Confirmed Trade: [VAN/COL] Tucker Poolman (20% retained) and 2025 4th round pick for D Erik Brannstrom

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Nah, he can't handle an NHL forecheque and panics all the time with the puck. If he couldn't survive in a superior defensive core in Colorado, there's no way he's going to survive in an inferior defensive core in Vancouver.


Brah, the two million doesn't count against the cap when its put on LTIR blud. This ain't rocket science.

You clearly have no idea how any of this works. I’d read more, type less until you figure out tbh.

 

[jackjohnson]

Brannstrom placed on waivers Avs have the chance to do something really funny

It would benefit Canucks if they get brannstrom back

 

[Skolman]

not really. they settled for the canucks' own 4th. they should have held out for the oilers 4th that the canucks got in the podkholzin deal.

Lol, Okay Canucks fan.. You're right, Canucks won the deal

 

[Rowlet]

Lol, Okay Canucks fan.. You're right, Canucks won the deal

As far as the Canucks are concerned they won this. They got a bad, but serviceable depth D and got rid of someone who will be on LTIR all season ruining the teams cap plans for a late 4th when the consensus was that it would take a 1st or 2nd to move him.

 

[PAZ]

As far as the Canucks are concerned they won this. They got a bad, but serviceable depth D and got rid of someone who will be on LTIR all season ruining the teams cap plans for a late 4th when the consensus was that it would take a 1st or 2nd to move him.

When has LTIRetired players ever taken a 1st or 2nd to move? A mid/late pick has been the going rate since... well forever.

This is such a minor deal, it's weird people calling a winner. It's a step up from AHLers getting swapped.

 

[biturbo19]

When has LTIRetired players ever taken a 1st or 2nd to move? A mid/late pick has been the going rate since... well forever.

This is such a minor deal, it's weird people calling a winner. It's a step up from AHLers getting swapped.

Indeed. It's hard to even call it a "win-win" because nobody is really "winning" here. It's just a swap of things that two teams didn't want...that fit each others' situations and cap needs better.

 

[Kaizen]

Wow, Allvin just got owned by CMac. A purchased draft pick essentially.

Fixed that for you - still gotta pay the player.

Edit: apologies for piling on. This has clearly been fully litigated.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I'd take Poolman over Brannstrom easily. That Avs blue line is vastly improved from last year even after getting rid of Walker. If Kylington plays like a legit top 4 dman this year, then the Avs will be tough to beat. I doubt you find a better trio of puck moving D on a single team than Makar, Girard, Kylington.

 

[Peter Griffin]

When has LTIRetired players ever taken a 1st or 2nd to move? A mid/late pick has been the going rate since... well forever.

This is such a minor deal, it's weird people calling a winner. It's a step up from AHLers getting swapped.

If anything, both teams got exactly what they wanted/needed.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Indeed. It's hard to even call it a "win-win" because nobody is really "winning" here. It's just a swap of things that two teams didn't want...that fit each others' situations and cap needs better.

So they each get rid of something they don’t want to further help both of their teams situations? How is that not a win-win?

I'd take Poolman over Brannstrom easily. That Avs blue line is vastly improved from last year even after getting rid of Walker. If Kylington plays like a legit top 4 dman this year, then the Avs will be tough to beat. I doubt you find a better trio of puck moving D on a single team than Makar, Girard, Kylington.

Poolman probably never plays again…

 

[Skolman]

As far as the Canucks are concerned they won this. They got a bad, but serviceable depth D and got rid of someone who will be on LTIR all season ruining the teams cap plans for a late 4th when the consensus was that it would take a 1st or 2nd to move him.

The consensus?

Who in their right mind thought it would cost a 1st or a 2nd to move a guy on his last year of a 2.5 mil cap hit...? Not to mention he's LTIR..

Canucks fans are really trying to make this deal sound better than it actually is for them, not that a 4th round pick is much of a loss.

 

[Rowlet]

The consensus?

Who in their right mind thought it would cost a 1st or a 2nd to move a guy on his last year of a 2.5 mil cap hit...? Not to mention he's LTIR..

Canucks fans are really trying to make this deal sound better than it actually is for them, not that a 4th round pick is much of a loss.

...because the Canucks can now accrue cap space over the season, while the Avs were planning to utilize LTIR all year, giving them 2-3 million more space at the deadline.. It's a win-win, but there's people out there acting like a 4th is backbreaking and Allvin was made to be the fool.

