Proposal: Trouba Mega Thread Part VI

[cneely]

They were 25th last year. That's not a lot of movement. The Jets have made great strides in the farm like many/most teams that have been in the basement for a while.

I count 7 players on their roster who are either rookies or second year players.
Laine, Ehlers, Connor, Lowry, Morrissey, Hellebuyck, Tanev. They also have Dano, Armia, Petan, De Leo, Lemieux, etc. who are soon to make their mark. They haven't just built a farm team like many / most teams, aside from maybe Toronto and Edmonton, they have built a young team that is better than any. Will it show in eventual results? Who knows, but all we can say is that at this point, they have done a pretty remarkable job, and to say otherwise is disingenuous.

Florida is an attractive destination. Winnipeg is not as attractive and is made even less attractive if/when players who don't want to be there end up being forced to stay and miss entire seasons.

How attractive will Winnipeg be to their future RFA's if you set the precedent that you just have to whine and request a trade, and we'll accommodate you by taking pennies on the dollar.

 

[Coach Parker]

Something like Sergachev who lines up contract wise with Jets window, Desharnais for Lowry to keep MTL under the cap and maybe a 2nd as a kicker from MTL?

Sergachev < Trouba
Desharnais' contract < Lowry's Contract
2nd

Doesn't seem like a win for Winnipeg but a huge win for Montreal.

 

[cneely]

Sergachev < Trouba
Desharnais' contract < Lowry's Contract
2nd

Doesn't seem like a win for Winnipeg but a huge win for Montreal.

Sergachev's potential might make this intriguing, but it certainly doesn't help the Jets for the next few years.

 

[cneely]

Just a little outside of the box thinking here but given the player and demands:

What if Chevy and Sweeney have a deal (or any team for that matter) in place but the hold-up is once again Trouba who is now asking too much on his next contract from said team?

Trouba:

1. I want out.
2. I want to go to the USA.
3. I want to go to Detroit for 4.5 milion / year for 6 years.
4. I'll go to New York for 4.75 million / year for 5 years.
5. I'll go to Boston for 5.0 million / year for 5 years.

He still has the power to choose how much and for how long he will sign and perhaps Chevy has indeed stuck a deal with a team but the team hasn't agreed on a contract with Trouba.

If its true that one of the motivating factors is for his girlfriend to get into medical school, Boston may indeed be a very attractive destination. I hear there are a couple of decent schools in the area.

 

[jay from jersey]

hmm

They were 25th last year. That's not a lot of movement. The Jets have made great strides in the farm like many/most teams that have been in the basement for a while.

Florida is an attractive destination. Winnipeg is not as attractive and is made even less attractive if/when players who don't want to be there end up being forced to stay and miss entire seasons.

florida is also huge because you pay no state tax. Besides the weather, city, beach, and women money is always important.. The richest man in NJ Mr. tapper moved his hedge fund to FLA and cost jersey some jobs. I'm sure he will still have an office here but his head quaters is now in FLA because of taxes. It was a big reason Jagr who is a degenerate gambler chose the panthers. He has lost many millions gambling over his career and went to FLA to maximize his salary and not pay taxes. That is why you see a resurgence with the panthers and the lightning. Not only were they building their prospect pools while their teams were bad, they have since become an attractive UFA destination for players who want to maximize their contracts IMO. Callahan, starlman, jagr, stamkos, hedman etc etc. Now that they have become winners it is an even more enticing destination

 

[Stream*]

Wow lots of East coast haters with crap teams trying to get someone to be their best player on the cheap. I guess it is a slow day on the 1-800-ambulancechaser phone line.

 

[jay from jersey]

no

Wow lots of East coast haters with crap teams trying to get someone to be their best player on the cheap. I guess it is a slow day on the 1-800-ambulancechaser phone line.

he would not be more important then ludqvist, McD, or stepan

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If its true that one of the motivating factors is for his girlfriend to get into medical school, Boston may indeed be a very attractive destination. I hear there are a couple of decent schools in the area.

Some of the best medical schools in the US are also in/near NY also. Columbia, NYU, and Yale are all in the top 15 medical schools in the country. University of Michigan is also top 15 and not far from Detroit.

 

[larmex99]

he would not be more important then ludqvist, McD, or stepan

Yet!

 

[57special]

If its true that one of the motivating factors is for his girlfriend to get into medical school, Boston may indeed be a very attractive destination. I hear there are a couple of decent schools in the area.

So she can't get into a Canadian Medical school , but she can get into Harvard?

 

[Snowman]

The price of anything is defined by what people are willing to pay for it. You can mark a box of tissues at $100 but it's not worth $100 unless or until someone forks it over.

Exactly, and since that price is set by the Jets and no one can force the Jets to trade him for less. That is the price, no matter how much you hate hearing that and the Jets will not give anyone a bargain.

Just because you're only willing to pay $10 for a Ferrari, doesn't meant anyone is going to sell you one for that. That's how the price is defined, by the lowest possible offer the seller is willing to accept. I don't know why everyone has such trouble understanding this.

