Former Bruins Tyler Bertuzzi

[13Hockey]

Who is that?

Bertuzzi and Clifton

 

[False Start]

Another thing that's being lost with this Bertuzzi (non) signing is that for the Bs he'd at worst became a valuable deadline trade chip at that salary without any years tacked on. We just saw him get a first in that exact situation!

A trade chip with an NMC?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Matthews has 1 year left in his contract and Marner has 2. I'm actually surprised he went to the Leafs but I guess I didn't really care. I'm curious what Sweeney offered/said to him.

For what it's worth, 98.5 this morning said the B's offered 4 x 5m.

 

[TCB]

Who is that?

Bertuzzi and Clifton

 

[FU Shoresy]

For what it's worth, 98.5 this morning said the B's offered 4 x 5m.

That would of been a good deal for the B's. With the flat cap this year. I'm sure he's thinking he can make more next year in free agency. When the cap's expected to increase a good amount.

 

[EverettMike]

A trade chip with an NMC?

Nobody with a NMC clause has ever been traded before. Good point.

In less snark related responses, maybe if they give him 5.75 he only gets a limited NTC. 6.0? None at all.

Point is, as much as I think he's really overrated (not bad, just overrated), a one-year deal was amazing for a team that wants to make the playoffs but might miss it.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Sorry to see him go, especially to the Leafs, but not seriously concerned about it. He did have some chemistry with Pasta but we're not talking about a piece that would put you over the top. Loved his energy and persistence on the ice but he isn't a "difference maker". As many have referenced already, he did make a ton of defensive zone mistakes in his time here. I don't want this to be construed as kicking him on the way out because he did provide an offensive lift to the team while he was here. That said, he isn't a 30 goal scorer in my opinion and honestly really falls somewhere between a second and third liner. Apparently the rest of the NHL saw it that way as well because if he was truly a hot commodity he wouldn't be settling for one year. Obviously his agent did a terrible job of "reading the room" and put him between a rock and a hard place. First thing I would do if I was him is to get a new agent, second thing I would do is plan on helping the Leafs continue their losing tradition because that's the hand he is now dealt.

We won't know if he was a difference maker because so many key players sucked because they choked and\or sucked because they were injured. If Hall and Bertuzzi
sucked like so many others did Boston wouldn't have gone up 3-1 for certain.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Either way they would have had to move players to fit him in, but I dont see where it makes sense to do it for him for a one year deal, vs doing to for a deal with term.

Would you be fine if they attached an asset to Forbort or traded Gryz for peanuts or Ullmark in a saturated goalie market to bring in a guy for one year and then he leaves?

I just dont see how the 1 year deal makes sense for them, but maybe I'm seeing the picture wrong here

They could have kept Hall and avoided that one year scenario. Hall wanted to be here
and was a good soldier. What is the point of keeping Gryz after you benched him 2 years in a row. Also, this bent over stuff gets way exaggerated. If a team truly values
Gryz, they aren't saying no because Sweeney won't let himself get bent over.

Agreed. When you heard after awhile he was still settling in and such…..meh…..hate to see him go but we have seen moves like this backfire on a player around the league before. Nothing personal but he had better be ready to tell everyone what he’s eating everyday with the loons in the TO media. And still with this the Leafs will struggle to make it past round one

By the time the PO start in '24, Boston will not have won a round in 3 years.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Another thing that's being lost with this Bertuzzi (non) signing is that for the Bs he'd at worst became a valuable deadline trade chip at that salary without any years tacked on. We just saw him get a first in that exact situation!

He isn't the only player in that spot. Ullmark also right?

They can always sign him next year.

Everyone will cost more next year.

 

[McGarnagle]

He isn't the only player in that spot.

Everyone will cost more next year.

People haven't been taking this seriously enough. They just hear that the cap is going up by a lot and think then you just have this extra space where you can sign a Bertuzzi and a Hall at $5.5 each. In reality of the market, if the cap goes up by 15%, then free agents' market values rise accordingly so a Bertuzzi is going to be worth at least $6.32. The extra cap will be helpful to the Bruins but it also doesn't mean they're going to have a shopping spree.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

But they will get JVR and Shattenkirk for 1.15M, right?

 

[PB37]

I have no issues with the Bruins moving on from Bertuzzi after their offer was turned down.

It's cool he circled back around when the market wasn't what he thought he would be but the Bruins carried on with Plan B, as they should this time of year.

I guess their hope is that JVR can be a 1 year cheap and reasonable facsimile of Bertuzzi around the net. No Hall replacement yet, but maybe that's where they think the kids might be up for taking a job. I'm on board with the Tarasenko rumor but I don't know if he'll be looking for a cheap deal.

I don't think the Bruins have the cash or the assets to land Elias Lindholm at this juncture - I think their best hope is that he goes to free agency next year and Lucic sweet talks Boston up to him while the team offers him a long term deal.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Bertuzzi and Clifton

Thanks, I didn't recognize Cliffy!

 

[DKH]

This confuses me as well. I’m a big bertuzzi fan after the way he played in the playoffs. Sure he had some poor defensive plays, one beyond glaring one. But he never took a shift off. He drove that line in the playoffs.

Very fun player to watch, unmatched hustle every shift and had a little snarl to his game. Elevated even more as the lights got bigger. Something this bruins team has desperately lacked in the playoffs for the better part of a decade.

The Bruins offered him ‘something close to the Hall contract’ and his agent walked away

Ty said probably 4 years at 5 M. My bud said before FA started last Thursday $5.5 M.

