GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Dreakmur]

Interesting... but then, not exactly a position of need for the Devils. Assuming Hamilton is healthy, they've got Hamilton, Marino and Nemec on the Right side already. I'd guess they'd be moving Marino if they sign Pesce.

Marino is probably better than Pesce. That would be a bad move.

 

[613Leafer]

Not sure on the credibility of the account here but fwiw

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805267815580025285

He's from Tarrytown NY (like an hour from the Devil's arena) and played as a teen in Jersey.


So it wouldn't be shocking, but who knows how credible the source is.

 

[4thline]

McGroarty would be an interesting move. Risky giving up those kind of assets for someone that hasn't played in the NHL, but if he translates an ELC player of that talent level changes the look of the F group for the next three years in a big way

 

[Fogelhund]

Don’t like giving up the two assets for 1 in the first and Minten.

That being said will McGroarty be more selective about his destination? That would impact his value.

I’d do our 1st and Robertson though.

Normally the winner of a trade, is the team who gets the best player... it's pretty clear who that would be in this case.

 

[Kiwi]

You talk as if these guys are guaranteed and every year NCAA players don't become NHL players, nor stars.

Guys who score like that in the NCAA at 20 years of age usually develop into something

He's a much better bet right now than either Minten or #23

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Not sure on the credibility of the account here but fwiw

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805267815580025285

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805269802375581937

 

[Evilhomer]

It won't be surprising if Pesce signs with an American team. I don't think there was any reason to believe he would come to Canada.

 

[Dekes For Days]

It won't be surprising if Pesce signs with an American team. I don't think there was any reason to believe he would come to Canada.

I think more people are confused with it being NJ than it being an American team.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It won't be surprising if Pesce signs with an American team. I don't think there was any reason to believe he would come to Canada.

I wonder if New Jersey would trade Marino on the cheap to get Pesce before his NTC kicks in?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Marino would be great

 

[LeafSteel]

Marino would be a terrific target if he somehow shakes free.

Like the idea of McGroarty but I really hate the thought of trading our 1st again and again and again….

I’d be ready to move Robertson and another piece, but really hate missing on that 1st.

It just weakens us from using it for anything else, from a trade like Marino or drafting a player who will be a desperately needed ELC.

Hate this constant trading of 1sts and we have a pitiful number of draft picks in the top 2 over the next few years.

The cycle we are stuck in sucks.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Marino would be a terrific target if he somehow shakes free.

Like the idea of McGroarty but I really hate the thought of trading our 1st again and again and again….

I’d be ready to move Robertson and another piece, but really hate missing on that 1st.

It just weakens us from using it for anything else, from a trade like Marino or drafting a player who will be a desperately needed ELC.

Hate this constant trading of 1sts and we have a pitiful number of draft picks in the top 2 over the next few years.

The cycle we are stuck in sucks.

Marino would be great

McGroarty for our 1st+something like Minten or Robertson would be fine by me, he's more developed and higher upside.

Minten if he pans out is a good 3C but could be a 4C, it just fits the competitive life cycle of the team PLUS

Cowan, Knies, Grebyonkin, McGroarty and Nylander...you should have 4 top 6 wingers there.

RE: Marino, he seems like he'd shake free right? Hamilton, Marino and Nemec are the right shots under contract currently.

 

[Fogelhund]

Marino would be a terrific target if he somehow shakes free.

Like the idea of McGroarty but I really hate the thought of trading our 1st again and again and again….

I’d be ready to move Robertson and another piece, but really hate missing on that 1st.

It just weakens us from using it for anything else, from a trade like Marino or drafting a player who will be a desperately needed ELC.

Hate this constant trading of 1sts and we have a pitiful number of draft picks in the top 2 over the next few years.

The cycle we are stuck in sucks.

I get the hesitancy of trading a first... but it's not for a short-term rental older player. It's for a guy who was just a first, on an ELC, who you can control for a very long-time. It's like trading a first, for a first from a prior year... so I'm fine with that... plus, we'd end up with an upgrade likely on whomever we'd draft anyway.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

Robertson + Liljegren for Mc Groarty and a 3rd Rd pick would be my offer, I think Jets need right handed D..I really want to keep our pick this draft but I also love Mc Groarty

 

[Evilhomer]

I think more people are confused with it being NJ than it being an American team.

Maybe it says something about how Hamilton's recovery is going.

 

[jaric1862]

Have to think One of Hamilton / Marino are dealt.

Would be funny if it was back to Carolina for Necas

 

[Gaberd2608]

Robertson + Liljegren for Mc Groarty and a 3rd Rd pick would be my offer, I think Jets need right handed D..I really want to keep our pick this draft but I also love Mc Groarty

I agree. I dont see Brad moving that 1st for a disgruntled college prospect. I am all for taking a flyer on him but if the 1st is moved, it should be for something that will help us today ie: top 4 defenseman.

We have enough prospects and young players that assuming he would come here, a deal could happen.

I would push for Minten and Lilly or Timmins.

 

[aingefan]

We're talking 3.5M-4M here

That's Samsonov money essentially on a 92M cap

It's a risk but there's plenty of reward and LTIR is something we've been able to weaponize over the years so it wouldn't kill us

Yeah, and it’s buying a couple of UFA years which could be a lot more costly if he stays healthy.
The average salary on an 88m cap is around 4-4.4mil depending on roster size.

 

[Fogelhund]

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Would this guy be the best right handed shooting D we've had in the AM/MM/WN years?

Pretty sad when you think about it.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Marino + Holtz + 10th OA for Marner

 

[leafsfan2point0]

1st + Robertson for McGroarty
Liljegren for Marino
?

 

[Kiwi]

Would this guy be the best right handed shooting D we've had in the AM/MM/WN years?

Pretty sad when you think about it.

By plenty, you could probably argue he'd be our best RD for close on a decade and a half

 

[rumman]

We're talking 3.5M-4M here

That's Samsonov money essentially on a 92M cap

It's a risk but there's plenty of reward and LTIR is something we've been able to weaponize over the years so it wouldn't kill us

Overpaid Nylander, now Woll, didn’t get term on Mathews, so far Benoit and McMann are the only guys signed to fair deals. Can’t wait to see shat mistakes he makes next…….

 

[rumman]

The difference between good gambles, and bad gambles, are if they work out.

True that, is Woll a good gamble? I don’t see why they had to offer that kind of money, and if they didn’t have to why did they? I mwan what leverage does Woll have?