GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Torontonian]

Perron was very good for a long time but yeah... Not sure we should be in the market for a 36 year old that already started to regress. But if the price is very good and he's willing to go short-term, he's a great vet. I don't see the fit though overall.

Toronto has learned nothing if they give a 36 year old a 3 year contract. the 35+ contracts are killer because you can't make em retire. Just like what Marleau did to us.

There's also younger and better options for us then him.

 

[socko]

They're bringing Domi back. He's replacing Marner as Matthew's setup man. He broke his hands fighting for Matthews. He's a good passer. And he's made that line noticeably faster too in addition to the obvious physical play. He loves the Leafs. This is a no-brainer. Deal will get worked out.

 

[SprDaVE]

Toronto has learned nothing if they give a 36 year old a 3 year contract. the 35+ contracts are killer because you can't make em retire. Just like what Marleau did to us.

There's also younger and better options for us then him.

Pretty much. I just don't see the fit or the vision with that kind of move, especially if they are also bringing back Bertuzzi and Domi.

 

[Tony Romo]

Yeah, the first line next year should be Knies - Matthews - Domi. Everything else can be thrown in a blender.

 

[OVO16]

Pagnotta also mentioned the Leafs having interest in Perron a couple of weeks back.

Hope the cost and fit are right. Also, have to assume Kampf and Jarnkrok are gone. I deem Perron at best as a Jarnkrok Replacement

 

[Americanadian]

Perron is scary. His underlying numbers suggest he is a black hole at ES. If Marner is gone and you want to throw him on PP1 that's fine, but you'd then have to shelter him at 5v5. The AAV better reflect his usage.

 

[TMLAM34]

Perron was awful last season, Wings fans are happy to be moving on from him.

 

[OVO16]

Perron as a Jarnkrok replacement is fine. But if he ends up being a potential marner replacement in the top 6. we downgraded bad

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Perron was awful last season, Wings fans are happy to be moving on from him.

True, but he had 24 goals last year and 27 goals the year before. I guess the question is - that hopefully Leafs staff get a good read on - whether this year was an anomaly or the begging of the end.

 

[Americanadian]

True, but he had 24 goals last year and 27 goals the year before. I guess the question is - that hopefully Leafs staff get a good read on - whether this year was an anomaly or the begging of the end.

The underlying numbers suggest the latter.

 

[Torontonian]

This will be a scary off season FA wise, a lot of buyer beware type players, and sadly I think Toronto would be targeting them.

 

[rumman]

I like what Domi did but the reality is winger is our least important position to allocate money to this offseason. Centre, defense and goalie are all more pressing needs. It’s why I’m also fine with letting Bertuzzi walk. Knies, McMann, Cowan, Robertson…we will have cheap options at wing. And there will always be a winger or two in free agency willing to take a 1 year prove it deal with us for the chance to play with our stars.

It’s hard for me think locking in Domi/Bertuzzi long term makes any sense with their ages and our options, even if they take under market AAVs. Rather just try to get someone like Perron on a 1 year deal and roll with our cheaper options.

If Marner can’t be moved I’d spend every penny on the D, address G and F once JT and Marner are gone……..

 

[Menzinger]

I like what Domi did but the reality is winger is our least important position to allocate money to this offseason. Centre, defense and goalie are all more pressing needs. It’s why I’m also fine with letting Bertuzzi walk. Knies, McMann, Cowan, Robertson…we will have cheap options at wing. And there will always be a winger or two in free agency willing to take a 1 year prove it deal with us for the chance to play with our stars.

It’s hard for me think locking in Domi/Bertuzzi long term makes any sense with their ages and our options, even if they take under market AAVs. Rather just try to get someone like Perron on a 1 year deal and roll with our cheaper options.

I find both players to be entertaining so I'm fine keeping them lol

But the team could use some consistency in terms of it's second tier support players. Gives guys time and space to grow with the team.

