EverettMike
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Cap is gonna skyrocket next off-season.
Wasn't getting what he wanted this year, so now he goes and stat pads on Toronto's top line this year and gets his money next go around.
Smart agent.
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Cap is gonna skyrocket next off-season.
Wasn't getting what he wanted this year, so now he goes and stat pads on Toronto's top line this year and gets his money next go around.
Smart agent.
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"It's always about the money." That he took a one year deal with the Leafs is the most painful possible outcome. Makes you wonder what the Bruins are allegedly saving cap for and for how long. ...
BiteThisBurrows
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Look on the bright side. This means the Leafs D will be garbage unless they trade away Nylander for real D.
Maple Leafs sign Tyler Bertuzzi to one-year, $5.5M contract
The Toronto Maple Leafs signed forward Tyler Bertuzzi to a one-year, $5.5 million contract on Sunday.www.sportsnet.ca
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I don't think his heart was really in Boston. Looking at his body language in interviews, during and after games, I didn't get impression he was that committed to staying here. Bert played well for us, no doubt, but I do remember some glaring blind passes in D-zone. For the term and money he was supposedly seeking, I would pass on him. There will be others. Wings are easier fix than Center slots.
I don't think we need to go after him for his personal beliefs on bodily autonomy, imo.
And Anti-vax means anti vaccine of every kind. That's not what he is.
He just didn't want the covid shot. It's not a big deal.
RussellmaniaKW
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eh, idk about that. his agent almost f***ed him. if it was simply smarts he'd have taken a 1 year deal with Boston & leveraged proven chemistry with Pasta to the same effect, but instead he went looking for a long-term deal in a compressed market. he only lucked into the Toronto deal once he realized he wasn't getting more than a year somewhere. this clearly wasn't the plan. it'll probably work out for him b/c Toronto is a great fit for his game, but let's not pretend this was some master plan.
EverettMike
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in case there's any doubt about what happened:
he was asking for a long term deal. by the time he gave in and was open to 1 year, Boston had moved on. This wasn't some stroke of genius by his agent. he's lucky there was a contending team that had the space and interest for him. he could have easily done worse. his agent really misread the market and probably should have given Boston a crack at a 1 year deal in the first place.
oh well. I liked what he brought and loved his chemistry with Pasta but they'll have better options next Summer (and could even circle back to Bert if they want).
incredible that you can read the same thing I read and come to the exact opposite conclusion. How did Boston f*** up? Bertuzzi's camp wanted multiple years. They entertain a 1 year deal until a day late when they realized this market wasn't going to give him what he wanted. By then Boston had moved on. Seriously, please explain what Boston should have done different? Do you think he should have gotten a long term deal from Boston? I don't. He's good but there will be better options next summer.
he was asking for a long term deal. by the time he gave in and was open to 1 year, Boston had moved on. This wasn't some stroke of genius by his agent. he's lucky there was a contending team that had the space and interest for him. he could have easily done worse. his agent really misread the market and probably should have given Boston a crack at a 1 year deal in the first place.
oh well. I liked what he brought and loved his chemistry with Pasta but they'll have better options next Summer (and could even circle back to Bert if they want).
incredible that you can read the same thing I read and come to the exact opposite conclusion. How did Boston f*** up? Bertuzzi's camp wanted multiple years. They entertain a 1 year deal until a day late when they realized this market wasn't going to give him what he wanted. By then Boston had moved on. Seriously, please explain what Boston should have done different? Do you think he should have gotten a long term deal from Boston? I don't. He's good but there will be better options next summer.
EverettMike
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I don't know, maybe not signed a bunch of over the hill washed up players who made it so they couldn't give the guy they actually wanted a one-year deal when that became an option within 24 hours?
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Thought for sure DS would be trading at least two of Gryz, Forbort, and Ullmark to open up cap space for a top six talent. Looks like Bertuzzi could have been had for relatively cheap had that space been opened up. Ah well, at least they have JVR and Shattenkirk and a case of Metamucil. Hopefully DS still is able to unload a couple of the aforementioned players and bring in something good. Not holding my breath at this point.
