Trouba MASSIVE hit on Meier

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Clean hit.

Timo needs to keep his head up and not look at the puck skating over the blueline surrounded by 4 opposing players.
 
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How? Is Trouba supposed to morph into a hobbit so the point of contact is at Timo's hips?
If Trouba is incapable of adding any bend to his legs maybe he ought to not be medically cleared to play in this league.
 

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Whats even more concerning is that after Timo was literally KO'd and unable to move for a few seconds he was still allowed to play.

I don’t think he played another shift. He returned to the bench but didn’t touch the ice until it was time for a handshake line.
 
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Within the rules, but garbage in my opinion. Never a fan of a player trying to injure another player. But it looks like Trouba will have all summer off pretty soon anyway.
Yet that's what team's gameplans really are in the playoffs. To hit and wear down the opponents so that in 7 game serious you may get and edge against a sore/tired team.

Just so happens this hit was a real big one
 

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I don’t think he played another shift. He returned to the bench but didn’t touch the ice until it was time for a handshake line.
I think he had to go through concussion protocol and at that point when he returned it was already too late and made no sense.
 
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Devils fan... I'm not a fan of the hit but at least Trouba didn't do anything to make it worse (no elbow up, no jumping). I'm sure Scott Stevens had similar hits back in the days. It was dangerous, and I wouldn't even be surprised if it got reviewed, but I guess he tried to spark some life in his team. However f*** the couple of Rangers fans who hope Timo will be injured for round two.

(The rest of the Rangers fans, you've mostly been a decent bunch during those playoffs.)
 
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For all "the how could Trouba possibly have hit anything but Meier's head" folks in here. Meier and Raffl are the same height and Seider is taller than Trouba. Mo could have easily delivered shoulder to face a la Trouba had he wanted to. He chose not to and still blew up Raffl.
 

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I'm gonna agree with a lot of the assessment on the first page.

Trouba isn't head hunting here. He definitely comes off the bench looking to hit the puck carrier, so it is predatory. But, the arm is against the body and his skates remain on the ice. He doesn't launch upward through contact. He's in a braced-for-contact stance.

Meier is fighting to maintain possession of the puck as he crosses the blueline. He reaches for it last minute and loses sight of what's going on around him - likely never seeing Trouba come on the ice.

Principal point of contact seems face and crest, simultaneously, to me. It's incidental contact based on the rules. I do think the game has to worker harder to legislate head contact out of the game, but it won't be easy. Two players, skating 30kph, closing in on one another at a rate of 60kph. I can see scenarios, if any contact to head is deemed illegal, where attempts to miss the head will result in knee-on-knee collisions.
 

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Hipchecks and not being able to see anything?

Trouba could have caved in Meier's solar plexus/sternum. He chose to cave in his forehead instead. That's a choice Trouba made. And a choice that is exponentially more damaging. And a choice that should be taken away from him given what the league fully knows (but denies) about head trauma.


How exactly was he supposed to cave in his solar plexus/sternum in on this hit? Crouch down as low as he can go and explode upwards at the exact right moment to hit Timo's Sternum which is basically parralel to the ice?

Maybe he should have done some type of cool move where he changes direction in a flash and comes at Timo from the side. Some cool "C" shaped move.

Timo is skating with his head down and he is leaning very far forward. It is purely on him that he got destroyed there. Skate with your head up and learn your lesson. If he was off-limits for a hit on that play from the front he is off limits from pretty much anywhere. Just have everyone skating around like that and no one will be allowed to touch you.
 
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This was by no means a "clean" hit but as a Devils fan I had no problem with this not being called. This was old school Stevens stuff and Timo shouldn't be skating into 3 guys across the blue line with his head down. Having said that, I'm happy the Rangers are finally gone and so is their plug Captain Trouba, seeeeee ya.
 

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For all "the how could Trouba possibly have hit anything but Meier's head" folks in here. Meier and Raffl are the same height and Seider is taller than Trouba. Mo could have easily delivered shoulder to face a la Trouba had he wanted to. He chose not to and still blew up Raffl.

Raffl is standing straight up barely moving and slightly turned. Timo is skating very fast into the zone, crouched down and leaning forward. If this is your comparable you are either trolling or have never actually played contact hockey.
 

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If Trouba is incapable of adding any bend to his legs maybe he ought to not be medically cleared to play in this league.
Replace Trouba with a brick wall and Timo still ends up in the same situation. It's not Trouba's job to bend his knees to accommodate a player skating with his head down.

I still remember a hit thrown by Jason Doig many years ago against Lindros, who was skating along the boards with his head down. You can hear the players on the bench screaming heads up. Lindros got demolished that play and it was 100% on him for putting himself in that position.
 
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How exactly was he supposed to cave in his solar plexus/sternum in on this hit? Crouch down as low as he can go and explode upwards at the exact right moment to hit Timo's Sternum which is basically lateral to the ice?

Maybe he should have down some type of cool move where he changes direction in a flash and comes at Timo from the side. Some cool "C" shaped move.

