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GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

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Avilaj07 said:
With the Markstrom rumors coming out now, it tells me Treliving is definitely looking for a true #1. In saying that, what goalies are available? You have Saros, Ullmark, anyone else? Ullmark isn't coming here as we're on his no trade list, Saros will cost a ton.
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If it’s even true, us being on his no trade means nothing. I’d bet every team with even a possible need in goal is on his 5-team no trade list. That is how you control your fate.
 
Markstrom was one of the players Treliving had before and liked and had a relationship with. He has a hard-on for former players

I don't think he's gonna offer up the same package for other goaltenders out there. I expect a goalie to sign in free agency.

I am however curious to see if he uses Liljegren and our 1st in separate deals/trades for another position instead
 
Gallagbi said:
Price and target. I don't mind Markstrom, but a first + for 1 year as a 34 year old is rough
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Markstrom has 2 years left and will only cost Jersey 4.1M per after retention. That’s barely more than we paid Samsonov for his tire fire of a season last year.

Obviously the price will have to be commensurate with term remaining and any retention.

That said, don’t get me wrong, I would much rather Ullmark or Saros, but as much as we have all talked about it we don’t have any actual evidence that Saros is or will be available from the Preds. And any deal with Boston is going to be challenging.
 
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What he does is based on what happens in free agency. If he signs Bert and 2 very good dmen he may go 1a and 1b in goal
 
OVO16 said:
Markstrom was one of the players Treliving had before and liked and had a relationship with. He has a hard-on for former players

I don't think he's gonna offer up the same package for other goaltenders out there. I expect a goalie to sign in free agency.

I am however curious to see if he uses Liljegren and our 1st in separate deals/trades for another position instead
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Same package maybe not. Different but not necessarily cheaper.

Assuming Boston and Nashville were both willing to do a deal with us on Ullmark and Saros.

Markstrom had 2 years left where Saros and Ullmark both have 1.
Markstrom had 30% retention which Boston certainly isn’t doing, Nashville might.
However Saros and Ullmark are 29 and 30 instead of mid 30s and imo both better goaltenders

darrylsittler27 said:
What he does is based on what happens in free agency. If he signs Bert and 2 very good dmen he may go 1a and 1b in goal
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You’re probably right, but if it were me, I’m easily shoring up our goaltending before worrying about bringing Bertuzzi back
 
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Dreakmur said:
You're confusing comparisons to Dubas as praise.
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No, I'm showing the inconsistency in your argument. According to your own stated standards, you should be "denying their existence".
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And still, the mediocre drafting isn't the end of the story with Dubas. Even when he did land a pick, we failed to develop them or traded them away.
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What an odd statement. We kept almost all of our drafted prospects.
Between 2018-2022, we drafted 35 players. We traded away... 3. And Abramov was just to open up a contract spot, so only 2 "landed picks".

Durzi, years before he even "hit", to bring in a top pairing defenseman long-term.
Sandin, after 5 years of extracting almost all of the surplus value out of him, to get a 1st round pick that has produced an excellent prospect.
 
Sypher04 said:
Markstrom has 2 years left and will only cost Jersey 4.1M per after retention. That’s barely more than we paid Samsonov.

Obviously the price will have to be commensurate with term remaining and any retention.

That said, don’t get me wrong, I would much rather Ullmark or Saros, but as much as we have all talked about it we don’t have any actual evidence that Saros is or will be available from the Preds. And any deal with Boston is going to be challenging.
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We got awful value out of Sammy, so that doesn't sell me. $4.1M is fine if he plays like he's capable, but I question how capable he is at his age and the last two seasons.

Plus we have limited assets, and a good 1B in Woll who we want to start for playoffs.

I think he's a fit in Jersey, but I'd rather bargain hunt in net for GP than throw a first at it
 
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20 yr old Physical Power forward who grew up a Leafs fan and his favorite player in the world is Auston Matthews?

Is Treliving bout to make a huge offer for Mcgroarty?
 
Gallagbi said:
We got awful value out of Sammy, so that doesn't sell me. $4.1M is fine if he plays like he's capable, but I question how capable he is at his age and the last two seasons.

