Post-Game Talk: Underwhelming 1-0 loss in Game 2

[LowLefty]

Is the success of Wheeler and Connor really because of Scheifele?
How they doing without him, in the playoff alone?

A true 1C really makes a world of a difference.


Hopefully Jets can still bounce back here.

It was a 1 zero game.

A solid C will always be a major factor in how well a line performs, regardless of the talent on the line.
So, you take out the solid center and replace him with one that is not so solid - are the wingers now less effective?
Yes they are - because you just replaced a very effective and important pce of the line with someone less effective.

So I'll assume your question is rhetorical

 

[raideralex99]

The reason why the others series are more intense is because they actually have fans in the building ... sold out crowds make a BIG difference.

 

[MotionlessGravity]

Anyone watch that Vegas AVS game? Hoo Lee f*** what a game, that had everything, 3rd period was insane. Whoever stumbles through this series is going to meet a brick wall. . .

 

[surixon]

They can’t find the front of the net with a road map and the odd time they do, the D couldn’t get a shot through if the puck was laser guided.

Its fascinating to me (well, more like aggravating tbh), is how so much of this teams game plan is to go low to high and have shots come from the point, yet they rarely have any kind of significant traffic in front of the net. It’s baffling.

Yeah, it's odd. I really have not like Moe's 0ffensive schemes for a while now. It's either a low 3 man cycle and we have sort of abandoned that a bit this series or low to high for a point shot with maybe one player providing traffic. Often times the forward who is supposed to screen is also late getting to the front of the net.

I'm happy we beat Edmonton but this coaching staff really needs to do some heavy lifting on deriving their offensive systems this offseason.

 

[Truenorthducky]

Winnipeg is not going to win any games If they don’t score first.

 

[ATLbound]

Anyone watch that Vegas AVS game? Hoo Lee f*** what a game, that had everything, 3rd period was insane. Whoever stumbles through this series is going to meet a brick wall. . .

That series is great. That series and the Florida match up have been some Of the best playoff hockey in a while. I think Montreal or Winnipeg could at least maybe steal a game or 2 from Boston or New york, but Avs/ Vegas and Tampa not that they matter are going to sweep and dominate the North team. Then everyone will say look see how bad the North was. And Leaf fans and media will all think they were the only good team still. The fact is the North is awful. Montreal/ Winnipeg both have good goalies, Montreal plays a tight trap type game, but Colorado will tear a hole in any North teams defence badly

 

[ATLbound]

Winnipeg is not going to win any games If they don’t score first.

Agreed. We need the first goal, or a PP goal. Need to force Montreal to open up a bit. But without Statsny and Scheifele that seems unlikely. But hey you never know, a lucky bounce could be all it takes.

 

[ello]

Anyone watch that Vegas AVS game? Hoo Lee f*** what a game, that had everything, 3rd period was insane. Whoever stumbles through this series is going to meet a brick wall. . .

Yup it’s so refreshing to see the trailing team like Vegas dominate possession and apply waves and waves of pressure until they finally break through and score a goal. Jets could never

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Yup it’s so refreshing to see the trailing team like Vegas dominate possession and apply waves and waves of pressure until they finally break through and score a goal. Jets could never

Miss the 2017-18 Jets.
We were like that once

 

[Snot Rocket]

I really want to like PLD, but we'd be better with Laine IMHO...

Defensive game good.
Offensive game just above James Wright level.

 

[razorsedge]

Hope watching the Jets lose made Scheifele feel shitty.

What is wrong with Stats? My guess is his sciatic nerve is flaired up from having to much time off with little activity. That's usually what's happens to me if I have a lazy week.

Missing "Rocksteady Demelo" on our defense hurts.

I was leary about too much time off. Jets are slow and lack intensity. Montreal just came off a 7 game battle with facing elimination 3 straight games. They are full on battle hardened. And extra motivated thanks to Scheifele's bs game 1.

Jets better figure out how to flip a switch and come out harder then Christmas candy. I think ramping up physical play could throw off the Canadiens.

 

[kanadalainen]

Heinola please, thanks.

We need the energy this kid will bring. Play your best possible roster, we can beat the Habs, and this includes Heinola.

I don't care about sliding contracts. Lets win a couple.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So ..... what happened to Stastny? Injured in practice?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hope watching the Jets lose made Scheifele feel shitty.

What is wrong with Stats? My guess is his sciatic nerve is flaired up from having to much time off with little activity. That's usually what's happens to me if I have a lazy week.

Missing "Rocksteady Demelo" on our defense hurts.

I was leary about too much time off. Jets are slow and lack intensity. Montreal just came off a 7 game battle with facing elimination 3 straight games. They are full on battle hardened. And extra motivated thanks to Scheifele's bs game 1.

Jets better figure out how to flip a switch and come out harder then Christmas candy. I think ramping up physical play could throw off the Canadiens.

Well, one more game like this and Jets will be facing elimination. Then we will see the intensity!

Jets have been pretty physical so far. It seems they can't be physical AND score any goals.

 

[PhilJets]

A solid C will always be a major factor in how well a line performs, regardless of the talent on the line.
So, you take out the solid center and replace him with one that is not so solid - are the wingers now less effective?
Yes they are - because you just replaced a very effective and important pce of the line with someone less effective.

So I'll assume your question is rhetorical

What is the main difference of a solid C vs. A top 10 C like Scheifele?

