Trades & Free Agency Thread - Still Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[hamzarocks]

Some teams might do something different, but this is who I see getting exposed:

Anaheim
Troy Terry, Sonny Milano, Derek Grant, Nicolas Deslauriers, Danton Heinen
Kevin Shattenkirk, Haydn Fleury, Jacob Larsson
Anthony Stolarz

Arizona
Tyler Pithlick, Christian Fischer,
Ilya Lyubishkin
Aidin Hill

Boston
Craig Smith, Chris Wagner,
Connor Clifton, Jakub Zboril
Callum Booth

Buffalo
Kyle Okposo, Cody Eakin, Zemgus Girginsons, Tage Thompson
Colin Miller
Dustin Tokarski

Calgary
Mikael Backlund, Andrew Mangiapane
Mark Giordano, Oliver Kylington
Tyler Parsons

Carolina
Jesper Fast, Steven Lorentz
Brady Skjei, Jake Gardiner
Jeremy Helvig

Chicago
Brett Connolly, Ryan Carpenter
Calvin de Haan, Nikita Zadorov
Colin Dalia, Malcolm Subban

Colorado
Nazem Kadri, TJ Compher
Devon Toews, Ryan Graves
Hunter Miska

Columbus
Kevin Stenlund, Eric Robinson
Dean Kukan
Matts Kilveneska

Dallas
Jason Dickinson, Blake Comeau, Tanner Kero
Andrej Sekera, Joel Hanley
Anton Khudobin

Detroit
Frans Neilson, Richard Panik
Troy Stecher, Dennis Cholowski
Kaden Fulcher

Edmonton
James Neal, Kyle Turris, Devin Shore, Juhjar Khaira
Kris Russell, Caleb Jones
Mikko Koskinen

Florida
Mason Marchment, Ryan Lumberg, Anthony Duclair, Lucas Wallmark
Anton Stralman, Radko Gudas, Markus Nutivaara
Samuel Montembealt

Los Angeles
Blake Lizotte, Carl Grundstrom, Lias Anderson, Andreas Athanasiou
Olli Maatta, Curits MacDermid
Jonathan Quick

Minnesota
Victor Rask, Nico Sturm
Matt Dumba, Carson Soucy
Kaapo Kahkonen

Montreal
Jonathan Drouin, Paul Byron
Joel Edmundson, Brett Kulak
Jake Allen

Nashville
Ryan Johanson, Matt Duchene, Colton Scissons, Nick Cousins, Yakov Trenin
Mark Boroweiki, Matt Benning
Connor Ingram

New Jersey
Andreas Johansson, Nathan Bastian
Will Butcher
Evan Cormier

New York
Andrew Ladd, Cal Clutterbuck, Leo Komarov, Matt Martin
Scott Mayfield
Ken Appleby

New York
Kevin Rooney, Colin Blackwell, Julian Gauthier
Anthony Deangelo
Keith Kinkaid

Ottawa
Chris Tierney, Austin Watson
Josh Brown
Anton Forsberg

Philadelphia
Oskar Lindholm, Nicolas Aube-Kubel, Nolan Patrick
Shane Gostisbehere, Justin Braun, Robert Hagg
Felix Sandstrom

Pittsburgh
Matt Zucker, Jeff Carter
Marcus Petterson, Chad Ruhwedel
Casey DeSmith

San Jose
Kevin Lebanc, Matt Nieto
Radim Simek
Josef Korenar

St. Louis
Oskar Sundqvist, Sammy Blais,
Marco Scandello, Vince Dunn, Robert Bortuzzo
Ville Husso

Tampa Bay
Tyler Johnson, Patrick Maroon, Mathieu Joseph
Erik Cernak
Spencer Martin

Vancouver
Loui Eriksson, Antoine Roussel, Jake Virtanen, Jay Beagle, Zach McEwan, Matthew Highmore
Madison Bowey
Braden Holtby

Washington
Carl Hagelin, Conor Sheary
Brendan Dillon, Nick Jensen, Michal Kampny, Trevor van Riemsdayk
Vitek Vanecek

Winnipeg
Mason Appleton, Janson Harkins
Nathan Beaulieu, Sami Niku
Mikhail Berdin

Looking at that, Alex Kerfoot is easily the most appealing Maple Leaf.

