GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Dreakmur]

Actually, what I said in a small portion of my post is that he was "much better at replenishing the pool" than Lou, which is true.

Lou didn’t do a particularly good job drafting, but he still produced 4 good NHLers in just 2 drafts - Auston Matthews, Joseph Woll, Timothy Liljegren, and Carl Grundstrom.

Dubas had 5 drafts and has produced 5 players, with a couple more that are likely or possible future players.

Sandin, Durzi, Holmberg, Robertson, and Knies.

Minten is likely.

Neimala, Grebyonkin, and Hildeby are possibles.

One of those guys did a bad job adding and the other is an all-timer…

And then you pretended that all of our young players and prospects were bad.

“pretended”

Covering your eyes doesn't make something stop existing.

Nor does it spontaneously create it.

Unless Hudson Malinoski has a time machine, that will be pretty hard.

He can travel to London and meet Easton Cowan.

 

[Stephen]

OEL is actually in a 3rd pair...much easier than playing on top pair against toughest matchup like he did in Vancouver

OEL was a much more productive add than Klingberg. Great value for Florida.

 

[LeafSteel]

Lou didn’t do a particularly good job drafting, but he still produced 4 good NHLers in just 2 drafts - Auston Matthews, Joseph Woll, Timothy Liljegren, and Carl Grundstrom.

Dubas had 5 drafts and has produced 5 players, with a couple more that are likely or possible future players.

Sandin, Durzi, Holmberg, Robertson, and Knies.

Minten is likely.

Neimala, Grebyonkin, and Hildeby are possibles.

One of those guys did a bad job adding and the other is an all-timer…



“pretended”



Nor does it spontaneously create it.



He can travel to London and meet Easton Cowan.

Is your mission today to see how many fanbots heads you can make explode?

I salute your sir.

Continue please.

 

[Gabriel426]

Re: Ross Colton


He's being mentioned as a dump ... so send a cheaper dump back.

Jarnkrok / Kampf

Still pricey bc Leafs will need to pay him 4 mil

 

[ER89]

I’d prefer they just not overpay anyone at any time

Touche

 

[ULF_55]

Any word on Klingberg?

Wonder if he'd take Giordano's money?

...
Brady Skjei
Elias Lindholm

+​

Minten
Cowan
Grebyonkin
Niemela

Not sure, without moving Khampf / Jarnkrok how they get Lindholm and Skjei though.

 

[ULF_55]

Still pricey bc Leafs will need to pay him 4 mil

People want to pay Domi more ...

 

[Gabriel426]

People want to pay Domi more ...

Who?
Most here said Domi should be getting what he got last year and probably less due to term

 

[thusk]

OEL was a much more productive add than Klingberg. Great value for Florida.

Klinberg played 3 game healthy, how can you know what he would do and what would be his impact?

 

[pspot]

If panthers collapse …again I wonder if a marner for ekblad and knight would make sense for both sides . They resign Montour

 

[Stephen]

Klinberg played 3 game healthy, how can you know what he would do and what would be his impact?

We know his impact. He played 3 healthy games like you said.

 

[thusk]

We know his impact. He played 3 healthy games like you said.

easy to say his impact was pretty weak because of an injury but absolutly nobody could expect injury... It could be OEL who get injured or whatever...

find a better answer, sorry.

 

[aingefan]

There is a cost to waiting for a defenceman to break out who has been stagnant for years - paying for an RD every tdl to jam into the lineup down the final stretch so Lily can sit in the press box come playoff time.

Lily is a solid asset for many teams to have, and maybe Toronto is actually one of them, but we're sort of forced by timeline not to be.

I'd keep him to play with Benny on the third pairing if that's how it shakes out, but if McCabe can take that spot then cut him loose and don't look back.

Ironically, that’s the reason why it takes so long for young Toronto players to get a strong footing, especially on the bottom half of the roster.
I think he’s got a lot more to give.

 

[JEI]

Re: Ross Colton


He's being mentioned as a dump ... so send a cheaper dump back.

Jarnkrok / Kampf

Jarnkrok +. I think other teams will offer a better package, but Jarnkrok offers a 40pt utility player on a cheaper contract.

Still pricey bc Leafs will need to pay him 4 mil

He's worth it. Strong middle-six forward. Upgrade on what we have now. Think he would look great with Holmberg.

Any word on Klingberg?

Wonder if he'd take Giordano's money?

...
Brady Skjei
Elias Lindholm

+​

Minten
Cowan
Grebyonkin
Niemela

Not sure, without moving Khampf / Jarnkrok how they get Lindholm and Skjei though.

Lindholm @ 7m
Skjei @ 7.5m
Stolarz @ 2.5m
Hakanpää @ 1.5m

Waive Reeves.