The cap is likely going to take some nice jumps in the coming years which I think will ease the burden of them even signed at like 4-5 mil a piece

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Would you do this:

Kris Letang/Braden Yager (PENS)

for Mitch Marner (LEAFS)


Why Leafs do it: Letang has a 6.1 cap hit and is signed for a few more years. Not too bad given what he gives you. What does he give you? He had 51 points last year, so he still has the offense. He also has the puck-moving skills that we need and the PP quarterbacking ability. Would need to be paired with a defensively responsible player though given his defensive blunders. Yager is the Pens best prospect - has 2nd line center written all over him. We also open up a lot of cap space with this deal.

Why Pens do it: Dubas loves Mitch! Crosby gets a star on his wing. Mitch gets to continue to put up a lot of points. The team gets a shake up. This also allows Dubas to rebuild on the fly. A proper rebuild for the Pens is dangerous for Dubas. Could lose his job and maybe even his opportunity to continue to be a GM in this league. A smooth transition from the old guys to the new guys works in his favour. Also, some have argued that Karlsson does much better when he is the man. Maybe getting rid of the other "man" helps Karlsson's game. At this point in time, Karlsson is there for the long-haul and it may be more prudent for Dubas to plan with him in mind than with Letang.

 

[Fogelhund]

Given the (@$(T#& Capitals have purchased CapFriendly, and are going to shut it down, I figured I'd work on my mock scenario one last time, in honour of what a great resource it's been. I just need a goalie...

Trades​

1.

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TOR​

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1. Wright, Shane
2. 2024 1st round pick (SEA)

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SEA​

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1. Marner, Mitchell

2.

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TOR​

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1. McBain, Jack
2. 2024 2nd round pick (UTA)

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UTA​

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1. Järnkrok, Calle
2. Kämpf, David
3. Robertson, Nicholas

Free Agent Signings​

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dewar, Connor	2	$892,500
Robertson, Nicholas	3	$1,200,000
Gregor, Noah	2	$800,000
Steeves, Alex	2	$850,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Domi, Max	4	$4,000,000
Montour, Brandon	5	$7,500,000
DeMelo, Dylan	4	$4,570,000
Roy, Matt	4	$4,500,000
Kane, Patrick	2	$4,000,000

Draft Picks - Click draft pick to insert into trade​

DRAFT	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$87,500,000	$21,545,500	$0	$3,062,500	$4,954,500

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Buyout

Add to Trade

Prorated Cap Hit

Roster​

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Domi, Max $4,000,000 C, RW UFA	Matthews, Auston $13,250,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Kane, Patrick $4,000,000 RW UFA
McMann, Bobby $1,350,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 1	Cowan, Easton $904,667 LW, C RFA - 3
Knies, Matthew $925,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Wright, Shane $886,667 ( $3,062,500) C RFA - 3	Nylander, William $11,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 8
Gregor, Noah $800,000 LW, RW RFA	McBain, Jack $1,599,999 C, LW RFA - 1	Dewar, Connor $892,500 LW, C RFA
Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000 RW UFA - 2	Holmberg, Pontus $800,000 C, LW RFA - 1	RW5
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Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Montour, Brandon $7,500,000 RD UFA	Woll, Joseph $766,667 G RFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Roy, Matt $4,500,000 RD UFA	G2
Benoit, Simon $1,350,000 LD UFA - 3	DeMelo, Dylan $4,570,000 RD UFA	G3
Timmins, Conor $1,100,000 RD RFA - 1	RD4

 

[Menzinger]

Would you do this:

Kris Letang/Braden Yager (PENS)

for Mitch Marner (LEAFS)


Why Leafs do it: Letang has a 6.1 cap hit and is signed for a few more years. Not too bad given what he gives you. What does he give you? He had 51 points last year, so he still has the offense. He also has the puck-moving skills that we need and the PP quarterbacking ability. Would need to be paired with a defensively responsible player though given his defensive blunders. Yager is the Pens best prospect - has 2nd line center written all over him. We also open up a lot of cap space with this deal.