 

[biturbo19]

So they each get rid of something they don’t want to further help both of their teams situations? How is that not a win-win?


Poolman probably never plays again…

I mean...in the sense that it's hard to call a junk swap any kind of real "win". It's really just more like a "no lose" situation. Both teams are now postured marginally better for what they want to do. But trading poop for a turd is hard to declare a "win" for either side. Even if neither side loses.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

I mean...in the sense that it's hard to call a junk swap any kind of real "win". It's really just more like a "no lose" situation. Both teams are now postured marginally better for what they want to do. But trading poop for a turd is hard to declare a "win" for either side. Even if neither side loses.

Avalanche get an additional $1 million to use during the season because of his LTIR. That’s a pretty big win by cap standards

 

[RandV]

This deal is actually going to be a massive win for Vancouver when Brannstrom becomes the next Gustav Forsling.

 

[jackjohnson]

This deal is actually going to be a massive win for Vancouver when Brannstrom becomes the next Gustav Forsling.

Hope so, let him marinate in the AHL

 

[CraigBillington]

...because the Canucks can now accrue cap space over the season, while the Avs were planning to utilize LTIR all year, giving them 2-3 million more space at the deadline.. It's a win-win, but there's people out there acting like a 4th is backbreaking and Allvin was made to be the fool.

People assume that 19 year old player from the USHL who is four years away from an AHL contract is more important than having the ability to build cap space this year. (I know that's just worst case, but my actual point stands)

 

[Rowlet]

Avalanche get an additional $1 million to use during the season because of his LTIR. That’s a pretty big win by cap standards

and the Canucks will accrue another 2.5m by the deadline, another big win. It's as clear cut win-win as it gets.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

and the Canucks will accrue another 2.5m by the deadline, another big win. It's as clear cut win-win as it gets.

assuming injuries dont hit in a key position.

 

[Brookbank]

Brannstrom just played his first game for the Canucks. And it was tidy defensively. Most fans were happy with his game

 

[nightonthesun]

It's fine, we've got uhh *checks notes* ... Kylington, de Haan... John Ludvig? They've certainly been on the ice at times, and from what I can tell, they're playing ice hockey.

I'm sure Brannnnstrom was fine, but just wait for the PDO to catch up with him. All luck.

 

[Fatass]

Brannstrom just played his first game for the Canucks. And it was tidy defensively. Most fans were happy with his game

Were Branstrom’s 11 minutes last night more than Poolman played in his four years?

 

[Xspyrit]

Brannstrom just played his first game for the Canucks. And it was tidy defensively. Most fans were happy with his game

I was surprised that there was not a team that gives importance to advanced metrics that grabbed him to have him in their lineup when the Avs acquired so much defensive depth. Sure, his size will always be a challenge but Brannstrom deserves to play in the NHL.

Something that people don't really know but he has only been outscored by 99 D-men at ES in the last 2 seasons combined (so only 3 per team on average despite 3rd pairing minutes). He's not really great on the PP because his shot doesn't create enough offense but he's efficient at ES and pushes the play forward with quick retrievals and excellent transition. He's quite similar to what Grzelcyk was for example, just maybe not as fast.

In the last 2 seasons combined, he was also 57th in xGF/60 and 36th in xGA/60, 29th in xGF% overall which is seriously the best you can hope/ask from your 3rd pairing D-man. This is what surprises me, I know Ottawa let him go (he a stupid Dorion 2.0 QO) which killed his worth to other teams but no one else noticed these advanced stats?

The thing is there is so much talent available today that teams are going to prioritize D-men with size unless you're an exceptional like Hughes or Hutson.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

I'd take Poolman over Brannstrom easily. That Avs blue line is vastly improved from last year even after getting rid of Walker. If Kylington plays like a legit top 4 dman this year, then the Avs will be tough to beat. I doubt you find a better trio of puck moving D on a single team than Makar, Girard, Kylington.

Kylington playing like a legit top 4 dman would mean the Avs have a sick AHL squad.

But he sure won't ever do that at the NHL level ever again.

He may have had a year or two with the Flames where he looked like an NHL player. But those days are long gone. He'll struggle to be a middle pairing dman in Sweden in two years from now.

 

[Xspyrit]

I'd take Poolman over Brannstrom easily.

I'd be curious to hear factual arguments for that