Trouba will sign an extention like 99.9% of all rfa's holdouts probably around training camp. And then 3 months later the trade rumors will pick up again. And the reason he's better than reilly is because he has a pair.
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That’s a popular misconception, but it’s wrong. Trouba’s best year was 2 years ago, he was slightly down this year but still far better than his rookie season. His slightly lower shot metrics last year were probably a combination of Mark Stuarts decline and usage differences due to Buff starting the year at F in 2014/2015.
In terms of possession stats last year
Trouba Rel CF/60 2.64 Rel CA/60 1.83 Rel CF% 0.33
Rielly Rel CF/60 2.14 Rel CA/60 5.92 Rel CF% -1.61
Trouba also registers a lot more hits and blocked shots. While these are hard to assess because they often correlate to bad possession stats, Trouba has good possession numbers making him something of a rarity in terms of recording a lot of hits and blocks while still being a good puck possession player.
Both Rielly and Trouba had a bad D partner, but Hunwick is a lot better than Stuart at this point. When separated Trouba’s numbers go up more and Stuarts go down more than Rielly/Hunwick. Regardless Trouba has better numbers overall than Rielly and better numbers when paired with Stuart than Rielly does when he’s on the ice with Hunwick. Also note above that Trouba has really good shot generation numbers and in fact they are very very good when he’s not paired with Stuart.
It’s sometimes suggested this is due to QoC, but QoC across all D-men is actually quite close and Trouba faced reasonably high QoC himself. Quality of Teammate actually has a much bigger impact on a players shot metrics that QoC.
Here are the QoT and QoC for both, of particular note is the xGf% of Trouba’s team mates. Basically he spent a lot less time on the ice with players who can finish when given the opportunity, which explains why he has such a big positive impact on shot generation without a lot to show for it in terms of points.
QoC (CF%)
Trouba 49.99%
Rielly 50.37%
QoC(expected goals %)
Trouba 49.93%
Rielly 50.46%
QoT (CF%)
Trouba 50.24%
Rielly 51.23%
QoT (expected goals %)
Trouba 47.84%
Rielly 51.23%
GoJetsGo55
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1) Can we have 1 Trouba thread that's not about Rielly
2) Lawless has known Trouba's agent for 25 years and apparently said agent will pick up his calls all the time. That leads me to believe that Lawless is nothing but a mouthpiece for Trouba and his agent at this time (Jets are very tight-lipped). That means that this is nothing but an agent playing the leverage game.
2) Lawless has known Trouba's agent for 25 years and apparently said agent will pick up his calls all the time. That leads me to believe that Lawless is nothing but a mouthpiece for Trouba and his agent at this time (Jets are very tight-lipped). That means that this is nothing but an agent playing the leverage game.
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He has far better shot differentials (both overall and relative to his teammates) while playing with worse teammates against the same level of competition. Rielly does score a few more PP points per year, credit where credit is due
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Lawless is more likely to be a mouthpiece for the organization than for the agent. He does get inside info from time to time, but the trick with him is always figuring out if he’s reporting inside information given to him, when he’s coming up with analysis on his own and when he’s doing op-ed. Op-ed is op-ed, his reporting can be pretty good but his analysis is terrible.
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He would absolutely sign an $52,500,000 offer sheet from either of those teams.
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Not if he doesn't want to play for either of them he wouldn't and why would he Arizona's not any better then Winnipeg and Trouba alone doesn't make Edmonton a non playoff team to a playoff team.
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Another insider saying there's Trouba Trouble behind the scenes, another thread full of Jets fans saying everything is absolutely perfect and this insider is full of baloney (like all the other insiders reporting on Trouba Trouble).
And for the record, I take Reilly over Trouba on my team without a second thought.
And for the record, I take Reilly over Trouba on my team without a second thought.
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An Oilers beat writer is considered an 'insider' now? It's weird how he's claiming Lawless said this but Lawless hasn't mentioned Trouba in his Twitter account or TSN blog for a long time?? Almost like he's making it up for page hits cause his team is still in desperate need of a defenceman?
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I think before all is said and done, Kevin Cheveldayoff will give Jacob Trouba 8 years $44 million or an AAV of $5.5 million he should be definitely worth that to the club. For what he brings.
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Yeah sorry but $52 million isn't a reason,To sign with a bottom dwelling team that you might not want to play for. Just saying.
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It is true dude. If you'd had to listen to Lawless clueless babble for 5 seasons you'd understand. He's a football reporter that didn't follow hockey until 2011, the amount of ignorant stuff that comes out of his mouth is mind boggling.
He reported that the Jets have no interest in trading Trouba and every intention of signing his long term, but of course that doesn't make the thread title for some reason
So remember hearing some crazy numbers being thrown out there, realistically what is he looking for and what are the Jets willing to pay?
I know if he was willing to Sign 5 Million X 6 yrs I'm sure Lou and company would be willing to trade you Gardiner plus for him(yes I know the plus would have to be substantial but it would solve your LHD defenceman Dilemma).
I suspect if the number were around there he would likely be signed too but who knows.
I know if he was willing to Sign 5 Million X 6 yrs I'm sure Lou and company would be willing to trade you Gardiner plus for him(yes I know the plus would have to be substantial but it would solve your LHD defenceman Dilemma).
I suspect if the number were around there he would likely be signed too but who knows.
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Jets' LW is stacked, D is lacking. The only player they want from Toronto is Reilly.
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Of course this guy has no credibility, same as the last guy who reported the Jets were having trouble signing Trouba. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that.
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You're wrong, it is.
Especially when you're already on a bottom dwelling team that you might not want to play for.
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You're trying too hard, FYI. The Jets GM doesn't comment to reporters regarding contract negotiations. All you are hearing is the regurgitation of a single report by a reporter that speaks to the agent of a player that has virtually no leverage.
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Ryan Strome hasn't signed yet but some guy in Oregan is saying he wants out! If I'm CodeE I accept this as indisputable fact because I believe everything I read on the Internet!!! I'm sure a random dude would never lie
CodeE
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Haven't heard a peep about Strome.
Read a whole bunch of rumors saying Okposo, Nielsen, and Martin would all leave in UFA, but as long as I say those rumors are bogus all three guys should stick around on the Island.
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I don't think that he's a mouthpiece for the organization. True North's standard operating procedure is to keep everything under wraps. There's very little that leaks out. The agent on the other hand, has every reason for this to go public. It puts pressure on the organization.
I agree that he is pretty good at reporting and double agree that his analysis is terrible.
