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Bottomshelf said:
Who on Laval this year needs to clear (Waivers) to get back there next year?
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Under NHL contract, will need waivers:
Primeau
Condotta

RFAs (will need waivers if re-signed):
Farrell
RHP
Trudeau
Simoneau
Lindstrom
Hoefenmayer

UFAs (will need waivers if re-signed):
Barré-Boulet
Gignac

Current Rockets under NHL contract for 25-26 who continue to be waiver-exempt:
Tuch
Mailloux
Davidson
Kidney
Roy
Kapanen
Beck
F. Xhekaj
Engstrom
Mesar
Reinbacher
Fowler
Thorpe

Habs under contract for 25-26 who can be sent down without waivers:
Hutson
Dobes
Demidov (but has KHL clause)

AHL contracts valid for 25-26 (no waivers needed):
Dauphin
Arseneau
Guriunov
Dunlap
Dineen
Mianscum

plus any new or extended AHL contracts to come.

It should be noted that guys on AHL contracts can legally be signed by an
NHL team and lost, but this almost never happens.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Under contract:
Primeau
Condotta

RFAs (if re-signed):
Farrell
RHP
Trudeau
Simoneau
Lindstrom
Hoefenmayer

UFAs (if re-signed)
Barré-Boulet
Gignac
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gotta figure both Primeau and Farrell will be big candidates for waiver pick up if they don't make the team out of camp. Hopefully KH can time it well enough to get them through... would be great to have them both back with the organization next season (if we don't manage to trade them).
 
Miller Time said:
gotta figure both Primeau and Farrell will be big candidates for waiver pick up if they don't make the team out of camp. Hopefully KH can time it well enough to get them through... would be great to have them both back with the organization next season (if we don't manage to trade them).
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If either get claimed, they need to be on the claiming team's NHL roster so I am not sure if they won't clear. Hopefully they can find a couple more like Wotherspoon and Dauphin content to play on AHL deals in a big city and not need to worry about waivers. The ones who left for 'opportunity", never did get it in other organizations. This might influence guys like Trudeau to stick around on an AHL deal if the money is good, and they get stability.
 
Miller Time said:
gotta figure both Primeau and Farrell will be big candidates for waiver pick up if they don't make the team out of camp. Hopefully KH can time it well enough to get them through... would be great to have them both back with the organization next season (if we don't manage to trade them).
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Really don't think there's much risk for Farrell. I don't see a team locking a NHL roster spot for him.

Primeau could be claimed if a team has a goalie injury at camp, but not that stressed about it as he would come back when the team get their goalie back.
 
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There is a high probability Primeau gets traded instead of lost on waivers and Fowler becomes defacto no1. The bigger issue is who is Fowlers back up. This season Hughes was a sieve and at 28, he's no longer "developing". I don't know if Volokhin, Miller or any other Habs G prospect can fill in the AHL.
 
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Treb said:
Really don't think there's much risk for Farrell. I don't see a team locking a NHL roster spot for him.

Primeau could be claimed if a team has a goalie injury at camp, but not that stressed about it as he would come back when the team get their goalie back.
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I'm not sure why some people are high on Farrell or why the Habs even drafted him. it's pretty clear that it's war in the playoffs and unless a smaller player has elite skills, or at least a few elite skills, it's going to be pretty tough to make it in the NHL.
 
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HabsAddict said:
I'm not sure why some people are high on Farrell or why the Habs even drafted him. it's pretty clear that it's war in the playoffs and unless a smaller player has elite skills, or at least a few elite skills, it's going to be pretty tough to make it in the NHL.
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If he was a 1st rounder, sure.

As a 4th rounder, he's one of the type of guys you should go for hoping he booms. He had a nice progression post-draft until he hit the pros (and even then it's not that bad). I'd say it's not over for him yet.

I feel like you're being pretty dismissive of a guy who made the US WC team twice (and the NHL depleted OG team too).

If you never bet on the small guy in the mid/late rounds, you're going to miss most of the boom prospects.

You need to go for both the Xhekaj's and the Farrell's and hope a few of them turn out good.
 
