I don't pretend to be tough mentally and do not pretend to know or even be able to compare life experiences with Boucher. But there are people on this board who have dealt with a lot in their lives and comments like that are just silly and triggering.
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I don't pretend to be tough mentally and do not pretend to know or even be able to compare life experiences with Boucher. But there are people on this board who have dealt with a lot in their lives and comments like that are just silly and triggering.
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So because the scouts don't pick the player you like, they somehow lack humility?
We won’t need him in the top 6 after winning the lottery.
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Nobody is a “right” or “wrong” fan. Sometimes good points are made on both sides.
However, for years people said:
- Sens reach too much on draft picks
- Sens over-value toughness and physicality
- Sens don’t value skill enough
And then they drafted Boucher, who represents all of the above. And so he is now fairly or unfairly the poster boy for that argument, despite the fact that the current iteration of the Sens is a team that has skill in spades and could actually use more toughness. It’s a huge burden to place on a teenager and I think it’s easy to want to root for him as a result. Do I think people want Boucher to fail? No. But I do think people want Sens management to fail, and I think Boucher is sort of an extension of that.
That’s just my view of what’s happening. It’d be nice if Boucher was just Boucher and not a poster boy for arguments around Ottawa’s drafting style on both sides but hey it is what it is.
God Says No
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Sens of Anarchy
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What's the draft ranking source for the baseline. And would you want this for 7 rounds or less?
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Boucher can still play a valuable role on the 4th line in the NHL. Big, tough, intimidating, hits everything that moves and forces teams to move the puck faster than they'd like. Maybe puts up 15-20 points. Move up to the third line when we have injuries or when it's a physical game that needs some oomph higher up on the roster. The Chris Neil (light) role.
While it's not what I'd want from a 10th overall pick, it's still way better than the pick busting outright.
He needs tocontinue developing is overall game and skating (speed) for a few years. And I doubt he puts on much more weight...5 or 10 pounds at most. Anything more and he will end up being a bit too bulky and slow. Can't hit what you can't catch, after all.
While it's not what I'd want from a 10th overall pick, it's still way better than the pick busting outright.
He needs tocontinue developing is overall game and skating (speed) for a few years. And I doubt he puts on much more weight...5 or 10 pounds at most. Anything more and he will end up being a bit too bulky and slow. Can't hit what you can't catch, after all.
A dislocated shoulder it is immediately a long term injury, no?
2 months best case sort of thing?
What's with Senators and their shoulder injuries?
Also, do we add injury prone to his file?
15 points from your 10 OA is an outright bust. How many forwards with a ceiling of 15 points per season play more than a couple hundred games?
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Boucher if/when he makes it will start at a 25 pt bottom six floor. That’s minimum he starts at.
We can then hope he turns into a 30-50 pt middle six player. (Which imo is likely enough)
He will be an impactful asset.
1-3 years away though so let’s talk about something else mmmk?
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Nah. You make it to the NHL and play a few hundred games, you're not an outright bust.
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He did play a shift or two on the 3rd.
The injury either isn’t as serious as it almost always is, or he injured it later than the 2nd. You can’t move the joint when you dislocate your shoulder.
I’d lean towards it not being a dislocated shoulder and probably just separated.
He’s a walking injury, and with the type of game he needs to play, that’s going to be a serious issue.
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Sens of Anarchy
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dislocated seems like a stretch if he injured it in the 2nd and came back to play in the 3rd .. I am no doctor just a layman's opinion.
I have not heard of anything chronic where its a pop out pop in thing.
I expect it won't be too serious,
bert
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Maybe, maybe not. You certainly wont build an identity that way though.
Secondly nothing Simmer says on twitter has any substance he is just looking for clicks. He was hating on Debrincat until he broke out recently. Which is a pretty terrible look when this is your full time job. He had 270 games of sample size to have actually watched him and he clearly didnt.
He ripped on JBD his second shift after coming back from an injury who then went on to have his best NHL game of his life. His bank account depends on clicks. Have to take everything with a grain of salt.
I don't have a definitive listing but those used by Tankathon to develop their lists would be a starting place. Their sources would require vetting and there may be some missing sources to be added.
The number of rounds would depend on the tounds of the NHL draft over time. 7 is good as a starting point.
bert
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Why bother post something like this. It's not genuine and avoids all context. He has 15 points in 16 games. You can say you're worried because he appears to be injury proned. But this is disingenuous and provides 0 substance.
