Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[thusk]

I’d actually be interested to see a breakdown of his most common linemates. I only remember him playing probably like half the games with Matthews but I could be misremembering.

I think it’s also before the allstar break he was losing steam and needed the time off. First NHL length season so not unexpected

 

[Sypher04]

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interesting thanks! I guess maybe my memory is conflating the playoffs where he lined up with Tavares more with the regular season.

 

[ULF_55]

I’d actually be interested to see a breakdown of his most common linemates. I only remember him playing probably like half the games with Matthews but I could be misremembering.

I think it’s also before the allstar break he was losing steam and needed the time off. First NHL length season so not unexpected

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[rumman]

I don’t want the older guys like patches kampf anf jarnkrok
Taking minutes from the young guys.

The only way we really get to know what we have is let them play and gain experience.

I’m guessing the more kids will get inserted into the line up for the away games……..

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838234267853197723

Hello LA could we interest you in one slightly used David Kampf?

 

[TMLAM34]

I’d be taking a hard look at Laughton right now. Someone who can play center or wing with a little bit of an edge, depending if you want to continue having Nylander down the middle or move him back to wing.

To Toronto: Scott Laughton + 4th Rounder
To Philadelphia: Nick Robertson + Timothy Liljegren

To Toronto: 3rd Rounder
To Pittsburgh: Calle Jarnkrok

You would free up 2.975 million after doing these deals.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
Grebenkin - Laughton - Nylander
McMann - Kampf - Holmberg/Reaves

Rielly - Tanev
Benoit - McCabe
OEL - Hakanpaa

Woll - Stolarz

 

[notdoneyet]

We need another top 6 center
Why try Willy somewhere he hasn’t done before
His strength is getting the puck in the neutral zone and going to the net where he can use his great shot.
I think if he concentrates too much on defence it could impact his offense
Of course he has to be accountable defensively but not to neuter him

Here is a list of centres I wouldn’t mind pursuing. Of course we trade kampf and Jarnkrok for cap purposes
I only took centers from rebuilding teams

Jenner
Laughton
Mcbain
Vatrano
Wennberg

 

[notDatsyuk]

We need another top 6 center
Why try Willy somewhere he hasn’t done before
His strength is getting the puck in the neutral zone and going to the net where he can use his great shot.
I think if he concentrates too much on defence it could impact his offense
Of course he has to be accountable defensively but not to neuter him

Here is a list of centres I wouldn’t mind pursuing. Of course we trade kampf and Jarnkrok for cap purposes
I only took centers from rebuilding teams

Jenner
Laughton
Mcbain
Vatrano
Wennberg

Apparently he's played centre everywhere but the Leafs.

Yes, he looked like he was focusing a bit too much on the defensive side last night, but it was the first game there.

On his goal he was the first man back into his end, and two quick passes later he's scoring from in close.

Generally he looked a bit cautious, but not neutered.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Apparently he's played centre everywhere but the Leafs.

Yes, he looked like he was focusing a bit too much on the defensive side last night, but it was the first game there.

On his goal he was the first man back into his end, and two quick passes later he's scoring from in close.

Generally he looked a bit cautious, but not neutered.

Honestly I think Willy can pull a Zetterberg and switch to center full time and be successful.

Matthews/Nylander/Tavares down the middle would be sweet but we need to get some better right shot RW's on the roster though. Jarnkrok and Reaves being the depth after Marner is sad.

 

[OVO16]

I’d be taking a hard look at Laughton right now. Someone who can play center or wing with a little bit of an edge, depending if you want to continue having Nylander down the middle or move him back to wing.

To Toronto: Scott Laughton + 4th Rounder
To Philadelphia: Nick Robertson + Timothy Liljegren

To Toronto: 3rd Rounder
To Pittsburgh: Calle Jarnkrok

You would free up 2.975 million after doing these deals.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
Grebenkin - Laughton - Nylander
McMann - Kampf - Holmberg/Reaves

Rielly - Tanev
Benoit - McCabe
OEL - Hakanpaa

Woll - Stolarz

Laughton is an ideal Leaf target but I think he's gonna be a trade deadline acquisition instead of now.