Why Pens do it: Dubas loves Mitch! Crosby gets a star on his wing. Mitch gets to continue to put up a lot of points. The team gets a shake up. This also allows Dubas to rebuild on the fly. A proper rebuild for the Pens is dangerous for Dubas. Could lose his job and maybe even his opportunity to continue to be a GM in this league. A smooth transition from the old guys to the new guys works in his favour. Also, some have argued that Karlsson does much better when he is the man. Maybe getting rid of the other "man" helps Karlsson's game. At this point in time, Karlsson is there for the long-haul and it may be more prudent for Dubas to plan with him in mind than with Letang.

There's a logic to it.

But I think I'd rather the team get a younger NHL roster player than Letang as the main piece

 

[Torontonian]

The UFA center market is really slim pickings, unless you are signing the higher end FA such as Lindholm ,Stephensons ,Monahan, Wennberg, it's bad. Can see Toronto holding onto Kampf for that exact reason, which isn't good for us because that 3C hole is hurting.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

Sucks I love Capfriendly

Spotrac is the only other site I can think of to use going forward.

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not the same, but i think they will look to replicate more capfriendly features when it goes dark and no fear of retribution

 

[Fogelhund]

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not the same, but i think they will look to replicate more capfriendly features when it goes dark and no fear of retribution

I hope so... Capfriendly has been such a great resource for fans. It's purchase actually downgrades the hardcores fans experience with the NHL..

 

[Folignos Helmet]

I think Matt Roy should be our top priority this off-season through free agency. Acquiring a second pairing RHD without giving up assets would be huge.

McCabe - Roy would make a nice shutdown physical pair. Roy would help on the PK as well.

i would target him and still beat the drum of trying to trade for Whitecloud out of vegas who are up against cap and have cheaper alternatives for him.

Rielly - Whitecloud
McCabe - Roy

would be a nice top 4, roll a cheap 3rd pair of Benoit and Timmins or a cheap vet, until the deadline and see what you can add.

Yea, Markstrom was once the "next" big goalie, as he was a fairly high pick and killed it at the World Juniors. Seems he's ridden that reputation ever since.

Like sure, he had a few legit good years, but his career save % is 0.909 - Reimers by contrast is 0.910 (he started right around the same time, and is obviously a goalie Leafs fans don't see as a quality #1G).

Markstrom is 32/34 goalies since his first NHL game for save % (minimum 400 games played), and his past two seasons were bad, and 3 of his last 4 seasons were bad. So we're going to give up assets and take on his multi-year large caphit... For what reason exactly? May as well roll the dice on Stolarz/Benoit + Woll, not give up assets, and only give a short term cheapish contract.

Markstrom always seems to be around the mid year Vezina conversation and then his numbers end up average, which is not a good sign.

 

[fahad203]

So what's everyone's opinion on Markstrom link?

I wouldn't mind if we can send a contract the other way like Jarnkrok

He'll only cost 2.5 more than Sammy did. He can hold the fort for another year or two

He still has a lot of mile left in him

Depends on what it costs us.

 

[pspot]

Domi was surprisingly strong on face offs, that's the only reason i pencil him back in

 

[fahad203]

Domi was surprisingly strong on face offs, that's the only reason i pencil him back in

He's versatile that's for sure. I'll take him over Jarnkrok anyway. I am OK giving 3.5 a year for 3 years if we can dump Calle

 

[SprDaVE]

Domi was surprisingly strong on face offs, that's the only reason i pencil him back in

I did like his versatility. It adds depth. He was so much better than I thought he'd be down the middle.

 

[TMLAM34]

Grebenkin is a wildcard for me. Based off his numbers in the KHL and others who have transitioned to the NHL, he’ll probably be able to crack the roster.

I can see him doing really well with a player like Nylander but you’d have to go out and find a pretty strong defensively responsible center.