Proposal: Trouba Mega-Thread Part III
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How do you know that Trouba is not prepared to sit out the season?
He could actually hate Winnipeg that much
The thing is what you deem reasonable isn't what the Jets deem reasonable.
They have made an investment in Trouba and highly value him.
They want what they want to offset the loss of Trouba and that is reasonable to them.
Any team in this situation would try to maximize the return not settle.
He loses a year of pay and it takes a year more to get to UFA.
No matter how much he wants to leave, sitting only shoots himself in the foot.
Johnny HFBOARDS
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Kinda sick of the Trouba stuff, I hope he's gone and sits out a year.
His value will be the same no matter what after the fact. His blind sided trade request style really leaves a bad taste with some of his former teammates. There are to many players out there now that believe they are the next great thing when they aren't, players seem to want to ruin their teams before they even sniffed at winning something. These players have no Cups/Trophies/Bobble-heads, nothing and they want Super Top End money.
The best he can now hope for is that his career stays on track with E.Kane's.
He can get signed, play and pretend everything went as planed; Chevy can ship him off to an American city in the Jets best interest of course. Dude will always be trade bait and future teammates will be aware of his blind sided decision making.
His value will be the same no matter what after the fact. His blind sided trade request style really leaves a bad taste with some of his former teammates. There are to many players out there now that believe they are the next great thing when they aren't, players seem to want to ruin their teams before they even sniffed at winning something. These players have no Cups/Trophies/Bobble-heads, nothing and they want Super Top End money.
The best he can now hope for is that his career stays on track with E.Kane's.
He can get signed, play and pretend everything went as planed; Chevy can ship him off to an American city in the Jets best interest of course. Dude will always be trade bait and future teammates will be aware of his blind sided decision making.
He could be foolish for taking that and by the way, you are also making assumptions about what he will do; however, my assumption is more realistic since there is millions of dollars on the table.
Trouba's value is not that great until he signs a contract. The longer he holds out, likely the lower his contract. Once he signs, there is a much better chance he will be traded if he comes back and works hard showing his worth. Many things could happen over the next few months which result in the Jets getting 100 percent return.
For example, (please note that I am only using this as an example not that I am advocating for or against it)
The Ducks have two RFA they need to sign and have a self imposed internalcap. They are trying to open up cap space to sign both players; however, it is possible that they cannot comeup with the cash to sign both. The Jets get Trouba to sign a reasonable bridge and he comes back playing for the Jets, The ducks could decide that it is in their best interest to trade Hampus one for one (likely with another throw in from Winnipeg depending if they can swing the cap numbers) for Trouba in order to facilitate signing Rankell. They may give up a better defense man based on the straw poll here but they solve their cap issue today and gives them some room for the future. The Jets were going to pay Trouba anyways so it is a wash for them in a sense. This is just one example on how things could play out over the next few months especially if the ducks cannot sign both RFA's
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If he sits out this yr he will lose around 5 mil, we still have his rights for 4 yrs but he looses 1 yr of ufa at say 8 Mill so in total that adds up to 13 mil. You can only play so long we all age.
Because money talks. If he wants to give up millions of dollars to prove his point well that is a lot of hate. Not to mention the fact that his personal comments over the summer do not seem to jive with his current stance.
I think we can all agree that what he says in public is complete BS that is designed to make him look as good as possible to the people of Winnipeg and future employers (he hopes)
He may be leaving a ton of money on the table but if he truly wants out he may be willing to do that to get what he wants (doubt the Jets oblige him however)
Well, I am not sure about that.
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Again, IMO, the Trouba Camp are being unreasonable. Jacob's best trade move is/was a max deal with the Winnipeg Jets (something no other team can offer/ 8 years). This likely increases his possible suitors (while allowing Jacob to collect his pay), however they (the Trouba Camp) lose the ability to manipulate the final destination.
In the end, Trouba's situation, is nothing more than a long term injury to the Jets lineup (same effect, a player not playing). One can only hope that Jacob Trouba and those that are advising him, understand, that as an RFA you are indeed...'restricted'. Time will tell.
In the end, Trouba's situation, is nothing more than a long term injury to the Jets lineup (same effect, a player not playing). One can only hope that Jacob Trouba and those that are advising him, understand, that as an RFA you are indeed...'restricted'. Time will tell.
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I'd disagree. Any GM interested can talk to trouba and his agent since he's a RFA. They will know wether he will play for them and what his asking price is before they even talk to the Jets. Hell, in the right situation where he's gonna get big minutes and PP time he might bet on himself and take the bridge deal in order to get a huge deal in 2 years.
