Player Discussion Trent Frederic

[DKH]

That fine that he’s rebuilding. You can’t have a ticket price that high when you do. If the Bruins ever decide to rebuild, those tix better not go up.

They were 2 games away from WS two years ago with less talent then now

 

[chizzler]

They were 2 games away from WS two years ago with less talent then now

The talent timing is different if that makes sense. One on the way up and the other downward.

 

[PB37]

17 goals while playing less than 12 minutes a game and no PP time. Solid production, albeit some of that came from working with talent. But rewatching his goals, Frederic earned them by doing the right things a player should be doing - going to the net, stick down, head up, support the player with the puck. He'll never be the guy that's the main piece to a line but he's a fine complimentary player with his size, ability to play physical, and enough skill and smarts to defend and cash in on his chances.

Two of his better moments: knockdown punch of Lane Pederson after the high hit on Bergeron and the game where he fought Lemiuex and then went on to win the game with two goals in the third.

 

[Gee Wally]

An eventful summer for the Bruins’ Trent Frederic included a new contract and a hole-in-one - The Boston Globe

The big forward was pleased that he and the Bruins avoided arbitration. "I think they’re happy and I’m happy. So it’s all good.”

www.bostonglobe.com

Trent Frederic’s “How I spent my summer” essay is going to need multiple chapters.
In addition to training for the upcoming season, the big Bruins forward jet-setted around Europe for the first time, collected a nice salary bump (two years at $2.3 million per), and to cap it off, he recently canned his first hole-in-one.
“I didn’t think I’d ever get one of those,” a still-beaming Frederic said Thursday via Zoom.
Playing golf with a bunch of his former comrades from the US National Development Team in northern Michigan, Frederic used a 9-iron to ace a 154-yard par-3.
“It was pretty cool,” he said.

Getting back to hockey, Frederic was glad he and the Bruins were able to strike a deal shortly before the arbitration process kicked off.

“I guess with the whole arbitration thing, it gives a little more leverage to [restricted free agents],” said Frederic, who recently attended a cousin’s wedding in Scotland and took side trips to London and Paris. “I’m happy with the deal. I’m glad we got to settle before, and I think they’re happy and I’m happy. So it’s all good.”

A natural center, the 6-foot-3-inch, 214-pounder has played mostly on the wings since turning pro. Last season, Fredric played a ton of right wing on the third line with Charlie Coyle at center and Taylor Hall on the left side.

With Patrice Bergeron retiring and David Krejci’s status in limbo, plus the expected elevations of Pavel Zacha to the first line and Coyle to the second, Frederic could return to the pivot.

“I guess everything will kind of play out at camp,” he said. “I don’t mind playing center or wing. I think last year, I played pretty much all three, left wing, center, and right. So, I’m comfortable playing both now or playing all three now.

“I actually really liked right wing last year, kind of the first time doing that and really liked it. So, just kind of wherever they [think] I fit in, just try to be my best there.”

Playing with and observing how Bergeron, Krejci, and Coyle played in the middle has been a huge benefit for Frederic, should a position change be in the cards.

“I kind of understand the system at center,” he said. “The way we play is, kind of a lot of times you play low forward. Like when I was playing with Charlie, he always liked when I would chip in and play down low.

“I think for me, the biggest thing would be faceoffs and getting that first touch on the puck for our team. That would be a big factor for my success there. That’s something I probably didn’t do the best last year, but I think with the repetition and the work I’ve been putting in, it should be good.”

Frederic also would like to expand his game into the special teams area. He’s done some penalty killing, but with many core players exiting from last season, the opportunity for some power-play time will be there.

“I would like to play more special teams,” he said. “It’s hard just playing five-on-five at times because you can lose some flow in the game.

“Even a little bit of killing and stuff like that goes a long way. You’re not just sitting there and getting cold. So, I think sometimes playing those other special teams gives you a better opportunity than five-on-five. It’d be awesome if I get the chance to do any of those.

 

[Therick67]

Big year for Trent. He's putting in the work, hopefully he continues to improve.

 

[DKH]

Coyle & Frederic together
649 minutes
35 G Bruins 18 G opponent
+17
High danger chances
154 Bruins 116 opponent
+38

Coyle w/out Frederic
420 minutes
16 G Bruins 14 opponent
+ 2
High danger chances
75 Bruins 94 opponent
-19

* Coyle & Frederic started under 50 % in offensive zone

 

[LSCII]

Coyle & Frederic together
649 minutes
35 G Bruins 18 G opponent
+17
High danger chances
154 Bruins 116 opponent
+38

Coyle w/out Frederic
420 minutes
16 G Bruins 14 opponent
+ 2
High danger chances
75 Bruins 94 opponent
-19

* Coyle & Frederic started under 50 % in offensive zone

You left off a rather important piece of that equation, no? Who was the other line mate during those periods? I’m not saying you did that intentionally but given the amount of intellectual dishonesty surrounding Frederic, I think it’s important to be transparent and provide all the details instead of just a snipped version.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

You left off a rather important piece of that equation, no? Who was the other line mate during those periods? I’m not saying you did that intentionally but given the amount of intellectual dishonesty surrounding Frederic, I think it’s important to be transparent and provide all the details instead of just a snipped version.