Plus we have limited assets, and a good 1B in Woll he want to start for playoffs.

I think he's a fit in Jersey, but I'd rather bargain hint in net for GP than throw a first at it
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There’s an argument for that prespective in the bolded. It’s something I wrestle with a bit, but I don’t think the idea of trading a 1st for the right goaltender is at all wrong necessarily. We’ve tried bargain shopping on our goaltending a few times and it’s turned it roughly how one might expect for us.

As for the first paragraph, fully agree. Markstrom to me was a riskier proposition than the others would be, especially Saros. If we could bring in Saros, and get him extended I’m more than comfortable moving a 1st in that kind of move.

OVO16 said:
20 yr old Physical Power forward who grew up a Leafs fan and his favorite player in the world is Auston Matthews?

Is Treliving bout to make a huge offer for Mcgroarty?
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How close to NHL ready is this kid considered?
 
Sypher04 said:
There’s an argument for that prespective in the bolded. It’s something I wrestle with a bit, but I don’t think the idea of trading a 1st for the right goaltender is at all wrong necessarily. We’ve tried bargain shopping on our goaltending a few times and it’s turned it roughly how one might expect for us.

As for the first paragraph, fully agree. Markstrom to me was a riskier proposition than the others would be, especially Saros. If we could bring in Saros, and get him extended I’m more than comfortable moving a 1st in that kind of move.



How close to NHL ready is this kid considered?
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Apprently super close. As soon as next season
 
OVO16 said:
20 yr old Physical Power forward who grew up a Leafs fan and his favorite player in the world is Auston Matthews?

Is Treliving bout to make a huge offer for Mcgroarty?
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McGroarty the NCAA player who still has 2 years of school left?

Has he left school?

Rutger McGroarty Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Rutger McGroarty, a hockey player from Lincoln, NE born Mar 30 2004 who was active from 2020 to 2025.
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ULF_55 said:
McGroarty the NCAA player who still has 2 years of school left?

Has he left school?

Rutger McGroarty Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Rutger McGroarty, a hockey player from Lincoln, NE born Mar 30 2004 who was active from 2020 to 2025.
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He was supposed to sign with the jets this year but instead decided to go back to school. Friedman said this morning theres been trade talks surrounding him and that rumor is he doesn't want to play in winnepeg

This seems like an ideal Brad Treliving player
 
Dekes For Days said:
No, I'm showing the inconsistency in your argument. According to your own stated standards, you should be "denying their existence".
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Still waiting for your extensive list of elite prospects left to us by Lord Dubas....

Dekes For Days said:
What an odd statement. We kept almost all of our drafted prospects.
Between 2018-2022, we drafted 35 players. We traded away... 3. And Abramov was just to open up a contract spot, so only 2 "landed picks".
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What an accurate statement. He's traded away 40% of the picks who've played regularly in the NHL.... and it would have been 60% if not for Shanahan stepping in.

Dekes For Days said:
Durzi, years before he even "hit", to bring in a top pairing defenseman long-term.
Sandin, after 5 years of extracting almost all of the surplus value out of him, to get a 1st round pick that has produced an excellent prospect.
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Even if you think they were good reasons, those moves still depleted the pool.
 
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Most people think McGroaty is ready now, it was a surprise when he went back. Seems now to be mainly due to not wanting to sign with Winnipeg.

As much as I would be interested in him, we have to admit there is some risk. Unless he reneges on his commitment to go back, he’ll only be one year away from choosing his destination when he can sign again. It’s possible at that point he decides to do the full 4 and pick his spot. You’d have to be very confident of his intentions to give up his proper value right now.
 
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TheDoldrums said:
Most people think McGroaty is ready now, it was a surprise when he went back. Seems now to be mainly due to not wanting to sign with Winnipeg.

As much as I would be interested in him, we have to admit there is some risk. Unless he reneges on his commitment to go back, he’ll only be one year away from choosing his destination when he can sign again. It’s possible at that point he decides to do the full 4 and pick his spot. You’d have to be very confident of his intentions to give up his proper value right now.
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I assume any team acquiring him has that convo with him directly
 
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