Speculation: Trouba Contract Negotiations not close?

[Bryanbryoil]

All tournament games are being played at the ACC.

Thanks, even so unless he played incredibly I don't see him raising his value enough to warrant the risk.

 

[Kamiccolo]

But I thought he wasn't asking for a big contract Jets fans? Only been tons of insiders saying the same thing over and over for almost a year. This guy wants to be their #1 D which is fine, but he wants to be paid like one too. He's regressed into a #3 D from the top pairing one he was a few seasons ago.

I don't give him more than Rielly got, as Rielly is a better player.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Tons of insiders = one report from a local rag that national media latched onto before the agent came out and denied it. We don't know the particulars of the term or dollar value of the contract, or even the asks, so take your smug, condescending ass out of here with that ********.

He also hasn't regressed, as you guys constantly try to trot out like a favourite baby blanket that you don't want to get rid of. His scoring has tapered off, but that's mostly due to usage and lack of PP time, which is where defensemen get a lot of their points. That's the only facet of Reilly's game that he's better than Trouba at that you guys seem to care about.

So, if you have nothing else to add, then leave.

 

[Fourier]

Ideally we sign Trouba long term, but if you want to play:

Klef+

Or

Karrson+

Or

LD

McDavid wouldn't be on the table, but anything less then one of the above makes zero sense to the Jets and we could find better else where. Don't even bother offering picks or Eberle or Davidson or Nurse or Reinhart.

Larsson is at this point much better defensively than Trouba. Over the last two years at ES Larsson has 38 pts in 146 games to Trouba's 31s in 146 games. Larsson is also signed long term to a very team friendly deal. Your + is definitely on the wrong side of the equation at this point.

I don't think the Oilers would trade Klefbom for Trouba but given Klefbom's limited playing time there is no point trying to debate that one.

LD is a complete non-starter.

 

[BruinDust]

Tons of insiders = one report from a local rag that national media latched onto before the agent came out and denied it. We don't know the particulars of the term or dollar value of the contract, or even the asks, so take your smug, condescending ass out of here with that ********.

He also hasn't regressed, as you guys constantly try to trot out like a favourite baby blanket that you don't want to get rid of. His scoring has tapered off, but that's mostly due to usage and lack of PP time, which is where defensemen get a lot of their points. That's the only facet of Reilly's game that he's better than Trouba at that you guys seem to care about.

So, if you have nothing else to add, then leave.

We'll I guess that seals it.

Lock this one up folks.

 

[Hunter368]

So you think that another team will offer up their equivalent of Klefbom + or Larsson + or Draisaitl? Again that's wishful thinking.

Again your not reading or understanding my post.

Saying if the Oilers "didn't offer one of those deals" then we could find a better deal else where when compared to whatever the would be offering (if it wasn't one of those three deals). Understand now?

 

[ps241]

"I don't want to play with Mark "The Boat Anchor" Stuart as my partner anymore". I'm sure that's in there somewhere for their negotiations.

Yea the challenge has been Jacob is the only guy who can carry Stu on the Jets and we know the Jets have a weird obsession with Mark Stuart. I know Chevy isn't going to make promises on usage but the fan base with a mind has been jumping up and down with their hair in fire screaming the same thing. Trouba Buff has worked great with Toby and Myers as the second pair the problem is Stu kills the bottom pair the moment he plays with anyone other than Trouba and Mo or Huddy will have none of that????

I usually scoff at a lot of what Lawless has to say but I am guessing he is pretty close on this. It will be a tough Negociation but these things tend to work themselves out.

 

[ps241]

Yup, you can't have your cake and eat it too unfortunately. A trade is the only way out of this and Troubs is the one that will give us a premium. Time for a gutsy move from our seasoned GM. Just a case of economics 101 at this point.

Or they could play him on the top unit beside Buff like they did for a portion of last season which worked great? They aren't trading Trouba IMO.

 

[Maukkis]

What people are not (willing to) understanding is that ANY, and I mean ANY Trouba trade will not help us neither now nor in the future. It's just that simple. I'd rather pay him 6m+ long term, which he's probably asking for than trade him.

If we trade him, our defense is well and truly screwed. Two 30+ guys, a recovering Myers, Morrissey and his 1 game of NHL experience, and then scraps. That's what we would have. Three guys playing 25-30 minutes a night. The rest trying to stay alive.

If you are not willing to give us another Trouba, GTFO.

 

[bigd]

Yea the challenge has been Jacob is the only guy who can carry Stu on the Jets and we know the Jets have a weird obsession with Mark Stuart. I know Chevy isn't going to make promises on usage but the fan base with a mind has been jumping up and down with their hair in fire screaming the same thing. Trouba Buff has worked great with Toby and Myers as the second pair the problem is Stu kills the bottom pair the moment he plays with anyone other than Trouba and Mo or Huddy will have none of that????

I usually scoff at a lot of what Lawless has to say but I am guessing he is pretty close on this. It will be a tough Negociation but these things tend to work themselves out.