Mangiapane - Johansen - Lebanc
Zucker - Kerfoot - Sheary
Panik - Tierney - Smith
Robinson - Shore- Aube-Kubel

(Thompson, Appleton, Blackwell, Bastian, Marchment, Grundstrom)

Toews - Dumba
Skjei - Cernak
deHaan - Mayfield

(Shattenkirk, Dunn)

Allen
Hill

(Holtby, Khudobin)

Hard to know what the Kracken end up doing but just off of your listings, Appleton > Kerfoot and a year younger. He would be a better choice for the 2C slot than Kerfoot though neither are 2C. This roster does look pretty bad, but they could outperform as the Knights did.

Just running down the forwards listing I find Sunqvist over Dunn would be a better choice for the Kraken, and he's another player who can fit into their top 9. Had an injury-filled year but has been a 35ish point center the years past.

Their defense looks incredible can't deny

Toews a good 3D, Dumba a good 3D, Skeji a good 3D, Cernak a good 3D, Dehann a good 4D, and Mayfield a good 4D

Have the makings to be a strong defensive team

 

[hamzarocks]

Nope. they really like him. I'm guessing the ask is 1st round pick or a top 6 forward in return.

If teams don't like the price, they'll be happy to keep him.

Dubas likes a lot of players on this roster, that's his fatal flaw. Kerfoot wont get a 2nd let alone a 1st or an actual top 6 player. You watch him play yourself and we know he isn't a top 6 level player. He's a below-average 3C with very little offensive capabilities and upside.

His value is much lower than Kapanen's was and he got 15th + B prospect.

Best case scenario we get a 3rd + B prospect, but that is if a GM really likes Kerfoot and feels he is a missing piece.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

You overrate Kerfoot considerably, he's a meh 3C despite his strong playoffs. Doubt he gets selected. A lot better options and he isn't a top 6 player. Using him on the third line is already not working in Toronto so if SEA are trying to win off the bat they won't be looking to copy our model of having him play an important role in the top 9

He has a poor shot, poor puck control, and is a bad decision-maker with the puck on his stick. He is very streaky and his production generally comes when paired with strong talent (JT and Willy)

I think you are overrating the quality of offensive talent available in the Expansion Draft. Most teams are protecting 7F, and their 8th forwards are not better than Kerfoot.

 

[hamzarocks]

I think you are overrating the quality of offensive talent available in the Expansion Draft. Most teams are protecting 7F, and their 8th forwards are not better than Kerfoot.

Teams will have underutilized players available who Seattle can look into to see if they fit a William KArlsson like profile. The 8th best forward on a team may not be better than Kerfoot this year, but if the Kraken feel that in their system the player can be used better and fit whatever coaching style Hakstol uses (not sure as he just did the PK stuff here, and was hated by Flyer fans) they would go after that type of player.

The Kraken will also have at least a few trades where they get a Rielly Smith like offer by some desperate GM to protect one of their players they signed

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Nope. they really like him. I'm guessing the ask is 1st round pick or a top 6 forward in return.

If teams don't like the price, they'll be happy to keep him.

I doubt they ask that much for Kerfoot, but it will likely be a 2nd + mid round pick.

 

[Brobust]

They're gonna protect him thinking they can get a good return... then realize he's not very valuable and decide to keep him.

May I remind you that Toronto turned down McKenzie Weegar for Kerfoot + Dermott.

 

[Brobust]

I doubt they ask that much for Kerfoot, but it will likely be a 2nd + mid round pick.

If there's some big name player they're making space for, then yeah. But I don't think they'll dump him for the price just to sign some other middle six forward.