Trade Robertson, Lilijgren

Leaves 500k in cap space. Could make it work by promoting youth afterwards for forward ranks.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Maybe an Oilers game 7 win and Montour hits UFA. Add him and a shutdown D like Tanev and we’re in good shape.

 

[Fogelhund]

Klinberg played 3 game healthy, how can you know what he would do and what would be his impact?

By watching his negative impact the year before he came here?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Lou didn’t do a particularly good job drafting, but he still produced 4 good NHLers in just 2 drafts - Auston Matthews, Joseph Woll, Timothy Liljegren, and Carl Grundstrom.

Matthews was an obvious 1st overall. That's not good drafting. That's just having a horrible team. Beyond him, you're attempting to praise a bottom pairing defenseman, 4th liner, and backup goaltender that made the NHL in their 5th, 5th, and 8th year after being drafted, while simultaneously spending this entire discussion mocking and "denying the existence" of any kid or prospect that populates a lesser role or hasn't hit the arbitrary playoff standards you hold nobody else to, within 1-6 years of being drafted.

One of those guys did a bad job adding and the other is an all-timer…

I wouldn't really call Dubas an "all-timer" yet, but Lou certainly did a poor job adding.

He can travel to London and meet Easton Cowan.

Meeting Wes Clark's pick still wouldn't get Hudson Malinoski on the team faster than players that have already been on the team for years.

 

[thusk]

By watching his negative impact the year before he came here?

We can say the same exact thing with Benoit with the same exact team or telling the same thing with OEL. Do that mean he didn't had an nice impact this season?

 

[Fogelhund]

We can say the same exact thing with Benoit with the same exact team or telling the same thing with OEL. Do that mean he didn't had an nice impact this season?

Clearly you didn’t actually watch any of these players to make such a statement.

 

[ER89]

Lou didn’t do a particularly good job drafting, but he still produced 4 good NHLers in just 2 drafts - Auston Matthews, Joseph Woll, Timothy Liljegren, and Carl Grundstrom.

Dubas had 5 drafts and has produced 5 players, with a couple more that are likely or possible future players.

Sandin, Durzi, Holmberg, Robertson, and Knies.

Minten is likely.

Neimala, Grebyonkin, and Hildeby are possibles.

One of those guys did a bad job adding and the other is an all-timer…



“pretended”



Nor does it spontaneously create it.



He can travel to London and meet Easton Cowan.

My grandmother couldnhave drafted Matthews tf

 

[TMLAM34]

Ross Colton would be a great target IMO. Something around Jarnkrok for Colton.

 

[thusk]

Clearly you didn’t actually watch any of these players to make such a statement.

OEL was totally trash in Vancouver and Benoit is a guy anaheim didn't qualify and nobody wanted him so he had to start in the AHL...

Klinberg production/60 minutes played playing most time in an tradh team vs rielly production in a high offensive team

0,32 goal/60 and 1,01 pts vs 0,17 goal and 1,05 pts/60 minutes at 5v5

 

[Roo]

I’d love to see them bring in Lindholm. We need another quality two way center. Someone that can allow us to shift Tavares to the wing. Lindholm makes a big difference in the dot and on pk, and was solid for Van in the playoffs. Might be someone Tre had interest in given their time in Cal.

Also, Boston and Carolina will likely be looking to add him. It’s obviously not our #1 need, but we need someone like him.

 

[Gallagbi]

OEL was totally trash in Vancouver and Benoit is a guy anaheim didn't qualify and nobody wanted him so he had to start in the AHL...

Klinberg production/60 minutes played playing most time in an tradh team vs rielly production in a high offensive team

0,32 goal/60 and 1,01 pts vs 0,17 goal and 1,05 pts/60 minutes at 5v5

Kling was a bottom pair PP specialist seeing reduced time as the year went on. After going to Minny he was their #6 and really saw a limited role. We knew what we were getting, but people hoped it was enough offense

OEL was an overpaid D with expectations mounting. Still a half decent player, but not the #1 Van expected or paid for.

Benoit ended up as a 6 for us in a relatively specialized role making under a million. One of the things he provided was safe minutes, which is the opposite of Klingberg.

It's risky to bring in a bottom pair offensive specialist because they really have limited usage.

 

[Fogelhund]

OEL was totally trash in Vancouver and Benoit is a guy anaheim didn't qualify and nobody wanted him so he had to start in the AHL...

Klinberg production/60 minutes played playing most time in an tradh team vs rielly production in a high offensive team

0,32 goal/60 and 1,01 pts vs 0,17 goal and 1,05 pts/60 minutes at 5v5

You didn’t actually see any of them play correct?