also moving kerfoot would allow us to carry 23 on the roster and not have to waive anyone of consequence I believe
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also moving kerfoot would allow us to carry 23 on the roster and not have to waive anyone of consequence I believe
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These are all well proposed, but they're thinking if we have replacements we feel comfortable with if someone goes down. It will be interesting to see what happens. We do have a logjam of maybes.
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Across the past 2 years at 5v5 Ilya Mikheyev has scored 0.67 goals per 60.
Comps at 5v5: Tatar 0.67
Teravainen 0.67
Gourde 0.67
Kopitar 0.67
Palat 0.66
Granlund 0.66
Trocheck 0.66
Mantha 0.66
Necas 0.65
Rakell 0.65
Domi 0.65
Seguin 0.64
Perreault 0.64
Pavelski 0.62
Kessel 0.62
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Ilya Mikheyev 5v5 goals per 60 last season...0.65
Nathan MacKinnon 5v5 goals per 60 last season? 0.66
T Konecny 0.65
A Duclair 0.64
A Mantha 0.59
B Schenn 0.58
O Palat 0.57
RNH 0.57
JvR 0.57
A Svechnikov 0.56
K Yamomoto 0.56
M Duchene 0.56
JT Miller 0.55
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Across the past 2 years at 5v5 Ilya Mikheyev has scored 0.67 goals per 60.
Comps at 5v5: Tatar 0.67
Teravainen 0.67
Gourde 0.67
Kopitar 0.67
Palat 0.66
Granlund 0.66
Trocheck 0.66
Mantha 0.66
Necas 0.65
Rakell 0.65
Domi 0.65
Seguin 0.64
Perreault 0.64
Pavelski 0.62
Kessel 0.62
@stephen_burtch
Ilya Mikheyev 5v5 goals per 60 last season...0.65
Nathan MacKinnon 5v5 goals per 60 last season? 0.66
T Konecny 0.65
A Duclair 0.64
A Mantha 0.59
B Schenn 0.58
O Palat 0.57
RNH 0.57
JvR 0.57
A Svechnikov 0.56
K Yamomoto 0.56
M Duchene 0.56
JT Miller 0.55
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The problem is that if one of AM or JT goes down - Kerfoot is the only logical guy to take those minutes in the top six. Brooks/Kampf/Spezza really can't and they haven't used Nylander at C very much. Kerfoot showed that he can be a useful filler in the top 6 with injuries.
Kerfoot can play on any of the lines - even L3 with Kampf and Kase, but I think it makes sense to put Mikheyev there and shelter a line with Kerfoot/Spezza so they can generate in the bottom six more than most.
Everyone is fixiated on the opening night lineup, but its going to change quite a bit with injuries.
correct ... ive been saying this for months ..
carry 23 roster with 1.2mil of cap space that will accru through out the year. even if you replace kerfoot for a 1.5 to 2 mil player , you are accruing 500k+.
you can even do a kerfoot+dermott trade to a rebuilding team (5mil) for a up to 3+ mil player and still be able to ice a 23 man roster.
does seattle still want him, there are so many possibilities with players on that roster.
he can find a middle 6 C/LW or C/RW for a cheaper price.
also if matthews goes down long term is there even a point of bolstering this lineup ? at that point its sell mode.
Meh, I don't really think you can find a Middle six C you're as comfortable playing in the top six for much cheaper.
Yes - if Matthews or Tavares goes down for an entire season you're in trouble. What if its 8 weeks and you need a placeholder to get you through two months before they're back? The Atlantic is too strong of a division to just throw Adam Brooks or David Kampf in the top six.
Interesting note from my buddy in sports science at MLSE, 5 fastest Leafs speed times goal line to goal line camp 2021 testing
1. Mik
2. Kerfoot
3. Rielly
4. Willy
5. Dermy
After that team has a pretty big drop off in speed department
1. Mik
2. Kerfoot
3. Rielly
4. Willy
5. Dermy
After that team has a pretty big drop off in speed department
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i'm a bit surprised at Dermy, tbh.
The top-4 are legit high-end burners though, and if the drop-off comes AFTER dermy than he must just be faster than i thought.
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In fairness, Brooks hasn't had the opportunity to fill a gap in the top 6, and based on what he's shown in a limited sample size, I think he can handle it. He's a similar player to Kerfoot with better offensive tools in my opinion.
again if suggesting to get a middle 6 guy back so it wouldnt be brooks or kampf.
also you forget about trades. by not having kerfoot you can actually make trades at the deadline for ANOTHER body even without injuries because we will have accrued a ton of cap.
trade body+ deadline body >>>>>>>> Kerfoot
Kerfoot doesn't make a lot of money - he just does relative to the other middle sixers on the Leafs. I don't see a player you get back making much less than him if they're going to play that role - thus the 1Mish you can accrue is not as much, and probably not worth downgrading that injury replacement option anyway. They can also just trade Kerfoot at the deadline to make room with the other cap space they accrue during the season if a big name player becomes available.
The risk of losing Kerfoot and having a top six C go down with injury is not worth it at all IMO.
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Surprising yes but it doesn't really indicate anything about Mikheyev. We've seen him play for two years now. He would be horrible on the PP, has absolute stone hands, and really doesn't provide much offense. ZERO points across 2 years of playoff action.
I like Mikheyev as a bottom six guy because he plays hard and is a hell of a skater. But he's not an offensive player no matter what stats we cherrypick. I hope I am wrong!
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He didn't even play a preseason game. That tells me they don't want him at all, and clearing early could just be a precursor to a trade... That is what I am hoping/expecting anyways.
Kivihalme is an offensive defenseman who doesn't put up much offense (29 points in 75 AHL games). He is effectively a worse version of Calle Rosen, and Kivihalme is only a year younger than Rosen so it is not like he really has upside. When you already have Hollowell, Sandin, and Duszak (among others), he is a redundant bottom pairing AHL defenseman.
Worst of all, he is blocking younger guys with upside. Moving him would give a chance for Hellickson, Hoefenmayer, Pietroniro, McCourt, Kapcheck, and Finkelstein to compete for an AHL job... Even if it is just a #7/#8 job.
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Quanthockey is using ESG, not 5v5
Using natural stat trick it seems Mackinon was as the tweet says, he scored 4 additional goals at Even
strength but not 5v5 which is what skews the percentage.
It also shows how just burying a couple more even strength goals would change that number a lot. Mackinon 12 at ESG but only 8 at 5v5
According to Quanthockey its also not true.
Mackinon was .925 ESG/60 Nathan MacKinnon - NHL Profile
And Mikheyev was .698 ESG/60 Ilya Mikheyev - NHL Profile
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