 

[shortfuze]

So we don't want to overhaul the bottom 6, want to keep the core the same, the defense is good so won't change too much for that.

What are we doing then?? Like what's the plan here for the team.

Well you’re not doing anything, however maybe shanahan and Dubas were happy with the team. Maybe their game plan is to run it again. Hopefully bringing a few of the guys back in foligno and galchenyuk.

 

[dubplatepressure]

May I remind you that Toronto turned down McKenzie Weegar for Kerfoot + Dermott.

Do us all a favour and please don't

 

[dubplatepressure]

I'll say it again - good buy-low grinder could be Nicholas Caamano out of Dallas. Plays the right side, 6'3", mucks it up, and had good offensive production in the A on a team with basically no one other than J Robertson whom he out produced in PPG.

 

[rumman]

J Gauthier please.

 

[Dreakmur]

May I remind you that Toronto turned down McKenzie Weegar for Kerfoot + Dermott.

How much did they value Dermott vs. Kerfoot?

 

[leafsfan5]

Sorry, meant Simmonds.

The playoffs were miserable for sure. But I really liked what they did during the regular season. 1 good forward gives them more flexibility and I think they'll surprise, even in the Atlantic.

Agree on Simmonds, he provided nothing we can't get for league minimum.

I'm at the point where regular season doesn't matter anymore. They looked great but faltered when it matters most. It wasn't even execution, it was effort. In game 6 they let Campbell out to dry the first couple of periods and in game 7 they straight up looked like they wanted to be anywhere but there. There's some fundamental issues and I don't know how they solve it by running it back

 

[leafsfan5]

Well you’re not doing anything, however maybe shanahan and Dubas were happy with the team. Maybe their game plan is to run it again. Hopefully bringing a few of the guys back in foligno and galchenyuk.

Thanks for the clarification, I was sure I'm the one making changes in the organization

The team blew a 3-1 lead and haven't won a series in 5 years with a flat cap presenting upcoming problems. It's certainly time to run it back

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Agree on Simmonds, he provided nothing we can't get for league minimum.

I'm at the point where regular season doesn't matter anymore. They looked great but faltered when it matters most. It wasn't even execution, it was effort. In game 6 they let Campbell out to dry the first couple of periods and in game 7 they straight up looked like they wanted to be anywhere but there. There's some fundamental issues and I don't know how they solve it by running it back

I think this sums it up better. I am sure they were trying really hard and gave a great effort trying to "push that door open". Not going to have a lot of success though. That is what we did Games 5-7.

Also like how it is a "school for the gifted" since we are a really high IQ team who can make really high end plays, yet we make a lot of stupid mistakes.

As for running it back, I think the issues you are pointing out won't be solved by running it with a different team either.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

May I remind you that Toronto turned down McKenzie Weegar for Kerfoot + Dermott.

The report was Johnsson + Dermott, and keep in mind that it also means we don't get Brodie. I think we made the right move, even in hindsight where Weegar worked out about as well as you could expect.

If trade Dermott, then we are looking at Brodie + Anderson + Dermott's return for Weegar + 1.75 mill (assuming he signs for the same amount as he would have in Florida, which historically does not happen due to taxes). If Anderson becomes something and Dermott's return is solid, then we made out pretty well.

 

[Menzinger]

Kerfoot is likely taken expansion
Hyman is too pricey, so likely won't be back.
Thornton was ungood
Simmonds was mostly ungood
Galchenyuk and Foligno I'd bring back though, if possible, but I think Foligno goes back to Columbus and we might look for someone better than Galchenyuk for L2, and he doesn't really fit on L3 or L4.

Mikheyev will be back next year. He's good on the PK, and is a tremendous defensively. We know there's some form of offensive potential. I wouldn't even hate if he got a shot on L1 or L2 in more offensive start situations to see if it can be squeezed out. But at 1.65M, on L3 and PK, he's very good value and should be kept.

