GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Dreakmur]

Even if you were right (you're not), or consistent with that claim (you're not), that wouldn't change that it's not how the league works and your expectations are off.

So Dubas is not smarter than the old dinosaurs? It’s been obvious for years, but I’m glad you can finally admit something negative about your deity.

Results prove me right. You're just ignoring every result except one specific one in this specific instance.

I’m ignoring the meaningless results and focusing on the only one that actually matters. The real results…. Losing early in the playoffs every year…. Those results prove you wrong.

Still no list, eh?

 

[ULF_55]

He's already producing against men, hes 20 points better than Knies at the same age

It hasn't stopped him producing yet


I think they were saying #23 and Minten

I'd easily do that and I desperately want to make that pick

Boys and men ... average age is around 22.

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

www.collegehockeynews.com

I'm less concerned about the pick, losing a center hurts more than winger.

 

[Kiwi]

Boys and men ... average age is around 22.

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

www.collegehockeynews.com

I'm less concerned about the pick, losing a center hurts more than winger.

The NCAA is a pretty competitive league, a lot of guys are taking that route now

Minten struggled to put up good offensive numbers in junior, if he does make it and that's a big if he probably projects as a Kampf type

Certainly not the worst thing but I'd rather get the guy with the ceiling

 

[stats1]

Kind of want the Leafs to make the pick and take a D-man. But 52 points is pretty damn good for a college kid

 

[rumman]

I've long been one of the bigger Woll believers, but that contract seems a bit rich for me, given his injury risk. If he finds a way to stay healthy, and continues his strong play, it will be a steal though.

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.............

 

[Kiwi]

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.............

We're talking 3.5M-4M here

That's Samsonov money essentially on a 92M cap

It's a risk but there's plenty of reward and LTIR is something we've been able to weaponize over the years so it wouldn't kill us

 

[OVO16]

If people want a NHL comparable for Rutger Mcgroarty....I've heard young David Backes.

David Backes had a pretty solid career if Im not mistaken

 

[Fogelhund]

McGroarty mostly seems to be playing LW in all of the videos. Some are claiming he's a C though, but I can't find any evidence of that.

I prefer to send someone like Robertson, than Minten, if that's the case.... Robertson is a winger, prefer to keep our C, given our lack of depth there. I'm all in for trading for him though.

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.............

The difference between good gambles, and bad gambles, are if they work out.

 

[Dekes For Days]

So Dubas is not smarter than the old dinosaurs?

Your error is thinking that your unique expectation is "smarter".

I’m ignoring the meaningless results and focusing on the only one that actually matters.

You're ignoring meaningful results that are critical to that status determination.

 

[Dreakmur]

meet the new boss, same as the old boss.............

Wouldn’t the old boss would let Woll play really well this year and get stuck paying him 6+?

Not saying this is the right move, but if you’re confident in Woll, waiting means the dollars go up.

Your error is thinking that your unique expectation is "smarter".

Hindsight shows it was smarter. Dubas was supposed to use magic computers to have foresight.

Guess he’s not a genius…..

You're ignoring meaningful results that are critical to that status determination.

Only one meaningful result. Playoff results.


Still no on the list?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Wouldn’t the old boss would let Woll play really well this year and get stuck paying him 6+?

Not saying this is the right move, but if you’re confident in Woll, waiting means the dollars go up.



Hindsight shows it was smarter. Dubas was supposed to use magic computers to have foresight.

Guess he’s not a genius…..



Only one meaningful result. Playoff results.


Still no on the list?

Shesterkin probably getting 8-9M per

Saros likely 7.5M+

If Woll pans out, could be a nice deal for us.

 

[Brobust]

Shesterkin probably getting 8-9M per

Saros likely 7.5M+

If Woll pans out, could be a nice deal for us.

There's talk that Shesterkin will be getting the Carey Price contract.

