Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - V - warning in OP

[LouJersey]

This shouldn't have to be the case EVERY GAME, but that seems to be what you expect. There are 18 other guys o n the ice whose job it is to put the puck in the net and they've been failing to do so.

He's been the best player once in six games. I'm asking him to be the best player in a clinching game. He's done it before

 

[BigGoalBrad]

First goal he was lazy and careless with the puck. Second I don't think he was ready for and he was off his angle. He looked lazy and lethargic for the first 40 minutes (tons of rebounds off easy shots).

In the third he looked like he had been given an adrenaline shot and kept them in it.

He wasn't the problem last night. But he wasn't the solution.

The Kadri screen on the first goal was perfect. Tough rebound to control thats in the D's hands hes only getting to the first one.

2nd goal was a phenomenal play by a good player. I get that backhands are expected to be stopped though.

We controlled play and were more physical but Rask stopped 4-5 chances that were far better than any we generated. Anderson doesn't stop those chances.

If he gives up 2 or less goals tomorrow its not on him if we lose. Even if he friggen shoots the puck in his own net twice.

 

[Widdlez]

I notice theres a sudden lack of interest in the boxscore in this threat

Normally after a loss if we're complaining about Rask lots of people will start quoting his save percentage..but not today. I wonder why that is.

 

[BobbyAwe]

Thomas, for all that glory, gave up 17 goals in that opening series vs the Habs (and 19 goals vs Tampa Bay)

Rask has given up 15 vs Toronto (behind what I assume we can all agree is a FAR worse defense than the 2011 unit).

Context.

Do you think we can win the cup this year, or maybe even win this series, if Rask doesn't play BETTER from now on? All I'm saying is he's capable of getting hotter and we need him to.

 

[EverettMike]

The Kadri screen on the first goal was perfect. Tough rebound to control thats in the D's hands hes only getting to the first one.

2nd goal was a phenomenal play by a good player. I get that backhands are expected to be stopped though.

We controlled play and were more physical but Rask stopped 4-5 chances that were far better than any we generated. Anderson doesn't stop those chances.

If he gives up 2 or less goals tomorrow its not on him if we lose. Even if he friggen shoots the puck in his own net twice.

The first goal started when he was lazy with the puck on a nothing dump in.

The second goal he was off his angle cause he wasn't ready, despite the puck never leaving the slot area.

 

[BiggioRainesHOF]

He's been the best player once in six games. I'm asking him to be the best player in a clinching game. He's done it before

But if he wasn't the best player in the game he already was, then we're talking about the Leafs/Lightning series or losses in clinching games because there wouldn't have been any.

If Bergeron's injury is such that he's playing at well less than 100%, then we're screwed, as most teams are when their best player gets hurt.

And if McAvoy and Chara have hit walls for contrasting reasons, we're REALLY screwed. The other defensemen we have are smallish puck movers and guys better suited to being your #6 and #8 D.

Excuses, Reality, call it whatchu want, haha.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Do you think we can win the cup this year, or maybe even win this series, if Rask doesn't play BETTER from now on? All I'm saying is he's capable of getting hotter and we need him to.

To be crystal clear: No, we can't win the Cup this year if Rask doesn't play better.

To take it one step further: he's not only going to have to play better, but he's going to have to play better than Thomas did in 2011.......unless the team around him magically wakes up.

 

[JRull86]

The Kadri screen on the first goal was perfect. Tough rebound to control thats in the D's hands hes only getting to the first one.

2nd goal was a phenomenal play by a good player. I get that backhands are expected to be stopped though.

We controlled play and were more physical but Rask stopped 4-5 chances that were far better than any we generated. Anderson doesn't stop those chances.

If he gives up 2 or less goals tomorrow its not on him if we lose. Even if he friggen shoots the puck in his own net twice.

If Rask doesn't made an absolutely terrible play on a dump in, that pressure never happens, and the goal most likely never happens. Not sure why all of a sudden it's the defense's fault when Rask literally pushed it into an area where no Bruin could get it.

 

[JRull86]

It's also really tiresome that people can't criticize the play of the goalie on this board without being labeled as a "Rask hater" or just generally accosted the second something negative is said.

I think Rask is a good goalie. Most of the hate he gets here is overboard, but he's absolutely allowed to be critcized when is warranted.

 

[Seidenbergy]

If Rask doesn't made an absolutely terrible play on a dump in, that pressure never happens, and the goal most likely never happens. Not sure why all of a sudden it's the defense's fault when Rask literally pushed it into an area where no Bruin could get it.

It was right to McAvoy.

32 seconds in:

 

[Emerz]

I am a fan of Rask but I swear this series he lets in a goal after we score on the first leafs shot when it's a close game everyyyy time

 

[NDiesel]

Seems like this board is the only one that doesn't expect it's goalie to bail out a teammate after a turnover. Like he's the only goalie that's incapable of doing that. The first one was on him, sorry. Botched the dump, didn't communicate what he was doing and then gift wrapped that nylander goal with terrible rebound control. All 35 seconds after the Bruins finally scored. The second goal, terrible on Marchand, but again, it's not against the law to make a save there. I've actually seen it happen before.

I think he's a great goalie, and we are lucky to have him, but it's ok to call a spade a spade once in awhile.