RussellmaniaKW
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was he going to fill 4 roster spots?
EverettMike
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So what was their plan then since we know Bertuzzi was a priority? Did they think they'd get him for an AAV of 4?
No way that thought he'd come in under 5.5, so if he accepted a multi year deal it would be the same issue.
So no, he wouldn't fill 4 roster spots, but that's totally irrelevant.
I guess you've just accepted they're going to suck? I have as well!
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He just might regret it in TO. We shall see. I agree with the posts about him not loving Boston. I also think he can turn the puck over at some horrible times so that will fit in with the Leafs for sure! LOL! I think he’s a very good player but he wants more coin than the Bruins (and it seems others) are willing to give now. This time next year he signs a big deal with someone I’m sure.
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Agreed. When you heard after awhile he was still settling in and such…..meh…..hate to see him go but we have seen moves like this backfire on a player around the league before. Nothing personal but he had better be ready to tell everyone what he’s eating everyday with the loons in the TO media. And still with this the Leafs will struggle to make it past round one
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Bruins shouldn't be expected to wait for Bert to "pivot", especially if that wasn't mentioned as an option initially.
Also entirely possible that, given that he's gambling on having a career year, that he felt that the lineup in Boston would not appeal to him. i.e. wouldn't showcase his talent enough to get him a big payday next year.
Yes it kinda sucks that that 100th year is looking to be mediocre at best, but the addition of Bert wasn't going to change that.
So I can accept this, and move on.
Also entirely possible that, given that he's gambling on having a career year, that he felt that the lineup in Boston would not appeal to him. i.e. wouldn't showcase his talent enough to get him a big payday next year.
Yes it kinda sucks that that 100th year is looking to be mediocre at best, but the addition of Bert wasn't going to change that.
So I can accept this, and move on.
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Set himself up well for a nice contract by having a great offensive playoffs for the Bs. Dude has to be pretty disappointed that no contending teams were willing to sign him on a long-term deal. I understand the cap implications a lot of teams face, but still have to wonder if his injury history made teams hesitant to sign him for a deal with good term.
Toronto and Boston both good places to pad stats based on probable linemates. Bert better hope he stays healthy this coming year. More injuries next season and he might be back to square one trying to get a long-term deal. Would have loved to have him back while at the same time not overly disappointed since his health is a relevant issue to be wary of.
Toronto and Boston both good places to pad stats based on probable linemates. Bert better hope he stays healthy this coming year. More injuries next season and he might be back to square one trying to get a long-term deal. Would have loved to have him back while at the same time not overly disappointed since his health is a relevant issue to be wary of.
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Sorry to see him go, especially to the Leafs, but not seriously concerned about it. He did have some chemistry with Pasta but we're not talking about a piece that would put you over the top. Loved his energy and persistence on the ice but he isn't a "difference maker". As many have referenced already, he did make a ton of defensive zone mistakes in his time here. I don't want this to be construed as kicking him on the way out because he did provide an offensive lift to the team while he was here. That said, he isn't a 30 goal scorer in my opinion and honestly really falls somewhere between a second and third liner. Apparently the rest of the NHL saw it that way as well because if he was truly a hot commodity he wouldn't be settling for one year. Obviously his agent did a terrible job of "reading the room" and put him between a rock and a hard place. First thing I would do if I was him is to get a new agent, second thing I would do is plan on helping the Leafs continue their losing tradition because that's the hand he is now dealt.
EverettMike
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I do not wish him good luck.
Either way they would have had to move players to fit him in, but I dont see where it makes sense to do it for him for a one year deal, vs doing to for a deal with term.
Would you be fine if they attached an asset to Forbort or traded Gryz for peanuts or Ullmark in a saturated goalie market to bring in a guy for one year and then he leaves?
