Trades & Free Agency Thread - Still Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[Punch Drunk Loov]

They were better than most bottom 6 groups in the first round.

The stars didn't show up.

Agreed. I'm moreso speaking for next year: perhaps no Kerfoot, Engvall, Soup, hoping Spezza is unreal again, Simmonds, Brooks.

 

[Brobust]

not sure what he means by that...lehtonen was hyped by Finnish posters and if i remember correctly, the expectations were low on barabanov.

Of course, Lehtonen shouldn't have been hyped as much as he was.

But I just feel like the guy I responded to really likes to rub it in.

 

[Cor]

not sure what he means by that...lehtonen was hyped by Finnish posters and if i remember correctly, the expectations were low on barabanov.

Yeah, the thought behind Barabanov was that maybe he could contribute in the bottom 6. He also looked really good in San Jose. So the bragging that he’s not an effective NHL player may be premature.

As for Lehtonen. There was a ton of hype, even by those that actually work in the sport. This wasn’t just an HF hype. He was never in the lineup regularly. I don’t know how he looked in Columbus.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Frederick Gaudreau
Liam O'Brien

My 2 under the radar type additions, think they could provide good things for our bottom 6.

 

[Amadeus]

You want Killer Instinct? Go get Blake Coleman. He's amazing.

 

[Jozay]

You want Killer Instinct? Go get Blake Coleman. He's amazing.

Coleman is getting a similar contract to Hyman.

 

[Amadeus]

Coleman is getting a similar contract to Hyman.

Love Hyman but Coleman is better.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Low Event off Season - Kerfoot Exp*

Leafs: Miles Wood
Devils: Travis Dermott & Ilya Mikheyev

Leafs: Ryan Hartman
Wild: Pierre Engvall & Joey Anderson

Re-Sign:
Nick Foligno - 2 x 2.25
Zack Bogosian - 1 x 1.25
Alex Galchenyuk 1 x 1.5
Sign:
Chris Driedger - 2 x 2
Barclay Goodrow 3 x 1.75
Cedric Paquette 1 x 875k
Jamie Oleksiak 3 x 2.75

Wood - - Matthews - - Marner
Galchenyuk - Tavares - Nylander
Goodrow - Foligno - Hartman
Robertson - Spezza - Simmonds
Paquette - Brooks

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Oleksiak

Campbell
Driedger

 

[Dreakmur]

Frederick Gaudreau
Liam O'Brien

My 2 under the radar type additions, think they could provide good things for our bottom 6.

We need two top-6 wingers and a 3c. Really hoping we don’t scrounge the bargain barrel again.

 

[Knies iT]

Management is going to be severely handcuffed when it comes to acquiring players with term, which is concerning given the team has significant holes at top 6 LW, 3C, and bottom 6 depth.

Next summer Rielly's raise kicks in, both Sandin/Liljegren will need bridge contracts, and Campbell's cheap deal expires. If Campbell takes you deep like they believe he can, he will need a significant raise. If he fails, it's clear they need an upgrade. Regardless, you will not enter 2022-2023 with a starter making only 1.65m.

Hypothetically, even by cutting ties with Muzzin next summer via trade, that will only be enough to cover the above raises, let alone replacing your #2 D. Don't see any way to improve the team's depth long-term without trading a core piece.

 

[horner]

Management is going to be severely handcuffed when it comes to acquiring players with term, which is concerning given the team has significant holes at top 6 LW, 3C, and bottom 6 depth.

Next summer Rielly's raise kicks in, both Sandin/Liljegren will need bridge contracts, and Campbell's cheap deal expires. If Campbell takes you deep like they believe he can, he will need a significant raise. If he fails, it's clear they need an upgrade. Regardless, you will not enter 2022-2023 with a starter making only 1.65m.

Hypothetically, even by cutting ties with Muzzin next summer via trade, that will only be enough to cover the above raises, let alone replacing your #2 D. Don't see any way to improve the team's depth long-term without trading a core piece.

Management think we can .
We will be a middle of the pack team never going anywhere.

Dubas don't ever trade your 1st rd pick again

 

[Legion34]

You want Killer Instinct? Go get Blake Coleman. He's amazing.

he has 2 goals in 20 games

 

[Brobust]

Management is going to be severely handcuffed when it comes to acquiring players with term, which is concerning given the team has significant holes at top 6 LW, 3C, and bottom 6 depth.

Next summer Rielly's raise kicks in, both Sandin/Liljegren will need bridge contracts, and Campbell's cheap deal expires. If Campbell takes you deep like they believe he can, he will need a significant raise. If he fails, it's clear they need an upgrade. Regardless, you will not enter 2022-2023 with a starter making only 1.65m.

Hypothetically, even by cutting ties with Muzzin next summer via trade, that will only be enough to cover the above raises, let alone replacing your #2 D. Don't see any way to improve the team's depth long-term without trading a core piece.

Another way of looking at it would be, they have most of their top 6 and 2 top 4 d-men locked up and $25M to spend to fill out the rest of the lineup. So, most of their important players are still under contract and they have flexibility to fill out the rest of the roster.

Sounds like they're in a great spot, IMO.

 

[Dreakmur]

Another way of looking at it would be, they have most of their top 6 and 2 top 4 d-men locked up and $25M to spend to fill out the rest of the lineup. So, most of their important players are still under contract and they have flexibility to fill out the rest of the roster.