Honestly can't stand the trashing of Stuart by Jets fans. Show some class!

 

[Paul4587]

Arizona has only 2 real intressteing pieces as I see it, besides OEL, and that is Strome or Murphy, doubt Arizona wanna send any of those....

Trouba is better and has significantly more value than Murphy, Arizona would make that trade in a second.

 

[copernicanrevolution]

Honestly can't stand the trashing of Stuart by Jets fans. Show some class!

I mean, I'm sure he's a great guy. He's just not terribly good at ice hockey for a NHL player.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I would love to know how far apart they are... have both sides hit their limit of going up/down in talks but are 500,000 apart still per year? or are they like 2 mill apart per year still?... IMO I truly wouldn't doubt if Jets are the sane ones in these negotiations. I would assume Jets know the market for him would be 5-5.5 per year(when you look at comparables)... cause on the flip side I can see Trouba's camp weirdly asking a lot more than that.

I could be wrong but that is just my gut feeling... and I know the rumors were squashed last season but I still cant help but wonder if its true about Trouba camp demanding 7+ per year.

 

[AslanRH]

Disappointed there isn't some serious devaluing of the player here with comments like "he clearly wants out" and "since we are only trading for his RFA rights", etc. What is wrong with HF now days?!?!?

 

[Huffer]

Yawn. First week of August and a RFA hasn't signed yet.

Strange that Trouba seems to be the only unsigned RFA that seems to be discussed here though.

 

[TOGuy14]

How is this so difficult. Bunch of RFA guys just signed for 4-5M.

Rielly took 5M x 6 years, that should be roughly what Trouba gets.

 

[Gump Hasek]

Yawn. First week of August and a RFA hasn't signed yet.

Strange that Trouba seems to be the only unsigned RFA that seems to be discussed here though.

Exactly. Some funny comments in this thread are those about usage, as if it is a concern - despite that the player is top-2 on the team in TOI/EV and top-3 in TOI/60, considering those are phenomenal numbers for a D-man of his age, and that Maurice said he will play him on the top pair this season with Buff. So much for any usage issue. Hands down the funniest comments here refer to Mark Stuart though, as if Trouba is needed to hold the hand of a guy that in all likelihood is destined to sit in the pressbox this season. LOL

As you said, yawn.

 

[boredmale]

Is Trouba represented by Newport?

 

[lomiller1]

What do fans honestly feel is a fair contract?.. I would love to hear... I am saying no more than 5.25 over 5 - 6 years

And 5.25 is the very highest I'd go

5 years is terrible for the Jets. It buys only a single UFA year and escorts him to free agency.

Since both sides apparently want a long term deal it will be 6, 7 or 8 years. At 8 years he’ll get just no more than Scheifele’s 6.125 AAV, but likely a touch less, probably 8X6. 6 or 7 will be slightly less, something like 33-34 million over 6 or 40-41 million over 7.

 

[93LEAFS]

Is Trouba represented by Newport?

No, its Kurt Overhardt from KO Sports. They did rep Ryan Johansen though, which was a pro-longed affair and didn't end well. Other big names would include Kesler, Turris and Larkin.

 

[TheFactor]

Jets management is a joke. I can't believe they'd let a young top dmen go unsigned this long. They should just trade him to a team that actually values him

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

5 years is terrible for the Jets. It buys only a single UFA year and escorts him to free agency.

Since both sides apparently want a long term deal it will be 6, 7 or 8 years. At 8 years he’ll get just no more than Scheifele’s 6.125 AAV, but likely a touch less, probably 8X6. 6 or 7 will be slightly less, something like 33-34 million over 6 or 40-41 million over 7.

Oh I definitely agree that 5 years is terrible for Jets. But I just wouldn't doubt that if Trouba signs for what he feels is a lower AAV, that he will push for 5 years ish only.

but who knows!!!

 

[Mister Ed]

Is Trouba represented by Newport?

He's represented by KO Sports

 

[lomiller1]

This is the second option.. Trouba may have a bit more 'potential' but not much more than Myers than he is supposedly claiming with his supposed contract demands. Plus, we would get way less for Myers than we could get for Trouba. Difference between the 2 is negligible IMO.

Trouba is A LOT better than Myers and that’s not a knock on Myers.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

If the Oilers didn't offer one of those three deals (that I listed), IE something like Eberle or Davidson or Nurse or Reinhart or picks......there would multi teams who would offer better then that b/c those would be poor offers from the Oilers. Zero interest in picks, Eberle, Nurse, Davidson or Reinhart in any deal with Trouba as the main piece from the Jets.

The same thing goes for the Leafs, very few pieces from the Leafs would be of interest to the Jets as a return for Trouba. Very few.

If the jets can't reach a deal, I don't see why they wouldn't have interest in Nurse+ for trouba? A young, big LHD that can fit in their top 4 down the road. It's not like the jets are real contenders this year anyways

Nurse+top 5 protected 1st seems fair, if not a slight overpayment