Nurse is better by a decent margin and you know it.

Now, admittedly Hughes is younger and has time to round out his game. He’ll never have the physicality of Nurse though.

Both of them are among the best skaters for D men in the NHL which in this era will allow them to play a lot of years in this league.

All in all, this isn’t a bad deal for the Canucks to lock him for term given that he’s an American player and higher taxes in Vancouver/BC.
I know someone else brought Nurse into this not you.

But...they are totally different defensemen. One is a two way type, biased slightly towards offence. Hughes controls the entire ice when he is on his game for his team, and is strongly biased offensively with a lot of room to grow.

They really shouldn't be compared. Nurse is more in the mold of Petro and more of an all-rounder.
 

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How come Dahlin is equally as bad defensively, while being incredibly sheltered, whereas Hughes is not (80% QOC vs 23%) and doesn't get shit on like Hughes does?

Hughes is a premier offensive defenseman that fills those categories in every way you can think of (controlled passes out of d-zone, controlled entries into o-zone, primary assists, PP production).

Dahlin is none of those things, and yet 6x3 is reasonable, but 7.85x6 is not? Dahlin is expected to improve defensively, but Hughes is not?

Dahlin has been getting the stinky pile all over him. He got 6 million and everyone was saying it was an overpayment.
 
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