Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - V - warning in OP

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Did anyone actually think he had a bad game? Thought he was excellent.

 

[TimThomas24]

I definitely wouldn’t say he was excellent. Thought he was okay.

 

[BruinDust]

Did anyone actually think he had a bad game? Thought he was excellent.

He made some huge saves at the end to keep them in it.

Overall a solid game. That Marner goal was a tremendously skilled play, spinning back-hand off the far post and in. Impossible to read that shot.

 

[AK37]

People blaming Rask need to open their eyes and watch the actual plays that lead to most of these goals

Both goals tonight came off defensive zone turnovers where if we control the puck those goals never happen.
How many breakaways or odd man rushes have we given up this series?
How many goals were put home by a guy standing in front of the net?

Blaming any goalie in these situations is such a short sighted analysis

 

[ODAAT]

He made some huge saves at the end to keep them in it.

Overall a solid game. That Marner goal was a tremendously skilled play, spinning back-hand off the far post and in. Impossible to read that shot.

not sure I can make that move on Xbox, Tuukka did his job, his teammates didn`t, simple as that. He`s had one game where I would say he played poorly and he said it himself about game 5 and even then, constant breakdowns in front of him, other than that, he`s been anything but the problem

 

[DKH]

Rask got an A from me last night

One a backhander which you have to hope misses or hits you the other on 63 and the D

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Apparently only Rask had the stand up and finish this thing off mentally last night.

 

[ODAAT]

Rask got an A from me last night

One a backhander which you have to hope misses or hits you the other on 63 and the D

yep, and as we all know, come playoff time, that margin for error is miniscule

 

[MAINE-IAC]

Did anyone actually think he had a bad game? Thought he was excellent.

I will admit I was a little frustrated with rask in the first half of the game. Andersen was standing on his head and it seemed like what little chances Toronto had they would score. However tuukka had a solid game. He gave them a chance to win and actually was rock solid in the third. This game should not have been close. They can't put the puck in the net.

 

[Hali33]

Rask was outstanding in the third, far and away their best player. If he was that guy the whole game, at minimum they make it to OT and have a chance for a miracle. We are not talking about a game where there was nowhere for him to improve, nothing he could have done.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Rask was outstanding in the third, far and away their best player. If he was that guy the whole game, at minimum they make it to OT and have a chance for a miracle. We are not talking about a game where there was nowhere for him to improve, nothing he could have done.

Short of pitching a shutout.....which is exactly what he did for 2 and a half periods.....there really wasn't much more he could've done. Neither goal was a softie and both came off embarrassing defensive breakdowns.

Just like seasons past, folks will blame Tuukka when the Bruins as a team forget how to score in crunch time. Sucks.

 

[LouJersey]

People blaming Rask need to open their eyes and watch the actual plays that lead to most of these goals

Both goals tonight came off defensive zone turnovers where if we control the puck those goals never happen.
How many breakaways or odd man rushes have we given up this series?
How many goals were put home by a guy standing in front of the net?

Blaming any goalie in these situations is such a short sighted analysis

I think he's played great overall but I will still say he has to play that first goal better. You have to freeze the puck for a whistle there. Slow it down.

 

[Hali33]

Short of pitching a shutout.....which is exactly what he did for 2 and a half periods.....there really wasn't much more he could've done. Neither goal was a softie and both came off embarrassing defensive breakdowns.

Just like seasons past, folks will blame Tuukka when the Bruins as a team forget how to score in crunch time. Sucks.

It’s a different feeling for me if it’s a 2-1 game where there’s nothing he could have done. He misplayed the puck on the first goal. Less than a minute after taking the lead. Off his angle on the second. I look at those 10 bell saves he made in the third and there’s no question he could have one of those. Cassidy is right on that.

Any goalie should have more goal support than that but sometimes you have to be the hero. Sometimes that’s what it comes down to and that’s the job. I look at this game and he actually could have done it, at least to OT even if he shouldn’t have HAD to.

 

[Seidenbergy]

It’s a different feeling for me if it’s a 2-1 game where there’s nothing he could have done. He misplayed the puck on the first goal. Off his angle on the second. I look at those 10 bell saves he made in the third and there’s no question he could have one of those. Cassidy is right on that.

Any goalie should have more goal support than that but sometimes you have to be the hero. Sometimes that’s what it comes down to and that’s the job. I look at this game and he actually could have done it, at least to OT.

He may have mis-played the puck, but there were still three Bruins that could've done something there with it. Instead, they handled it like a freaking grenade and once again forgot how to play D. And I'm going to disagree with the "off angle on the second" comment, given that it was a bang-bang wraparound backhanded shot. If he saves that one, it's more luck than skill. The other guys get paid too.

We seem to be venturing into the "all goals are technically save-able" world here. While technically true, it's a tad dishonest to debate anything using that logic.

The Bruins once again forgot how to score in a knockout game. It'll go on Tuukka's record, and the usual suspects are dancing with glee this morning because of that, but it was FAR from his fault they lost. DeBrusk and "first period" Rick Nash were probably the only two other guys that I'd even hear an argument for in terms of guys that played as well or better than Rask last night for the Bs.

 

[LouJersey]

He may have mis-played the puck, but there were still three Bruins that could've done something there with it. Instead, they handled it like a freaking grenade and once again forgot how to play D. And I'm going to disagree with the "off angle on the second" comment, given that it was a bang-bang wraparound backhanded shot. If he saves that one, it's more luck than skill. The other guys get paid too.

We seem to be venturing into the "all goals are technically save-able" world here. While technically true, it's a tad dishonest to debate anything using that logic.

