GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition
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Captain Crunch
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That is true, but I hope Tre has drawn a line in the sand when it comes to individual contracts and the salary cap. Both he and Berube are all about “team” instead of “the core and everybody else” stupidity that Shanahan seemed to embrace, which had to cause some sort of divide in the room.
Brobust
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I've been saying Vlasic + Nazar too. But I'd be relatively satisfied with either return.
Absolutely hate this. He is nowhere near as good as people’s perception of him.
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Dach with Montreal.
Depends on the contract. He brings puck moving ability from the backend. I agree that giving him a lot would be a mistake.
Feels like it could be a Jeff Finger move all over again.
I wouldn’t mind Walker but at the right price and as a third pair defenceman with Benoit. He’ll probably get more but I honestly wouldn’t go past 2.75 - 3 million per.
Why would we want a 3rd pair D. We have those. Walker is small and was a cap dump. Thrn traded to col to play 16 min a night.
Rielly
McCabe
Benoit.
Would rather spend 7 on Montour/Skej then 4 on walker
Rielly
McCabe
Benoit.
Would rather spend 7 on Montour/Skej then 4 on walker
Kurtz
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If the rumour about us trying to bring back Edmund is true, then Edmund-Walker 3rd pairing makes some sense on paper I guess. Not at 4m, mind you.
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SprDaVE
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Walker was very good for Philly and was pretty solid for the Kings. I don't think he was used well with Colorado though and he struggled last I checked.
He'd be a pretty good target to bolster our 2-way ability and adding a good RHD that can play and down the lineup.
He'd be a pretty good target to bolster our 2-way ability and adding a good RHD that can play and down the lineup.
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He was not good for the Kings the last few years. His play fell off in 2020-21.
I think we need a better puck mover than him, someone who can be a legit threat as a point shot on the PP. Montour is that guy.
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Agreed - I think this is just baseless speculation. Our sights should be set higher. Would rather bring Klingberg back on a cheap 1-year deal than bid on term and comp with Walker.
Pesce is a bad contract waiting to happen. Luckily he's American, he'll choose Nashville over Toronto every time
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I think you'd get him to be a mid-pair PKer that adds skating ability at best, he wouldn't be added to replace the Montour level addition that is needed. Basically replacing Brodie in a way.
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I don’t think you can get it all done in off season but going into playoffs you’d like to see that Benoit-McCabe duo as the third pair.
Maybe during the season you need McCabe on the second pair and Benoit on the third with someone like Timmins or Lily if he stays.
That would leave you with 2 guys to get in offseason instead of 3. And get the third at the deadline.
Walker I don’t know where he would slot maybe 2nd pair and drops to third pair in playoffs. Likely not worth the contract he will get.
Maybe during the season you need McCabe on the second pair and Benoit on the third with someone like Timmins or Lily if he stays.
That would leave you with 2 guys to get in offseason instead of 3. And get the third at the deadline.
Walker I don’t know where he would slot maybe 2nd pair and drops to third pair in playoffs. Likely not worth the contract he will get.
Whatever cap space the Leafs seem to have this year 18mil and next with JT gone is a mirage.
Domi, and Bert, are two top 6 forwards, resign them or replace them will take 9mil. Then you have to sign a goalie. Even if they have the balls to bet on Woll, they will sign a 1B type that will be at 3mil. That’s 12mil gone. The remaining 6mil will need to be spend on 2 Dman and a 12th forward. In order to just have a starting lineup without anyone in the press box.
Then the following year, assuming MM is back and with his current contract. Leafs will have JT’s 11mil plus whatever the cap increase to resign McCabe, Knies, Holmberg and Woll. Which barring injuries, McCabe will at least ask for what he is getting now which is 4mil, that’s 2mil more what Leafs is paying, Knies should be 3-4mil, Holmberg 1.5-2mil and Woll at 4-5mil(if he is healthy and plays good all season), that’s 9-10mil increase. Plus you let Cowan fill in at JT’s spot for 950k.
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He’s already regressing, let another team regret signing him, he’ll get a good payday, hope it’s elsewhere…….
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Toronto is not like the rest of Canada. McCabe had every Canadian team on his NTC except Toronto.
Considering how much help we need on RHD, the RHD UFA’s available and how much this guy will ask, this feels like really aiming low.
2 of Roy, Pesce, DeMelo, Montour, Tanev, etc, need to be priority.
If you really need to look at 3RHD (I still think Liljegren is a viable option there for less than you would pay), then you look at guys like Desharnais or Chatfield, or even a guy like Colin Miller.
Not much interest in what Walker will ask vs how he should be slotted in our roster.
Considering the cap challenges, particularly if we don’t move off of Marner, Treliving will need to find good value for his money.
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Marek thinks Skeji and Pesce are going to Utah and there will be a huge demand on dmen. Carolina and Utah have many spots open. Leafs will have to overpay Pesce to come here. I would pass.
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