Actually doesn’t matter 5 or 5.5 because it’s reported the money per year was fine but term not

Agent wanted 7 but moves to 6 doesn’t get goes into FA

Finds he can’t get it and circles bsck to Boston yesterday- by then they had made their non Bertuzzi contingency plan

He’s nuts to not take 20-24 M in a place he did well with teammates that liked him and had chemistry

Maybe in the end it works out better for him but there is now unknown and moving again

I’m sure Toronto has a plan and maybe already taken care of but they are 7-9 M over top someone said ?

That can’t be true

 

[Gee Wally]

The Bruins offered him ‘something close to the Hall contract’ and his agent walked away

Ty said probably 4 years at 5 M. My bud said before FA started last Thursday $5.5 M.

Actually doesn’t matter 5 or 5.5 because it’s reported the money per year was fine but term not

Agent wanted 7 but moves to 6 doesn’t get goes into FA

Finds he can’t get it and circles bsck to Boston yesterday- by then they had made their non Bertuzzi contingency plan

He’s nuts to not take 20-24 M in a place he did well with teammates that liked him and had chemistry

Maybe in the end it works out better for him but there is now unknown and moving again

I’m sure Toronto has a plan and maybe already taken care of but they are 7-9 M over top someone said ?

That can’t be true

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so they need to do some subtraction by opening night.

 

[DKH]

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so they need to do some subtraction by opening night.

I already have Hanifin & Nylander in the Bruins 24 July 1 pick 2 FA

I guess they could get Nylander now I could pick a center

Nylander is such a layup to Boston if he hits FA and Pastrnak will be Sweeneys best recruiter

Nylander not enough still need to move another center

Leafs getting out of this will be fascinating

However they had to know something

The Bruins and Tampa losing players has Toronto & Carolina losing their minds as many of their stars enter last year of FA

We could be seeing the last great run of both these teams if you study Cap Friendly

Going to make the Bruins problems this offseason look minor

 

[CDJ]

Nobody with a NMC clause has ever been traded before. Good point.

In less snark related responses, maybe if they give him 5.75 he only gets a limited NTC. 6.0? None at all.

Point is, as much as I think he's really overrated (not bad, just overrated), a one-year deal was amazing for a team that wants to make the playoffs but might miss it.

Would’ve been great to bring back for a year but why would he want to rebuild his value next to Zacha/Pasta instead of Matthews/Marner? I would imagine we would have needed to outbid them once they got involved and quite frankly they’re not in a position to be outbidding anybody. They would need to clear out money or let good young assets go to bring him in- what’s the point of doing that if you’re not a true cup contender? You said it yourself- they might miss the playoffs. Bertuzzi isn’t putting next years team over the top, he didn’t put them over the top when it was a stacked roster. So why surrender assets to bring him in? It’s pointless for a year.

4 years would have been the perfect term but I can see why Bertuzzi wouldn’t want to hit FA again when he’s 32 and on the decline when he can just wait a year, stack some #’s up, and get a lucrative deal that will take him to 35 next off-season

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

For what it's worth, 98.5 this morning said the B's offered 4 x 5m.

Figures.

 

[TCB]

 

[Gee Wally]

risk of one year versus huge reward ufa next year by racking up Matthews/ Marner associated points.

 

[EverettMike]

risk of one year versus huge reward ufa next year by racking up Matthews/ Marner associated points.

He also just needs one season to show he can remain healthy. If he can't he probably still gets the same offers he did this year, so it's not a big deal.

I know some people think his agent f***ed up, but even if he misread the market this deal makes a lot of sense to try and increase it.

Probably going to show up in the best shape of his stupid life.

 

[rocketdan9]

He wont be as good offensively in a different uniform. Defensive game will also suffer.

Not worried. I dislike the Orlov/Canes signing more.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I have no issues with the Bruins moving on from Bertuzzi after their offer was turned down.

It's cool he circled back around when the market wasn't what he thought he would be but the Bruins carried on with Plan B, as they should this time of year.

I guess their hope is that JVR can be a 1 year cheap and reasonable facsimile of Bertuzzi around the net. No Hall replacement yet, but maybe that's where they think the kids might be up for taking a job. I'm on board with the Tarasenko rumor but I don't know if he'll be looking for a cheap deal.

I don't think the Bruins have the cash or the assets to land Elias Lindholm at this juncture - I think their best hope is that he goes to free agency next year and Lucic sweet talks Boston up to him while the team offers him a long term deal.

Thing I don’t get is if they were going to give Bertuzzi 5.5 million,that wouldn’t have left them with much to fill the other roster open spots ,maybe 6.5 million to sign 6-7 players including Swayman,so have to think Sweeney was moving someone under contract,so why not still give Bertuzzi the same contract or even the one year,unless he decided Toronto was his better option.

 

[Gee Wally]

Thing I don’t get is if they were going to give Bertuzzi 5.5 million,that wouldn’t have left them with much to fill the other roster open spots ,maybe 6.5 million to sign 6-7 players including Swayman,so have to think Sweeney was moving someone under contract,so why not still give Bertuzzi the same contract or even the one year,unless he decided Toronto was his better option.

my guess is that with Leafs fire power he figures on a career points season. Cash in next off season.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

my guess is that with Leafs fire power he figures on a career points season. Cash in next off season.

Yeah my thinking also ,but would like to know who Sweeney was planning on moving to be able to sign Bertuzzi .