 

[thusk]

Apparently he's played centre everywhere but the Leafs.

Yes, he looked like he was focusing a bit too much on the defensive side last night, but it was the first game there.

On his goal he was the first man back into his end, and two quick passes later he's scoring from in close.

Generally he looked a bit cautious, but not neutered.

Skinner, e. Kane, toffoli, hyman, huberdeau, forsberg, konecny, schwartz, kreider, eberle, drouin, marner, ehlers.. couple of player who played as a C in the other league outside of NHL and didn't play that position in NHL.

The fact he having skill and played at the position doesn't mean its the best fit for him in the NHL.

And yes he need time to ajust but all the scoring chance he create by beating d with his speed will not be possible anymore as a center. He will need to find an other way to produce and its where the challenge will be offensively if he still playing at C.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Skinner, e. Kane, toffoli, hyman, huberdeau, forsberg, konecny, schwartz, kreider, eberle, drouin, marner, ehlers.. couple of player who played as a C in the other league outside of NHL and didn't play that position in NHL.

The fact he having skill and played at the position doesn't mean its the best fit for him in the NHL.

And yes he need time to ajust but all the scoring chance he create by beating d with his speed will not be possible anymore as a center. He will need to find an other way to produce and its where the challenge will be offensively if he still playing at C.

How many if those players have been IIHF World Championship MVP, all-star, and leading scorer as centres?

I didn't say he was necessarily the best fit for centre - I was responding to someone who said he had never played it.

As a centre you can't use your speed to beat the opposing D? Somebody should explain that to McDavid!

Instead of speculating about what he maybe can and can't do, why not let him play a few games and see?

 

[Fogelhund]

Skinner, e. Kane, toffoli, hyman, huberdeau, forsberg, konecny, schwartz, kreider, eberle, drouin, marner, ehlers.. couple of player who played as a C in the other league outside of NHL and didn't play that position in NHL.

The fact he having skill and played at the position doesn't mean its the best fit for him in the NHL.

And yes he need time to ajust but all the scoring chance he create by beating d with his speed will not be possible anymore as a center. He will need to find an other way to produce and its where the challenge will be offensively if he still playing at C.

It doesn't mean it isn't a best fit for him, does it? I mean he might be best as a C, but if he doesn't get reps in at some level, you eliminate that possibility from his future.

..and absolutely you can use your speed to your advantage at C, or any position for that matter...

 

[ULF_55]

It doesn't mean it isn't a best fit for him, does it? I mean he might be best as a C, but if he doesn't get reps in at some level, you eliminate that possibility from his future.

..and absolutely you can use your speed to your advantage at C, or any position for that matter...

Along the boards versus middle of the ice?

Just speculating you have more room in the middle of the ice as opposed to along the boards?

 

[Avilaj07]

Jarnkrok missing from practice. No reports of injury. Can something be happening?

 

[SprDaVE]

Jarnkrok missing from practice. No reports of injury. Can something be happening?

he is injured -- day to day

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838607548917715426

 

[thusk]

How many if those players have been IIHF World Championship MVP, all-star, and leading scorer as centres?

I didn't say he was necessarily the best fit for centre - I was responding to someone who said he had never played it.

As a centre you can't use your speed to beat the opposing D? Somebody should explain that to McDavid!

Instead of speculating about what he maybe can and can't do, why not let him play a few games and see?

1- Still junior stuff... They're a world of difference between both...

2- no body in this league can play like mcdavid so if you want to play like him good luck. A bif part of Nylander scoring chance came off the rush when hes able to get caught a defender off feet to get 2v1, breakaway or clean shot in the slot.

It doesn't mean it isn't a best fit for him, does it? I mean he might be best as a C, but if he doesn't get reps in at some level, you eliminate that possibility from his future.