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HabsAddict said:
I'm not sure why some people are high on Farrell or why the Habs even drafted him. it's pretty clear that it's war in the playoffs and unless a smaller player has elite skills, or at least a few elite skills, it's going to be pretty tough to make it in the NHL.
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He does have elite playmaking skills, and by several accounts, his off ice approach to the craft is excellent as well.

If he had the physical tools to match he'd already be tearing up the NHL.

Habs saw probably exactly what has played out in picking him with the last pick of the 4th round... An undersized player that had the intangibles to succeed as a pro... He's already surpassed most forwards drafted in the 3-4th round, many from the 2nd, and even a few from the 1st round in his draft class (as far as his pro hockey level of play to date).

Wether or not he continues to ride this development curve to NHL regular, or plateaus at AHL all star caliber, remains to be seen.

While a guy like Tuch, for the reasons you point out, is more likely to make it in the NHL, if Farrell does, it'll be as a considerably better player.
 
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Treb said:
Really don't think there's much risk for Farrell. I don't see a team locking a NHL roster spot for him.

Primeau could be claimed if a team has a goalie injury at camp, but not that stressed about it as he would come back when the team get their goalie back.
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Farrel has really upped his compete level and passed Joshua Roy on the depth chart for offensive replacements, in my opinion.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Farrel has really upped his compete level and passed Joshua Roy on the depth chart for offensive replacements, in my opinion.
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Honestly, in Farrell's case, I wouldnt want another sub 6 ft in our top 9. We already have a Caufield, Newhook and Gallagher and thats enough. I am not against small player, but a lot of those become useless during playoff
 
Hins77 said:
Honestly, in Farrell's case, I wouldnt want another sub 6 ft in our top 9. We already have a Caufield, Newhook and Gallagher and thats enough. I am not against small player, but a lot of those become useless during playoff
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Newhook is not really small. He weighs more than Matheson and almost as much as Guhle.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
Newhook is not realy small. He weighs more than Matheson and almost as much as Guhle.
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Maybe but small player have less reach most of the time, and they are less strong during puck battle/along the board. Slaf win every puck battle. He is 6ft 3 230 lbs. thats why.
Height is important. I'm sure Kent Hugues is calling another GM to make a trade about Farrell. The first thing the other GM is gonna look is the height and weight of Farrell. I am sure at 100%. And im going to be honest with you. A 5ft 8 player is really not excitting to any GM. Unless he is production is David Desharnaisque. And the 2nd thing after he is looking about this is his stats. Good teams are build with bigger player. Thats all
 
Treb said:
He will be waived at the same time as dozens of other players. This is more of a fantasy scenario than anything.
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OK, what would you do with Farrell? He is not eligible for offer sheet.

Do you let him walk?

If you want him in Laval, do you offer him a one-year 2-way deal? If so, do you give him an interesting AHL salary, and perhaps a guaranteed total? Something like $350k / $375k?

Or do you only give him an AHL deal? He's kind of young for that.
 
BaseballCoach said:
OK, what would you do with Farrell? He is not eligible for offer sheet.

Do you let him walk?

If you want him in Laval, do you offer him a one-year 2-way deal? If so, do you give him an interesting AHL salary, and perhaps a guaranteed total? Something like $350k / $375k?

Or do you only give him an AHL deal? He's kind of young for that.
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They will qualify and extend Farrell.

He will have an opportunity to make the Habs out of camp or get waived back to the AHL next year where he can continue to develop and earn call-ups.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
They will qualify and extend Farrell.

He will have an opportunity to make the Habs out of camp or get waived back to the AHL next year where he can continue to develop and earn call-ups.
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I'd be fine with that. Usually guys like that on 2nd contracts with good AHL stats get higher than minimum AHL salaries.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
OK, what would you do with Farrell? He is not eligible for offer sheet.

Do you let him walk?

If you want him in Laval, do you offer him a one-year 2-way deal? If so, do you give him an interesting AHL salary, and perhaps a guaranteed total? Something like $350k / $375k?

Or do you only give him an AHL deal? He's kind of young for that.
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This is such an overthinking post.

He will get his QO and sign a new 2-way deal. He won't get a big AHL salary either. Just classic prospect stuff. His situation isn't special.
 
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