He is like a Buff now, he makes anybody on his line better offensively.
Unless the other 2 can show they can do something in the playoff without #55

 

[WolfHouse]

No, not trying is when you don't bother coming back at all -
It wasn't a great play but don't blame it on effort - it's a missed check - that kind of shit happens every so often in a game.

Montreal had transition because we don't defend as well as they do - that's their complete game.
If we are going to beat these guys, it'll be based on winning puck battles in their zone and getting the puck to the net along with a few bodies - we don't do that for some reason (although we seen hints of it in the third)

It's interesting to note, skill teams will struggle in this type of game - the skill is stifled and the grit isn't there. Ask the Leafs who didn't have an answer for it either.

The best line on the ice is the Perry line - they just go to the net and bang away - that's the game these guys play. Shut down the offense and pick up the garbage. It's horrible

We played a classic Dave Lowry zone D in the first two games of Edmonton... then our first line started freelancing while the other three still attempted zone and now we have completely lost our system

There is no buy in on the team - when your captain makes an excuse instead of owning game 1... that says it all

 

[kanadalainen]

Ehat is the main difference of a solid C vs. A top 10 C like Scheifele?

He is like a Buff now, he makes anybody on his line better offensively.
Unless the other 2 can show they can do something in the playoff without #55

Agreed, this game undescored Shuffles' added value IMHO.

 

[WolfHouse]

Yeah, it's odd. I really have not like Moe's 0ffensive schemes for a while now. It's either a low 3 man cycle and we have sort of abandoned that a bit this series or low to high for a point shot with maybe one player providing traffic. Often times the forward who is supposed to screen is also late getting to the front of the net.

I'm happy we beat Edmonton but this coaching staff really needs to do some heavy lifting on deriving their offensive systems this offseason.

We are too used to Laine’s shot being the one coming from ‘high’

 

[thistleswamp]

My observations:
Connor needs a set-up man.
PLD looks like his body is betraying him. The brain wants to do certain things, but can't.
Wheeler had some jump in the third, otherwise invisible.
Ehlers Copp Ves had zero chemistry
Perreault was a ball of chaos, good and ... not-so-good. Lowry &Apples were, uh, present.
4th line = blah
JoMo misses Demelo, a LOT.
Benn handles the puck like a grenade.
Stan is exposed against heady players.
Helle is good. I like him.

 

[Frendlygiant]

Habs will probably want to break out more offensively next game infront of their crowd. Could be a scarier but also could open up the game a bit. Hopefully, we lulled the Habs into a false sense of security and they eat too much "public enemy number 1" cake.

 

[Ducky10]

Yeah, it's odd. I really have not like Moe's 0ffensive schemes for a while now. It's either a low 3 man cycle and we have sort of abandoned that a bit this series or low to high for a point shot with maybe one player providing traffic. Often times the forward who is supposed to screen is also late getting to the front of the net.

I'm happy we beat Edmonton but this coaching staff really needs to do some heavy lifting on deriving their offensive systems this offseason.

I haven’t seen the Jets consistently and effectively cycle the puck in ages. This year in particular they seem very adverse to committing two men behind the goal line very often, mainly because of their shaky blueline. It’s really frustrating to see a Jet get the play deep with control and have no support. They just refuse to put two on the puck more than a handful of times or until they are trailing. I get mitigating risk to the blueline but you can’t be completely adverse to it. Not against a team like Montreal.

 

[Ducky10]

We played a classic Dave Lowry zone D in the first two games of Edmonton... then our first line started freelancing while the other three still attempted zone and now we have completely lost our system

There is no buy in on the team - when your captain makes an excuse instead of owning game 1... that says it all

It was 1-0 nothing man. Them not being committed to this Lowry zone D you keep referring to was not the issue. They are still keeping F3 up high in the offensive zone and tonight mainly played an overload in the D zone to protect net front and provide puck support on the string side.

I saw an extremely risk adverse offensive strategy, only two D men who had any semblance of skating and puck moving ability and a terrible lack of execution all over the ice.

In essence, they’re playing Montreal’s game, and getting beat doing it.

 

[WolfHouse]

It was 1-0 nothing man. Them not being committed to this Lowry zone D you keep referring to was not the issue. They are still keeping F3 up high in the offensive zone and tonight mainly played an overload in the D zone to protect net front and provide puck support on the string side.

I saw an extremely risk adverse offensive strategy, only two D men who had any semblance of skating and puck moving ability and a terrible lack of execution all over the ice.

In essence, they’re playing Montreal’s game, and getting beat doing it.

execution was poor but we are drifting in and out of systems

we sometimes play the zone D that focused on f3 support and boxing players out of the slot - ‘overloading the strong side’ looked more like our guys starting to chase man coverage tonight and losing their zone

I am also talking about the entire playoffs - we have lost the system that won us the first two Edmonton games... call it whatever you like - we ended up run and gun vs Oilers in game 4 - luckily they were a shambles

I can’t be too hard on them tonight without demelo but it’s not a good trend

 

[jetsforever]

Did Benn play tonight? I don't think I heard his name once

Only 12 minutes but yeah, he wasn't very noticeable

 

[snowkiddin]

Not sure if it’s all the missing players or what but just seemed like a very little effort tonight. They should’ve come out mad today after last game and after the bush league ruling by the NHL, but instead they came out defeated. No playoff intensity, looked like a preseason game.

Oh well, our pick won’t drop 10 spots and we won’t get demolished by the Avalanche so it’s not all bad