..and absolutely you can use your speed to your advantage at C, or any position for that matter...

what i said is he will need to find an other way to create thing. It's the challenge he will need to face ( also defensive part) and its what that will determine if hr still at C or come back on wing

 

[Legion34]

I have hope for quillan as a 4c for some reason. Probably not this year but he struck me as a player.

Grebs would be the one I think makes the push/jump if anyone this year but u hope they just let robi play.

 

[Martin Skoula]

1- Still junior stuff... They're a world of difference between both...

2- no body in this league can play like mcdavid so if you want to play like him good luck. A bif part of Nylander scoring chance came off the rush when hes able to get caught a defender off feet to get 2v1, breakaway or clean shot in the slot.


what i said is he will need to find an other way to create thing. It's the challenge he will need to face ( also defensive part) and its what that will determine if hr still at C or come back on wing

MacKinnon plays a fast C game but he’s obviously out of Nylander’s league, there’s still guys like Barzal and Larkin that make their impact off of speed and not much else. Larkin has a heavier game I guess, but if Barzal can LARP as a fake 1C I don’t see why Nylander can’t when he’s bigger, stronger, and an infinitely better shooter without giving up anything on the speed or playmaking side. If we have a Horvat level 2C come in, sure put Nylander back at W, but our plan B behind Matthews right now is an aging Tavares on an expiring contract and a slower and worse defensively Domi.

 

[thusk]

MacKinnon plays a fast C game but he’s obviously out of Nylander’s league, there’s still guys like Barzal and Larkin that make their impact off of speed and not much else. Larkin has a heavier game I guess, but if Barzal can LARP as a fake 1C I don’t see why Nylander can’t when he’s bigger, stronger, and an infinitely better shooter without giving up anything on the speed or playmaking side. If we have a Horvat level 2C come in, sure put Nylander back at W, but our plan B behind Matthews right now is an aging Tavares on an expiring contract and a slower and worse defensively Domi.

how he adapt/ or not will determine what will happen

 

[notDatsyuk]

1- Still junior stuff... They're a world of difference between both...

2- no body in this league can play like mcdavid so if you want to play like him good luck. A bif part of Nylander scoring chance came off the rush when hes able to get caught a defender off feet to get 2v1, breakaway or clean shot in the slot.

IIHF World Championship is junior?

That has to be the lamest excuse you've ever come up with for your weird bias against Nylander.

I didn't say he was as good as McDavid, just pointing out that 'centres can't rush ' is really dumb. Actually, as Nylander said, centres have more space to rush.

 

[SprDaVE]

I have hope for quillan as a 4c for some reason. Probably not this year but he struck me as a player.

Grebs would be the one I think makes the push/jump if anyone this year but u hope they just let robi play.

He's probably getting NHL games this year if the Leafs need a center. He's pretty solid all around. He needs a huge AHL season to me though.

 

[andora]

Skinner, e. Kane, toffoli, hyman, huberdeau, forsberg, konecny, schwartz, kreider, eberle, drouin, marner, ehlers.. couple of player who played as a C in the other league outside of NHL and didn't play that position in NHL.

The fact he having skill and played at the position doesn't mean its the best fit for him in the NHL.

And yes he need time to ajust but all the scoring chance he create by beating d with his speed will not be possible anymore as a center. He will need to find an other way to produce and its where the challenge will be offensively if he still playing at C.

If he succeeds at center will you be ok

 

[thusk]

If he succeeds at center will you be ok

if he's able to adapt at C, dont have any problem to see him here. Anything that could help the team is a good thing.

If its just to make the team worst, i dont see the interest of keep doing it... but will need some game to really see what it could like

 

[Kiwi]

He's probably getting NHL games this year if the Leafs need a center. He's pretty solid all around. He needs a huge AHL season to me though.

Then he needs to be in the top 6 all season and on both special teams units, same with Minten and the experienced guys they bring in need to do some donkey work so we can prioritize those guys development