This is another way of doing it if you think Jets can't get quality for quality and have to settle for quantity. Jets throw in an NHL ready forward and trade Trouba for a good LHD. Jets add because obviously Trouba has issues.
He's been an RFA for exactly 3 months now and requested the trade back in May. I'm sure his agent has been talking to teams as well and there doesn't seem to be much interest in either his price or the Jets. One will have to give and its usually the team
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Playing hardball? What are you talking about..
This isn't about money, as has already been stated. The only statement made by the Jets was that Trouba is an important part of the future. There is literally nowhere for you to have sourced your statement from (except maybe from you know where.. )
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the year he would lose of UFA he would likely still get the 5mil as the final year of RFA, so 5+3=8
thats also assuming he doesnt sign in russia for 3 mil or something while he holds out, and he turns into a 8mil$ player (top 5 dman in the league) which I doubt
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I hate to brake it to you, trouba leaving is not about playing the left side or only wanting 7 mill. he wants out of winnipeg. he just can't come out and say it because he will be massacred by the media and fans. jets fans also have to come to the realization that they are not getting a number one LD on a sweet deal as a return. No team in the league is going to make another hole in their line up just to satisfy another need. Dougie hamilton will probably be the standard for a deal like this. Not saying this would happen, but as a NYR deal probably Skjei+2nd+3rd and some salary going back for trouba. or a 1st and roster player type deal like staal retained at maybe 4mill. I'm not saying it to be mean or that even NYR will get him, but this is the type of deal that usually happens and the team that trades the holdout is almost always upset with the return.. what was the return for kyle turris?? he had a lot of potential at the time of trade too. the longer this goes on the worse it is gona be for trouba, chevy,winnipeg, and the fans. It sucks for chevy because the best thing for him is to deal him, (to whoever). move on and use the assets to build the team going forward.. Also, there is no way they are letting him sit for the entire year out of spite. that would also be a disaster for all parties involved. You don't want a situation like this festering for an entire year, especially with a team full of young players. it sets up a bad aura. it's not like trouba is isolated on an island somewhere. he is in contact with his team mates and now the bad potato on the plate is out in the open for everyone to see and discuss . the best is to make a trade and put it behind you. if he has been working since december to trade him, it should be abundantly clear to chevy and the front office he is not getting a young stud LD for him if it didn't happen by now
I hate to brake it to you, trouba leaving is not about playing the left side or only wanting 7 mill. he wants out of winnipeg. he just can't come out and say it because he will be massacred by the media and fans. jets fans also have to come to the realization that they are not getting a number one LD on a sweet deal as a return. No team in the league is going to make another hole in their line up just to satisfy another need. Dougie hamilton will probably be the standard for a deal like this. Not saying this would happen, but as a NYR deal probably Skjei+2nd+3rd and some salary going back for trouba. or a 1st and roster player type deal like staal retained at maybe 4mill. I'm not saying it to be mean or that even NYR will get him, but this is the type of deal that usually happens and the team that trades the holdout is almost always upset with the return.. what was the return for kyle turris?? he had a lot of potential at the time of trade too. the longer this goes on the worse it is gona be for trouba, chevy,winnipeg, and the fans. It sucks for chevy because the best thing for him is to deal him, (to whoever). move on and use the assets to build the team going forward.. Also, there is no way they are letting him sit for the entire year out of spite. that would also be a disaster for all parties involved. You don't want a situation like this festering for an entire year, especially with a team full of young players. it sets up a bad aura. it's not like trouba is isolated on an island somewhere. he is in contact with his team mates and now the bad potato on the plate is out in the open for everyone to see and discuss . the best is to make a trade and put it behind you. if he has been working since december to trade him, it should be abundantly clear to chevy and the front office he is not getting a young stud LD for him if it didn't happen by now
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Gump Hasek
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Here we have an example of the sort of poster that views Trouba as if he exists within a vacuum. The Jets have 10 first round picks in their organization that are age-23 or younger; they can use one of those chips, or they can add a veteran or two in a move to further impact team culture and then replace that vet/s in-house. Winnipeg don't need to simply settle for NYR's leftovers and accept a downgrade. In fact, they are more likely to patiently find a team with something they'd actually want in a return and make it happen by adding a sweetener to Trouba.
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Trouba might see it like this is the cross roads of his career. If he leaves Winnipeg for a team that needs him more and will use him properly, he can turn into a top pairing Dman. If he stays with Winnipeg he may turn into an inconsistent D who plays up and down the lineup, and inevitably gets passed over. He could lose 5 million this year but gain all that back many times over by changing teams.
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