The Bruins once again forgot how to score in a knockout game. It'll go on Tuukka's record, and the usual suspects are dancing with glee this morning because of that, but it was FAR from his fault they lost. DeBrusk and "first period" Rick Nash were probably the only two other guys that I'd even hear an argument for in terms of guys that played as well or better than Rask last night for the Bs.

Would be nice if he could pull a Fleury for us though.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Would be nice if he could pull a Fleury for us though.

so have a 3+ GAA ?

 

[LouJersey]

so have a 3+ GAA ?

I'm sorry, meant the Vegas version, I thought that was understood. I realize asking your goalie to get a shutout is frowned upon in these parts.

 

[Hali33]

He may have mis-played the puck, but there were still three Bruins that could've done something there with it. Instead, they handled it like a freaking grenade and once again forgot how to play D. And I'm going to disagree with the "off angle on the second" comment, given that it was a bang-bang wraparound backhanded shot. If he saves that one, it's more luck than skill. The other guys get paid too.

We seem to be venturing into the "all goals are technically save-able" world here. While technically true, it's a tad dishonest to debate anything using that logic.

The Bruins once again forgot how to score in a knockout game. It'll go on Tuukka's record, and the usual suspects are dancing with glee this morning because of that, but it was FAR from his fault they lost. DeBrusk and "first period" Rick Nash were probably the only two other guys that I'd even hear an argument for in terms of guys that played as well or better than Rask last night for the Bs.

While I don’t agree with the amount of goals people label “soft” or saveable, I also don’t agree with how many times he is apparently not responsible for a goal as long as someone else ****ed up.

I’ve like the way he’s played the series, except game 5 (and I’ve seen every goal defended or minimized in that one too, even when he wouldn’t defend his performance). Unless he bombs game 7, he’s not likely to be the first or second place I put the blame. He 100% kept them in this one in the third when they could have thrown their chance to tie it away entirely. But its the playoffs and a tight series. Sometimes it takes a shutout and a 2-1 goalie duel. And I think he could have done it in this one if it was a consistent game for him.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

While I don’t agree with the amount of goals people label “soft” or saveable, I also don’t agree with how many times he is apparently not responsible for a goal as long as someone else ****ed up.

I’ve like the way he’s played the series, except game 5 (and I’ve seen every goal defended or minimized in that one too, even when he wouldn’t defend his performance). Unless he bombs game 7, he’s not likely to be the first or second place I put the blame. He 100% kept them in this one in the third when they could have thrown their chance to tie it away entirely. But its the playoffs and a tight series. Sometimes it takes a shutout and a 2-1 goalie duel. And I think he could have done it in this one if it was a consistent game for him.

see Game 4

 

[LouJersey]

While I don’t agree with the amount of goals people label “soft” or saveable, I also don’t agree with how many times he is apparently not responsible for a goal as long as someone else ****ed up.

I’ve like the way he’s played the series, except game 5 (and I’ve seen every goal defended or minimized in that one too, even when he wouldn’t defend his performance). Unless he bombs game 7, he’s not likely to be the first or second place I put the blame. He 100% kept them in this one in the third when they could have thrown their chance to tie it away entirely. But its the playoffs and a tight series. Sometimes it takes a shutout and a 2-1 goalie duel. And I think he could have done it in this one if it was a consistent game for him.

Seems like this board is the only one that doesn't expect it's goalie to bail out a teammate after a turnover. Like he's the only goalie that's incapable of doing that. The first one was on him, sorry. Botched the dump, didn't communicate what he was doing and then gift wrapped that nylander goal with terrible rebound control. All 35 seconds after the Bruins finally scored. The second goal, terrible on Marchand, but again, it's not against the law to make a save there. I've actually seen it happen before.

I think he's a great goalie, and we are lucky to have him, but it's ok to call a spade a spade once in awhile.

 

[LouJersey]

see Game 4

So his quota is be great one game per series now?

 

[alg363636]

I get that he played the puck poorly on the first goal and that was disheartening

But Andersen gave up a softy on DeBrusks goal to give the Bruins the lead and what did the Leafs do?

They turned around and scored.

Bruins couldn't do that last night so they lost.

Tuukka and DeBrusk were the only guys who impressed me last night.

 

[Hali33]

see Game 4

I saw and he was phenomenal. Flat out stole it.

Saw the goalie on the other end of the ice do it more than once too. Even though it should never happen apparently.

 

[Hali33]

Seems like this board is the only one that doesn't expect it's goalie to bail out a teammate after a turnover. Like he's the only goalie that's incapable of doing that. The first one was on him, sorry. Botched the dump, didn't communicate what he was doing and then gift wrapped that nylander goal with terrible rebound control. All 35 seconds after the Bruins finally scored. The second goal, terrible on Marchand, but again, it's not against the law to make a save there. I've actually seen it happen before.

I think he's a great goalie, and we are lucky to have him, but it's ok to call a spade a spade once in awhile.

Well said.

 

[LouJersey]

I get that he played the puck poorly on the first goal and that was disheartening

But Andersen gave up a softy on DeBrusks goal to give the Bruins the lead and what did the Leafs do?

They turned around and scored.

Bruins couldn't do that last night so they lost.

Tuukka and DeBrusk were the only guys who impressed me last night.

Listen this series is not on Tuukka at all. He's not even on the list of issues. Team like Pitt and Wash wrapped it up by scoring 8 and 6 goals respectively. It's on the scorers, but sometimes, you have to have a timely shutout. Tim Thomas' most underrated game in 20011 was the 2-0 game 5 blanking of Tampa. Rask basically single handedly won the 2013 series vs NY and Pittsburgh. That's the guy we need right now, and it may not be "fair" or conventional, but these forwards are a mess right now.