I just dont see how the 1 year deal makes sense for them, but maybe I'm seeing the picture wrong here
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The plan was likely to offer him 4x5 and hope he likes it enough in Boston to take it. He obviously didn't. Maybe they'd have matched the Toronto offer, but had they done so they'd have had to move more space out to make room to sign some of the other guys just to fill out the rest of the roster. For arguments sake if they kept Bert then the only signing he replaces is likely JVR. So now you need to make up a $4.5m difference, which means they're likely either trading Gryz or Ullmark or paying yet another asset to dump Forbort. So you have a better player in Bert, but you're creating holes elsewhere that would need to be filled with at least a warm body.
Is keeping Bertuzzi, who is likely not making you a contender this year by himself, for 1 year worth moving out other guys? Do you trade your Vezina winning goalie from a position of weakness just to keep Bertuzzi for 1 year and make this season more palatable?
I think Sweeney did the right thing here. It's a shitty situation, but we all knew it would be the second game 7 ended. The reality is that this is a bridge year. 37 and 46 are in limbo, they have a huge hole at center, and they're carrying almost 5 million in dead cap from going all in. Next year they shed their worst contracts, get rid of the dead cap hits and get to go fishing in a much, much deeper UFA pool. It is what it is. The absolute worst thing they could have done this weekend is get desperate trying to keep the window open and over-commit to a guy like Bertuzzi (or some other middling UFA) on long-term money. I like Bertuzzi a lot but he has never stayed healthy for long and a long term deal for him could easily turn into a Backes or Beleskey type deal after a few years. Not comparing any of them as players. I'm just talking about risk & age. I'd much rather they commit long money to guys who move the needle a little more, some of whom could be available next summer. Commit big, long money to core guys, not to complementary guys (which as much as I like Bert, that's what he'd have been). I don't think the fanbase that ripped Sweeney for commiting long-term to middling guys during a retool should be demanding that he move heaven and earth to keep Tyler Bertuzzi during a transitional year when they are likely to be better ways to spend that money a year later.
In the meantime they found some guys who can play for them this year and at least contribute regularly. I disagree with your characterization that they sign a bunch of "over the hill washed up players". Lucic is what he is, but we both know it's a special case with him. JVR and Shattenkirk are past their prime but neither is washed up. Both are still productive players. JVR for $1M and what he'll likely give you (40 points and net front presence) is a bargain. Shattenkirk as a bottom pair D is at worst a wash with Clifton. Brown and Megna are JAGs, but they're just here to be role players. Nobody in those spots was gonna be a brand name guy. Geekie is 24, is BIG and has upside, hence the extra year. They are gonna have a drop in talent for sure, but a sneaky improvement here is getting some bigger guys who will play in the paint. JVR has made a career out of this and it should be welcomed.
The guys they got are serviceable. The Bruins brass isn't pretending these guys are gonna lead them to a Cup, but they'll fill in decently enough until they can make bigger moves next year.
As for accepting that the Bruins are going to suck. Look, we're all really spoiled by the last 15+ years. Even the down years were 1 point playoff misses and they quickly retooled and were back in the finals by 2019. The overreaction to this offseason (yes, even from you who IMO should know better), is exemplary of just how spoiled we've gotten. With that said they are essentially running back the same D and best goalie tandem in the NHL that got them 135 points. They obviously are losing a lot up front but still have a 60 goal scorer and at least a point per game elite LW along with a very competent 2nd tier of forwards in Debrusk, Zacha & Coyle. JVR should complement them nicely and they have some legit AHL talent who could make an impact in guys like Merkulov & Beecher. Oh and they conveniently left cap space that could allow a guy like Bergeron to slot in nicely midway through the season so even losing him isn't a given.
I think they will push for a wild card spot, and I think their WC competition is such that they'll have a good chance of securing one. From there anything can happen as we saw with the Panthers. They'll also be pretty well positioned at the deadline so they could, for example, go after a guy like Elias Lindholm and have plenty of room to extend him if they want.
So yeah I think this year is going to "suck" compared to the last 5 years of contending, but in the grand scheme of things they still have a great D & G group, some elite forwards, loads of experience and now tons of flexibility. So I just can't bring myself to get bent out of shape any more. Losing that series was as low as I am able to get on the Bruins in 2023. Losing out on Tyler Bertuzzi barely moves the needle for me.
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