Timo is skating with his head down and he is leaning very far forward. It is purely on him that he got destroyed there. Skate with your head up and learn your lesson. If he was off-limits for a hit on that play from the front he is off limits from pretty much anywhere. Just have everyone skating around like that and no one will be allowed to touch you.

Ever see Rob Blake hit anyone? Turn and insert ass into chest rather than shoulder into head.

Replace Trouba with a brick wall and Timo still ends up in the same situation. It's not Trouba's job to bend his knees to accommodate a player skating with his head down.

I still remember a hit thrown by Jason Doig many years ago against Lindros, who was skating along the boards with his head down. You can hear the players on the bench screaming heads up. Lindros got demolished that play and it was 100% on him for putting himself in that position.
It should be.
 

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It's a good hit. Relatedly, the term "predatory hit" is moronic.

Knew Trouba was gonna tag at least one player that series. Hopefully Timo is alright.
 
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Ever see Rob Blake hit anyone? Turn and insert ass into chest rather than shoulder into head.
Tell me....which of the following checks wouldn't have hit Timo in the head based on where TIMO'S HEAD was positioned. Trouba's ass probably would have caused more damage to the head if he threw the third hit in this video.

 
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So what are you saying he should do? Just let meier walk in with his head down?

Why arent the forwards to blame for skating with their heads down? Theyre lucky hes delivering clean hits

Further, meier’s landing on igors leg intentionally was 10X dirtier than this. And when meier keeps trying to go at your goalie but then has glue in his gloves when hes asked to go, when you can line him up, you nail him. Meier is a moron for skating with his head down into 4 players
It's possible to hit a player without launching your body upwards into his head. You can turn your body, brace for contact, and deliver a full-body hit, rather than loading up and launching upward, finishing with the elbow.

The fact that you're using some perceived transgression by Meier justify why this hit is okay is bit telling to me. It's okay if you don't agree with my assessment, though. It's a difference of opinion and what we value in the sport, we don't have to convince each other of anything.
 
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The league should really look at making this type of hit illegal. Anytime the head is a point of contact. I mean fifteen years ago Cooke on Marc Savard was legal then, too, and then they changed the rules for the better because it was a damn dangerous play. The days of Scott Stevens concussing multiple opponents per series wasn't really a time anyone remembers fondly.

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What do you guys want? A rule change?

Allow players the ability to skate hunched over and/or looking down knowing the other team can’t hit you and make head contact? And if they do you get a PP?

I’d have a team of midgets and every time they get hit “up high” I would bitch and complain about plater safety.

What is Trouba supposed to do here? Not hit him? Or snap his fingers and morph into a 14 year olds 5’2” body, and then check Timo? Dude’s 6’3”. Dmen should be able to use their size to their advantage. Trouba didn’t leave his feet, throw an elbow, or hit someone without the puck.

This is an open ice hit. Not from behind, or at an angle along the boards where you’re going to fracture someone’s neck.

Timo put himself in a stupid position. This is game 7 playoff hockey. Intensity is high. Keep your f***ing head up.

So many pansies here. Go drink your soy milk and eat your tofu and go watch volleyball or something. Hockey is obviously too violent for y’all. Can’t even differentiate a “clean, yet predatory hit” instead of a blatant penalty.
Such a manly post. Only feeding on meat and real milk, like a real man!

You also missed a golden opportunity to call us snowflakes.

I bet you own one of those lifted pickup trucks to compensate for the lack of size…
 

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It's possible to hit a player without launching your body upwards into his head. You can turn your body, brace for contact, and deliver a full-body hit, rather than loading up and launching upward, finishing with the elbow.

The fact that you're using some perceived transgression by Meier justify why this hit is okay is bit telling to me. It's okay if you don't agree with my assessment, though. It's a difference of opinion and what we value in the sport, we don't have to convince each other of anything.
That's a clean hit by NHL rules. 100% illegal in IIHF rules though.
 

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Hipchecks and not being able to see anything?

Trouba could have caved in Meier's solar plexus/sternum. He chose to cave in his forehead instead. That's a choice Trouba made. And a choice that is exponentially more damaging. And a choice that should be taken away from him given what the league fully knows (but denies) about head trauma.
Jesus. Have you ever played hockey? Or ANY contact sport?
 

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Tell me....which of the following checks wouldn't have hit Timo in the head based on where TIMO'S HEAD was positioned. Trouba's ass probably would have caused more damage to the head if he threw the third hit in this video.


Any of them? Trouba squaring up and bracing as high as possible is a choice he made. To say hitting anything but the head is impossible is fantasy.
 

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Trouba demolishes Timo's head. His head was going to be destroyued regardless if he glances at the puck or not. Trouba could've ducked down further or slightly hit him less square so the principal point of contact would not have been his head.

Of course, players sometimes put themselves in vulnerable positions, but the onus should be on the hitter to have some sort of perception of a players position and to change the area of impact and or force accordingly.

If the NHL continues to allow hits to the head they leave themselves exposed to lawsuits in the future.

Whats even more concerning is that after Timo was literally KO'd and unable to move for a few seconds he was still allowed to play.
Pretty sure he just sat on the bench, and did the handshake line.
 
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