 

[cneely]

So she can't get into a Canadian Medical school , but she can get into Harvard?

It's my understanding that you can't get into a Canadian Medical School unless you are a citizen or permanent resident. I'm not an immigration expert, so I can't comment on how all of that works.

 

[jay from jersey]

lol

So she can't get into a Canadian Medical school , but she can get into Harvard?

don't worry lol if it got that far and he was a ranger dolans would offer harvard a 100 K donation for their library or something and she would be addmitted. cash makes the world go round and the dolans have a blank check book

 

[Snowman]

If I'm selling my house for 500k but the best offer I get is 350k then my house isn't really worth 500k. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. Or you don't sell your asset.

Finally, someone understands! The Jets set the price and if you don't like it, they won't be selling him to you. It only took what? 500 pages for someone to understand that.

 

[57special]

If its true that one of the motivating factors is for his girlfriend to get into medical school, Boston may indeed be a very attractive destination. I hear there are a couple of decent schools in the area.

So she can't get into a Canadian Medical school , but she can get into Harvard?

 

[Montecristo]

Finally, someone understands! The Jets set the price and if you don't like it, they won't be selling him to you. It only took what? 500 pages for someone to understand that.

people understand the price. But no one is willing to pay it. So at what point will the jets say, this player needs to be moved because he's not helping the team by not playing. Maybe the return won't help as much as he would have had he been playing but the return will help more than him on the bench.

When does jets management say that to themselves

 

[jay from jersey]

No

Finally, someone understands! The Jets set the price and if you don't like it, they won't be selling him to you. It only took what? 500 pages for someone to understand that.

this is a bad analogy. It should be more like you have a 500k house you can't live in. so you sell it for a 300k house and a 150k beach house. both can go up in value over time when the neighborhood builds up cause they are both young new houses. Might never be as nice as the 500 k house or in the long run they could both go up. the housing markets are crazy

 

[Coach Parker]

Where exactly is Trouba right now? Where is he sitting around training?

 

[KingDeathMetal]

If Kypreos is right that the WPG ask from BOS was Spooner, Carlo, and a 1st for Trouba, than the Rangers can beat that offer easily.

Not sure we want to at this point, the offense looks so good and the defense has been tolerable, and I'm more averse to trading JT Miller than I was. But for sake of argument, assuming Kypreos is reporting accurately (big assumption), then Zucc/Skjei/1st should get this done. Or Miller/Skjei. Again, not sure I really want to do that. If Trouba winds up signing for 1 year so he can play, and the trade talk stretches into Fall 2017, by that time Skjei alone could be worth Trouba. Or Miller alone. A lot can happen, and if I'm Jeff Gorton I just wait it out at this point. Really, all teams involved including WPG have the luxury of time.

 

[nyr__1994]

By who's account? Do you know for sure what he's asking for? Do you know what has actually been offered?



He absolutely is if he can wait another week and get the full dollar.

I don't know what has been asked for, and what has been offered, but don't you think that if what he was asking for was reasonable, a trade would have been made already.

 

[cneely]

Where exactly is Trouba right now? Where is he sitting around training?

Apparently working out at home in Detroit.

 

[cneely]

I don't know what has been asked for, and what has been offered, but don't you think that if what he was asking for was reasonable, a trade would have been made already.

Or other teams feel that because Chevy is behind the eight ball, they are making low ball offers. Who knows?

 

[cneely]

this is a bad analogy. It should be more like you have a 500k house you can't live in. so you sell it for a 300k house and a 150k beach house. both can go up in value over time when the neighborhood builds up cause they are both young new houses. Might never be as nice as the 500 k house or in the long run they could both go up. the housing markets are crazy

But you need somewhere to live right now, and the house is going through renovations and won't be ready for 2 years, and the beach house is just too small.

LOL. These analogies are getting out of hand...

 

[tbcwpg]

people understand the price. But no one is willing to pay it. So at what point will the jets say, this player needs to be moved because he's not helping the team by not playing. Maybe the return won't help as much as he would have had he been playing but the return will help more than him on the bench.

When does jets management say that to themselves

They say that to themselves when they are convinced that they won't have the problem with high profile RFAs wanting a trade to get out of Winnipeg, not a desirable market as compared to others in the leauge, when their first contract expires.

Right now they are weighing the return they would get for Trouba with setting the precedent that they will eventually cave with RFAs who want out. What happens if you trade Trouba by Dec 1 and then Laine does this in 3 years? His agent tells him that the Jets will move you if you pressure them so just sit a couple of months and you'll get what you want.

 

[Ishad]

It's my understanding that you can't get into a Canadian Medical School unless you are a citizen or permanent resident. I'm not an immigration expert, so I can't comment on how all of that works.

University of Manitoba College of Medicine does not accept international students. Seems there are a couples schools that do, but only a handful of applicants.