Confirmed Trade: [VAN/PIT] Derrick Pouliot for Andrey Pedan and 2018 4th round pick
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holy smokes. Benning needs to be fired. Trading for a waiver eligible player, not trading the sedins, not winning the cup. This is unacceptable.
We'll give you our crappy player for your crappy player (who you're about to waive), and we will throw in a pick.
Classic Benning.
Classic Benning.
Sidney the Kidney
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Sweet, I get to watch Riley Sheahan for 82 games now
Depending on the AA situation, Pens could always flip the 4th round pick they got in this Canucks deal to the Wings for Sheahan.
BHD
Here comes Skinner
Oh well. He was almost never going to dress for the Pens, and would have been a liability if he did.
My god some of you posters are bad. Whining about a 4th round pick? Proabably the same people who whined about the Granlund and Baertschi trades. How'd that turn out? Shinkaruk is a bust and Granlund is probably going to put up over 20 goals this season. Baertschi is also a legit 2nd liner now. Like I said a long time ago, Benning is going to make a lot of you look stupid.
Doesn't matter if he was going to be waived, Colorado most like would have picked him up for sure.
Doesn't matter if he was going to be waived, Colorado most like would have picked him up for sure.
WayneSid9987
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Clueless most of the time.
He actually has acclimated to the AHL well enough but he could never gain traction at that next jump in competition.
This pre-season he was around 10th on my depth chart in PIT and with Schultz and Bengtsson now, there was no need to keep Pouliot around anymore since he was just taking up a roster spot that was needed for a F.
I wish Pooh Bear the best of luck in VAN.
He does deserve a chance on a team like VAN that can play him alot.
Benning makes himself look stupid because he is a FOOL
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Pedan is a physical specimen who can skate and shoot the puck as hard as most anyone. Can be really bounce bodies around when he is the mood. On a macro basis he appears good but on a micro one involving deft skill, anticipation and vision he is lacking. Just seems clueless at times and that hasn't changed much over the years. Canucks finally gave up on him even though he was showing some progress this pre-season.
When I saw Pouliot in Willes - Barre he seemed soft around his net and lacked much amplitude in his game. Very vanilla and certainly not dynamic.
Straight across deal seemed appropriate. Thus, as Canuck fan (not the easiest thing to be) you wonder why the 4th was thrown in.
When I saw Pouliot in Willes - Barre he seemed soft around his net and lacked much amplitude in his game. Very vanilla and certainly not dynamic.
Straight across deal seemed appropriate. Thus, as Canuck fan (not the easiest thing to be) you wonder why the 4th was thrown in.
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I looked back at the 2012 NHL Draft when Pouliot was taken -
(58:00 mark).
I had forgotten Pitts traded to get this pick as part the Staal trade. LOL at comparing him to Kris Letang at the time. Hindsight is 50/50 of course. One of the few things the Pens have gotten wrong in recent years. (picking Pouliot)
(58:00 mark).
I had forgotten Pitts traded to get this pick as part the Staal trade. LOL at comparing him to Kris Letang at the time. Hindsight is 50/50 of course. One of the few things the Pens have gotten wrong in recent years. (picking Pouliot)
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Honour Over Glory
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Good riddance, the guy was given opportunities to succeed and continued to look lost every time, he had a few bright moments, but it rarely ever sustained for any semblance of a consistent period of time. He's at times, sluggish with his positioning, doesn't use his speed to get out of bad situations, lacks intensity, lacks any kind of awareness when he does give up the puck in a bad situation and then he doesn't hustle back to make up for it.
Just a lot of clueless moments with this kid. Pedan is whatever, the 4th is what we're happy with. At best, Pouliot was going to get waived, get claimed and be gone, this way at least JR got something.
For you Canucks fans that think this is a Granlund and Baertschi situation, furthest from it. In both of those guys' situation, either the team didn't want to give them a shot or they were buried by other talent.
Pens have so many injuries on the blueline every year, someone always emerges, Pouliot is always given shot to emerge, someone else always does instead.
Just a lot of clueless moments with this kid. Pedan is whatever, the 4th is what we're happy with. At best, Pouliot was going to get waived, get claimed and be gone, this way at least JR got something.
For you Canucks fans that think this is a Granlund and Baertschi situation, furthest from it. In both of those guys' situation, either the team didn't want to give them a shot or they were buried by other talent.
Pens have so many injuries on the blueline every year, someone always emerges, Pouliot is always given shot to emerge, someone else always does instead.
Way too many people upset about this. Our fan base must have either really thin skin or none at all Keep swinging for the fences Benning. This kid is 23, 24 in Jan tons of untapped potential. These are the moves you can make when your in a position where the canucks are. It's literally a guessing game where we finish, could be anywhere from 17th-31st. Could even (doubt it) make the post-season. Lots of what-ifs.
Edit: IMO Pedan was a contract throw in was never going to play for the canucks the trade was really a 4th for Pouliot
Anyone who thinks a 23 year old former high draft pick who has yet to crack an NHL roster full time still has "tons of untapped potential" knows nothing about prospect development
It still amazes me that Flip Forsberg was like the 3rd rated player that draft and he fell to 11th. It's like what did he do to drop so much
I sort of disagree, Pedan is a guy you bring up like 3-5 games a season to "take care of business" and when you are in a division with Radko Gudas and Tom Wilson, business will pop up alot
He fits definitely better with the Pens, he's better suited for the role they require when injuries pile up and you need a stop gap #6 in the playoffs. He didn't fit anywhere with the canucks, we have lots of guys ahead of him in Biega, Holm, Wierchioch and Chatfiled I would rather taking time when injuries happen for us. As for the intimidation tough guy thing we have "those types" in Dorsett and Gudbransson. If that was something we were really worried about we would have signed White already.
WayneSid9987
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I remember the pouliot draft and Shero just was never really interested in highly touted euro F's. Remember posters during the draft saying he'd never take forsberg in that slot cuz 1) he loved drafting D and 2) he was a swede while the majority were angrily typing out "TAKE FORSBERG" in the thread.
That was of course when Shero was with PIT. He's probably learned from his mistakes there.
That was of course when Shero was with PIT. He's probably learned from his mistakes there.
Rolling the dice on a former highly thought of young d-man finding his game with a change of scenery (and with a new coach that knows his game) for a 4th rounder.
Probably a longshot, but for a 4th round pick, with Greens input, I’d say it’s a gamble worth taking.
He will likely have to wait for a couple of injuries to draw into the lineup.
Probably a longshot, but for a 4th round pick, with Greens input, I’d say it’s a gamble worth taking.
He will likely have to wait for a couple of injuries to draw into the lineup.
Imagine you are in his shoes for a moment. You go to the Sedins and ask "will you waive your NTC?" and they flatly refuse. Would you then be stupid for not trading the Sedins, just like Benning is? No. Because it isn't something that can be done.
Same with Edler, who also refused to waive already.
Benning is in a very difficult situation, and it's not just the no-trade clauses, either.
Empoleon877130
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Sweet, I get to watch Riley Sheahan for 82 games now
From Friedman's 30 thoughts:
So I wonder if yesterday was the deadline the Penguins set for this trade to happen, and since the Wings still haven't signed Athanasiou, they pulled the trade offer and went to look elsewhere.
You have to be one of those fans that questioned the Baertschi and Granlund deals also. Please just d us all a favour and be quiet. At least give the guy a damn chance.
Just like the dumpster fire that was in Edmonton? At least it didn't take the Canucks a decade to figure out to rebuild nor can they purposely tank for a franchise changing player. So I guess it takes a stupid to know a stupid.
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