 

[ULF_55]

The NCAA is a pretty competitive league, a lot of guys are taking that route now

Minten struggled to put up good offensive numbers in junior, if he does make it and that's a big if he probably projects as a Kampf type

Certainly not the worst thing but I'd rather get the guy with the ceiling

You talk as if these guys are guaranteed and every year NCAA players don't become NHL players, nor stars.

 

[WTFMAN99]

There's talk that Shesterkin will be getting the Carey Price contract.

He could command it, I feel like they'll get him down to something like 8.75M

 

[613Leafer]

McGroarty mostly seems to be playing LW in all of the videos. Some are claiming he's a C though, but I can't find any evidence of that.

I prefer to send someone like Robertson, than Minten, if that's the case.... Robertson is a winger, prefer to keep our C, given our lack of depth there. I'm all in for trading for him though.


The difference between good gambles, and bad gambles, are if they work out.

McGroarty seems like a pretty safe bet to be at least a good middle 6 NHL, and potentially better.

I agree that moving Minten with how poor our C depth is wouldn't be ideal. I also think of the trade value guys like Adam Fox, Zach Hyman, etc had when they were in a similar situation, and Minten + 1st seems a little rich.

Really it depends on how many NHL teams McGroarty is willing to sign with. If it's ~5-10+ teams, the price should go up as the Jets can create more of a bidding war.

 

[showtime8]

McGroarty seems like a pretty safe bet to be at least a good middle 6 NHL, and potentially better.

I agree that moving Minten with how poor our C depth is wouldn't be ideal. I also think of the trade value guys like Adam Fox, Zach Hyman, etc had when they were in a similar situation, and Minten + 1st seems a little rich.

Really it depends on how many NHL teams McGroarty is willing to sign with. If it's ~5-10+ teams, the price should go up as the Jets can create more of a bidding war.

I don't see the Leafs going after McGroarty, despite how good he looks and projected to be. As it currently stands, they don't have a deep enough farm system to justify moving the deck chairs around to get him.

I think the Leafs take on more of a value approach this off-season and sign some guys that won't get tendered their RFA qualifying offer on cheap 1 or 2 year deals. There's going to be some names that come up leading up to next Monday that no one expected to be available, but the other team doesn't see a fit. For example, I could see Columbus saying that they won't offer Alex Texier a QO with new management and he would be a perfect fit on the 3rd line for Toronto on a 1 or 2 year deal at 1.25.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Hindsight shows it was smarter.

Only one meaningful result.

You're wrong on both fronts.

 

[TMLAM34]

I really wanted McGroarty at the draft, kid is going to be a really good NHL player. A 1st and Minten is fair but given our lack of center prospects it makes it tough to do. I’d rather do a 1st and Robertson.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Don’t like giving up the two assets for 1 in the first and Minten.

That being said will McGroarty be more selective about his destination? That would impact his value.

I’d do our 1st and Robertson though.

 

[Dreakmur]

You're wrong on both fronts.

Keep editing posts you reply to, it’s very on brand.

And still no list? Geeze, it must be pretty sad.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Not sure on the credibility of the account here but fwiw

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805267815580025285

 

[Dekes For Days]

Keep editing posts you reply to, it’s very on brand.

Quoting all relevant parts of your post isn't editing FYI. It's just staying on topic.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not sure on the credibility of the account here but fwiw

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805267815580025285

500 followers

I think someone else more reputable had put that out there in the last week though.

That figures to free up one of Hamilton, Marino or Nemec but probably 1 of Hamilton or Marino as they're the big tickets.

 

[showtime8]

Editing out important context is dishonesty.

Still no list?

Move along here folks.

 

[Fogelhund]

Not sure on the credibility of the account here but fwiw

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805267815580025285

Interesting... but then, not exactly a position of need for the Devils. Assuming Hamilton is healthy, they've got Hamilton, Marino and Nemec on the Right side already. I'd guess they'd be moving Marino if they sign Pesce.