Engvall.... Ideally is only on L4, and frankly, he's fine there. But, if we can recoup a draft pick for him, give Joey Anderson that spot, and save 500K in the process, I feel like that's something that can happen.

So, other than Mikheyev, I can see why all the others wouldn't be back.

Yep. Soup and Spezza (and Brooks, if he's still with the team) are probably the only familiar faces in the bottom six.

I suspect management/coaches like Engvall too, but I think he probably makes a hair too much money, and they'll be looking to clear up as much space as possible

 

[Menzinger]

I think you are overrating the quality of offensive talent available in the Expansion Draft. Most teams are protecting 7F, and their 8th forwards are not better than Kerfoot.

The Kraken also have a few stats guys in their front office group and Kerfoots underlying numbers are usually pretty solid. I'd say if the Leafs don't outright trade him prior to expansion he starts next year in Seattle's top 9.

 

[Brobust]

The Kraken also have a few stats guys in their front office group and Kerfoots underlying numbers are usually pretty solid. I'd say if the Leafs don't outright trade him prior to expansion he starts next year in Seattle's top 9.

I don't think Kerfoot is going to be exposed and I think the Spezza signing is a pretty good indication that the leafs are going to be protecting 7 forwards.

I believe that it'll be Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Kerfoot, x, x. While Engvall and Spezza will be left exposed to meet draft requirements. Then, post draft, they can decide wether to trade Kerfoot or not.

 

[shortfuze]

I don't think Kerfoot is going to be exposed and I think the Spezza signing is a pretty good indication that the leafs are going to be protecting 7 forwards.

I believe that it'll be Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Kerfoot, x, x. While Engvall and Spezza will be left exposed to meet draft requirements. Then, post draft, they can decide wether to trade Kerfoot or not.

They’re better off going 4-4 and hoping Seattle takes kerfoot so they save some money. I don’t think the Spezza signing does anything for either team.

 

[DcW]

I'll say it again - good buy-low grinder could be Nicholas Caamano out of Dallas. Plays the right side, 6'3", mucks it up, and had good offensive production in the A on a team with basically no one other than J Robertson whom he out produced in PPG.

That is the type of move they are going to have to make (young player posed to become a NHL’er on cheap contract). Guys whose production is greater than they’re salary. Turn the Dermott’s of the team into that type of piece(s). He’s an excellent candidate in my opinion

 

[Cor]

Yep. Soup and Spezza (and Brooks, if he's still with the team) are probably the only familiar faces in the bottom six.

I suspect management/coaches like Engvall too, but I think he probably makes a hair too much money, and they'll be looking to clear up as much space as possible

Considering Keefe left him off the initial roster last year and didn’t play him until injuries hit, I am unsure Keefe is even that much of a fan

 

[Dreakmur]

I don't think Kerfoot is going to be exposed and I think the Spezza signing is a pretty good indication that the leafs are going to be protecting 7 forwards.

I believe that it'll be Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Kerfoot, x, x. While Engvall and Spezza will be left exposed to meet draft requirements. Then, post draft, they can decide wether to trade Kerfoot or not.

X and X would be Joey Anderson and Adam Brooks.

If the choice is between Holl, Dermott, and Engvall, I think Seattle takes Engvall.

That leaves us with about 10 million to get a 1st line LW, 2nd line LW, 3rd line C, 4th line C, and backup goalie. That's really tight.

 

[Brobust]

X and X would be Joey Anderson and Adam Brooks.

If the choice is between Holl, Dermott, and Engvall, I think Seattle takes Engvall.

That leaves us with about 10 million to get a 1st line LW, 2nd line LW, 3rd line C, 4th line C, and backup goalie. That's really tight.

But we just had a 10 post argument about Engvall sucking.

 

[Brobust]

They’re better off going 4-4 and hoping Seattle takes kerfoot so they save some money. I don’t think the Spezza signing does anything for either team.

Leaving someone exposed to save cap is a Dale Tallon move.

How did that work for him?