He does bail the players out, and he does deserve to be criticized sometimes. He's not perfect, no goalie ever was perfect nor will be.

On the other end, is it too much to ask the team to bail HIM out once in a while? They constantly play like garbage for the first 20 minutes and he has to try and keep the score manageable while they try to figure their shit out.

How many breakaways has he had to save this series? What about 2 on 1s? A LOT, it would be nice to see the team rally after some of his huge saves and bail his ass out.

 

[LouJersey]

He does bail the players out, and he does deserve to be criticized sometimes. He's not perfect, no goalie ever was perfect nor will be.

On the other end, is it too much to ask the team to bail HIM out once in a while? They constantly play like garbage for the first 20 minutes and he has to try and keep the score manageable while they try to figure their **** out.

How many breakaways has he had to save this series? What about 2 on 1s? A LOT, it would be nice to see the team rally after some of his huge saves and bail his ass out.

Absolutely agree. Like I said Rask is wayyyyyyyyy down the list with problems in this season.

 

[Seidenbergy]

It's also really tiresome that people can't criticize the play of the goalie on this board without being labeled as a "Rask hater" or just generally accosted the second something negative is said.

Ummmm, what!?! At least half of the posts in this thread are criticisms of Rask. We are on post 438. The last time someone called someone a hater in this thread was post 196.

What's tiresome is people literally making things up to further their own agenda.

 

[NDiesel]

If Rask doesn't made an absolutely terrible play on a dump in, that pressure never happens, and the goal most likely never happens. Not sure why all of a sudden it's the defense's fault when Rask literally pushed it into an area where no Bruin could get it.

Well I would call it more than just one persons fault - Rask with the big rebound and bad play on the dump in, but also why in the f*** was Nylander wide open like that? Someone has to tie his stick up or be aware he's coming in for the rebound.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

If Rask doesn't made an absolutely terrible play on a dump in, that pressure never happens, and the goal most likely never happens. Not sure why all of a sudden it's the defense's fault when Rask literally pushed it into an area where no Bruin could get it.

Chara watched it go right by without taking it down behind the net

McAvoy tried to start the breakout without having the puck and as a result made a weak wave at it instead of securing possession.

Could Rask have had more oomph on it? Yeah, but our top 2 defenders watched the puck trickle by without touching it before a Leaf took it.

That play was much more about the Bruins being passive and not attacking the 50/50 pucks than it was on Rask misplaying the puck

1:06 to 1:08 has it

 

[JRull86]

Ummmm, what!?! At least half of the posts in this thread are criticisms of Rask. We are on post 438. The last time someone called someone a hater in this thread was post 196.

What's tiresome is people literally making things up to further their own agenda.

Don't be so f***ing literal.

Every single thread about Rask goes like this:
Rask critcism > staunch Rask defender > counter point > "Rask hater" in some form > Rask praise > counter point that's usually overboard > "Rask hater" in some form > repeat

There's no agenda here. I'll criticize the play of a player when it's deserved, just as much as I'll praise the same player when it's deserved. I'm just tired of trying to have a discussion that's completely warranted, and seeing the same crap over and over.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Don't be so ****ing literal.

 

[LouJersey]

But if he wasn't the best player in the game he already was, then we're talking about the Leafs/Lightning series or losses in clinching games because there wouldn't have been any.

If Bergeron's injury is such that he's playing at well less than 100%, then we're screwed, as most teams are when their best player gets hurt.

And if McAvoy and Chara have hit walls for contrasting reasons, we're REALLY screwed. The other defensemen we have are smallish puck movers and guys better suited to being your #6 and #8 D.

Excuses, Reality, call it whatchu want, haha.

And then he gave it right back. 4 goals and a .692 sv pct the following game. His game three was pretty terrible too by his standards.

 

[LouJersey]

Chara watched it go right by without taking it down behind the net

McAvoy tried to start the breakout without having the puck and as a result made a weak wave at it instead of securing possession.

Could Rask have had more oomph on it? Yeah, but our top 2 defenders watched the puck trickle by without touching it before a Leaf took it.

That play was much more about the Bruins being passive and not attacking the 50/50 pucks than it was on Rask misplaying the puck

1:06 to 1:08 has it

here's a novel idea. Freeze the f***ing puck.

 

[JRull86]

k

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I swear to God, some people only see what they want to see when it comes to Rask.

 

[alg363636]

I am a fan of Rask but I swear this series he lets in a goal after we score on the first leafs shot when it's a close game everyyyy time

I'm not saying Rask isn't a big part of it but the team in general seems to sit back as soon as they score. I don't even they sit on the lead I mean the first shift after we score is always a shit show

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I'm not saying Rask isn't a big part of it but the team in general seems to sit back as soon as they score. I don't even they sit on the lead I mean the first shift after we score is always a **** show

it's like they're perpetually surprised a team that just got scored on responded with a push of their own.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

If Rask doesn't made an absolutely terrible play on a dump in, that pressure never happens, and the goal most likely never happens. Not sure why all of a sudden it's the defense's fault when Rask literally pushed it into an area where no Bruin could get it.

Hes awful at playing the puck. Did make one great play coming out of the net last night. I agree though it seems like the opponent gets 1-2 prime chances a game due to him misplaying the puck.