180 minutes with Hall? Because that’s all it was

 

[DKH]

You left off a rather important piece of that equation, no? Who was the other line mate during those periods? I’m not saying you did that intentionally but given the amount of intellectual dishonesty surrounding Frederic, I think it’s important to be transparent and provide all the details instead of just a snipped version.

I didn’t do this work I borrowed it you need to go to NHL stats and find it

 

[LSCII]

180 minutes with Hall? Because that’s all it was

It’s not about Hall. Who else played there during the good and the bad? Knowing that would help in determining lines and roles, no?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It’s not about Hall. Who else played there during the good and the bad? Knowing that would help in determining lines and roles, no?

I did a whole thing on this. They let was Frederic paired with Coyle regardless of third player.

 

[DKH]

180 minutes with Hall? Because that’s all it was

Yeh - just looked

Makes Frederic & Coyle together stats even better

I’m very surprised especially since they were under 35% offensive starts yet the danger area chances so high

Stunning stats all things but Frederic was 28th in league in +/- and was playing with Charlie Coyle I read is terrrrble and so many starts in D zone

I keep him with Coyle & as Lou texted me minutes ago said put Boqvist at LW

Frederic also logged many minutes at off wing

It’s not about Hall. Who else played there during the good and the bad? Knowing that would help in determining lines and roles, no?

You don’t believe in science now you don’t believe in math

 

[LSCII]

Yeh - just looked

Makes Frederic & Coyle together stats even better

I’m very surprised especially since they were under 35% offensive starts yet the danger area chances so high

Stunning stats all things but Frederic was 28th in league in +/- and was playing with Charlie Coyle I read is terrrrble and so many starts in D zone

I keep him with Coyle & as Lou texted me minutes ago said put Boqvist at LW

Frederic also logged many minutes at off wing


You don’t believe in science now you don’t believe in math

Uh no. If you’re planning a line it’s nice to know what style player worked the best, no?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Uh no. If you’re planning a line it’s nice to know what style player worked the best, no?

 

[DKH]

Uh no. If you’re planning a line it’s nice to know what style player worked the best, no?

I think your conspiracy tin hat is on to tight

Stop getting all your information from Face Book and trashing legit factual statistics I provided because you don’t like them

 

[DKH]

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Marshy, you know the type - presented with science or statistical data they don’t like they make up shit and tell you you’re wrong

 

[LSCII]

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Thank you. Not sure why that’s so controversial to ask about?

 

[LSCII]

Marshy, you know the type - presented with science or statistical data they don’t like they make up shit and tell you you’re wrong

Weird agenda you’re pushing here Dan. It’s like you’re automatically on the defensive before anyone has even said anything. That would be a you problem though. Also the list you guys provided only have the minutes? It’s missing the good stuff about goals for and against, and scoring chances created vs given up, etc?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Weird agenda you’re pushing here Dan. It’s like you’re automatically on the defensive before anyone has even said anything. That would be a you problem though. Also the list you guys provided only have the minutes? It’s missing the good stuff about goals for and against, and scoring chances created vs given up, etc?

My picture included the %GF. I didn’t include any advanced stats because they’ve been dismissed in our prior interactions. Better to just stay away.

 

[Over the volcano]

He a complimentary forward not a coattails forward

 

[LSCII]

My picture included the %GF. I didn’t include any advanced stats because they’ve been dismissed in our prior interactions. Better to just stay away.

I didn’t ask about advanced stats. I asked about goals for and goals against and scoring chances. Pretty standard no?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I didn’t ask about advanced stats. I asked about goals for and goals against and scoring chances. Pretty standard no?

Expected goals are calculated using quality of scoring chances. But using that stat is frowned upon as an “advanced” stat. But here:

 

[Over the volcano]

I didn’t ask about advanced stats. I asked about goals for and goals against and scoring chances. Pretty standard no?

Line Stats - Natural Stat Trick

This the droid you're looking for?

 

[Colt.45Orr]

I didn’t ask about advanced stats. I asked about goals for and goals against and scoring chances. Pretty standard no?

You wanted to waive him last summer, so why pretend you're objective on him now?

 

[LSCII]

Expected goals are calculated using quality of scoring chances. But using that stat is frowned upon as an “advanced” stat. But here:

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Okay so despite your reluctance to show the details let’s just net it out. Of the folks Coyle and Freddy played with last season who was the most effective, would you say? And if that player or players are no longer on the team, who on the roster is closest to that guy skiilwise and style wise?

You all seem to be assuming I’m trying to set a trap or something, when in reality I want them to set the guy up for his best chance for success. I have my doubts he’s going to be able to duplicate his shooting perecentage from last year but I’ll be more than happy to see him prove me wrong.

The last thing I want to see is them forcing players to be on the same line because they’re limited roster wise. One of the worst mistakes over the last 5 years was constantly playing Krejci and JDB together year after year despite the clashing styles of play. It was maddening.

You wanted to waive him last summer, so why pretend you're objective on him now?

Dude, seriously stop. I’m always objective about everyone on the rooster. I didn’t want him waived, I merely questioned whether he belonged on fhat roster at the time. And he probably didn’t tbh. But there’s a world of difference between sending a guy to Providence for seasoning and what you’re claiming, no?