Sounds like they're in a great spot, IMO.

They currently need to add two top-9 LWs, a 3C, and a reliable backup goalie. They could also use a good 4C and an upgrade at 4D.

I wouldn't say that's a great spot to be in.

 

[shortfuze]

Management think we can .
We will be a middle of the pack team never going anywhere.

Dubas don't ever trade your 1st rd pick again

So last year they finished 6, the year before 13th (in a shortened season) and the 2 years before that they finished 7th. What makes them a middle of the pack team now? Seeing as how the offence is still there and they upgraded their defence.

 

[Brobust]

They currently need to add two top-9 LWs, a 3C, and a reliable backup goalie. They could also use a good 4C and an upgrade at 4D.

I wouldn't say that's a great spot to be in.

$11M of space with Kerfoot and Holl still in the lineup.

That's more than enough as long as you don't do something stupid like pay Goodrow or Cizikas $3M.

 

[Dreakmur]

$11M of space with Kerfoot and Holl still in the lineup.

That's more than enough as long as you don't do something stupid like pay Goodrow or Cizikas $3M.

If we go dumpster diving again, sure. Guys like Galchenyuk and Bunting aren't top-6 forwards, but we probably have to force them into those roles.

I don't think Holl is a top-4 guy, but you're not getting one of those for 2 million. You can replace him if you want, but it doesn't save money.

Kerfoot's money does need to go. I somewhat like him as a player - he'd be pretty good as a 3rd line LW, but we can't spend money at that position without taking it from more important positions.

 

[Avilaj07]

If we could somehow move all of Kerfoot, Engvall and Mikheyev and replace them with Czikas, Goodrow and Coleman then that would be a hell of a 3rd line

Czikas 3yrs at 2.5 million
Goodrow 3yrs at 1.75 million
Coleman 3 yrs at 3 million

 

[ToneDog]

If we go dumpster diving again, sure. Guys like Galchenyuk and Bunting aren't top-6 forwards, but we probably have to force them into those roles.

I don't think Holl is a top-4 guy, but you're not getting one of those for 2 million. You can replace him if you want, but it doesn't save money.

Kerfoot's money does need to go. I somewhat like him as a player - he'd be pretty good as a 3rd line LW, but we can't spend money at that position without taking it from more important positions.

Hyman, Holl, Andersen, Kerfoot, Mik, Engval gives us almost $16m cap space. Move Rielly for Connor if that is possible.

If the plan is to not touch the core:

Must sign Oleksiak, Goodrow and Drieger ($8m max total)
Hope to sign: Janmark and/or Haula ($5m), Gally $1m, Hoffman ($3m or less)

Hoffman Matthews Nylander
Connor Tavares Marner
Goodrow Haula Simmonds (prefer better but we have Simmonds)
Robertson/Gally Janmark Spezza

Oleksiak Brodie
Muzzin Dermott
Sandin Bogosian
Hutton Lily

Drieger
Campbell

 

[ToneDog]

If we could somehow move all of Kerfoot, Engvall and Mikheyev and replace them with Czikas, Goodrow and Coleman then that would be a hell of a 3rd line

Czikas 3yrs at 2.5 million
Goodrow 3yrs at 1.75 million
Coleman 3 yrs at 3 million

I like but no way Casey takes a $1m pay cut as a UFA to come here. Isles easily give him more. Goodrow will be over $2m and some think Coleman is closer to Hyman which is $4m min. Of the 3 I think Goodrow is almost a lock to be a Leaf.

 

[Dreakmur]

Move Rielly for Connor if that is possible.

It's not possible without a significant add.

Hoffman Matthews Nylander
Connor Tavares Marner

Lets make the top-6 even softer and worse defensively!

Goodrow Haula Simmonds (prefer better but we have Simmonds)
Robertson/Gally Janmark Spezza

Haula is probably my favorite target for 3C. Goodrow is a decent add.

Oleksiak Brodie
Muzzin Dermott
Sandin Bogosian

That's a really bad blueline. Oleksiak is a 4/5 guy.

 

[exporta]

I'm just glad everyone else is finally on the "Leafs need to get physical" train. I felt like I was on my own island the last 3 years.

Took more 1st rd exits for you guys to finally come around

Really? That trains been strong for atleast a decade.

 

[Amadeus]

he has 2 goals in 20 games

Scores when it matters.

 

[Brobust]

If we go dumpster diving again, sure. Guys like Galchenyuk and Bunting aren't top-6 forwards, but we probably have to force them into those roles.

I don't think Holl is a top-4 guy, but you're not getting one of those for 2 million. You can replace him if you want, but it doesn't save money.

Kerfoot's money does need to go. I somewhat like him as a player - he'd be pretty good as a 3rd line LW, but we can't spend money at that position without taking it from more important positions.

Have faith.

A couple of gems (Galchenyuk's most likely coming back) and Mikheyev shooting 11% will fix all their issues.

Also Foligno's going to re-sign cheap. So that's another forward problem solved.

 

[Dreakmur]

Have faith.

A couple of gems (Galchenyuk's most likely coming back) and Mikheyev shooting 11% will fix all their issues.

Also Foligno's going to re-sign cheap. So that's another forward problem solved.

Foligno signing cheap solves one of the top-6 LW slots. If he doesn't, then we dumpster dive with Galchenyuk.

We still need a legit top line LW.