Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[rumman]

Tanev wouldn’t be bad. I’d like to see this team get a little younger though on the backend.

And you know he’d get hurt right after being acquired…….

 

[Menzinger]

Elliotte Friedman when asked by a 7 year old what Toronto is looking for: “I think they’re looking for D” 32 Thoughts

“The one I can see is Zadorov. I’ll bet you this, I’d they could find a way to get Zadorov and Tanev I bet you they would do it. I really believe it” 32 Thoughts

Elliotte Friedman on 32 thoughts talking about the Friday Leafs meeting “I heard one of the things said in there, no one will confirm it, other teams know they can push us around”

Hope folks aren't attached to this seasons 1st round pick

 

[WTFMAN99]

Hope folks aren't attached to this seasons 1st round pick

I know some people will have differing opinions than me on this but I wouldn't put it on the table until the trade deadline is closer and you can be sure of your position.

The only other scenario where I consider moving it is if I am getting a high end controlled age appropriate defenseman, otherwise the division is too tight and we've not looked good enough for me to make the move.

 

[ULF_55]

I know some people will have differing opinions than me on this but I wouldn't put it on the table until the trade deadline is closer and you can be sure of your position.

The only other scenario where I consider moving it is if I am getting a high end controlled age appropriate defenseman, otherwise the division is too tight and we've not looked good enough for me to make the move.

That's a tough one.

Cost controlled top 4 defender you can fit into the Cap.

 

[ACC1224]

I know some people will have differing opinions than me on this but I wouldn't put it on the table until the trade deadline is closer and you can be sure of your position.

The only other scenario where I consider moving it is if I am getting a high end controlled age appropriate defenseman, otherwise the division is too tight and we've not looked good enough for me to make the move.

IMO, if the player you want is available you don't wait. Worse case you can always try and get one back.

 

[WTFMAN99]

That's a tough one.

Cost controlled top 4 defender you can fit into the Cap.

Chances are the other team would work to fit $ in/out but I would work hard to make it work

IMO, if the player you want is available you don't wait. Worse case you can always try and get one back.

I agree on this but the person who is making the evaluation of the value of the pick vs the player...if they're wrong it could be bad.

If we acquire Zadorov and Tanev but Tanev gets injured early or Zadorov doesn't help and we still suck and end up trading a top 10 pick for a couple of rentals, it would be unfuriating because that 10th overall pick (as an example) is either adding a real talented player to your organization or a hell of a trade chip to add a better defenseman in the off-season.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Elliotte Friedman when asked by a 7 year old what Toronto is looking for: “I think they’re looking for D” 32 Thoughts

“The one I can see is Zadorov. I’ll bet you this, I’d they could find a way to get Zadorov and Tanev I bet you they would do it. I really believe it” 32 Thoughts

Elliotte Friedman on 32 thoughts talking about the Friday Leafs meeting “I heard one of the things said in there, no one will confirm it, other teams know they can push us around”

Wrong guy from Calgary.


Also, with Peeke. If he can't crack CBJs lineup, can he really be expected to make an impact as a top 4 here?

 

[ACC1224]

Chances are the other team would work to fit $ in/out but I would work hard to make it work



I agree on this but the person who is making the evaluation of the value of the pick vs the player...if they're wrong it could be bad.

If we acquire Zadorov and Tanev but Tanev gets injured early or Zadorov doesn't help and we still suck and end up trading a top 10 pick for a couple of rentals, it would be unfuriating because that 10th overall pick (as an example) is either adding a real talented player to your organization or a hell of a trade chip to add a better defenseman in the off-season.

Yeah there are no guarantees, I don't think you can worry about that.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Hope folks aren't attached to this seasons 1st round pick

Well, everyone should be used to it by now.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Wrong guy from Calgary.

I would pay a lot for Rasmus Andersson.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I would pay a lot for Rasmus Andersson.

Yes, or Weegar.

 

[Dreakmur]

Disagree. Tavares wasn't just a free wallet, he was a free wallet stuffed with cash.

You take that asset.

But as you suggest, keeping Matthews and marner at double digits was perhaps a mistake?

This, however, neglects to point out the COVID Cap, changed everything. Probably 6-8mm from where it would have been.

You don’t spend a huge part of the cap on a player you don’t really need. We had Kadri at 2C and last Nylander could have transitioned there.

Keeping Matthews is obvious. Keeping two offensive right wingers was dumb.

As many have said before, the flat cap impacted every team and every players. If the cap went up, so would the price of all the contracts we signed. Brodie, for example, signed for 5 because of the cap - he likely gets 6 if the cap goes up normally. Same goes for every other contract signed. It had a negligible impact on our poor cap structure.

 

[Magic Man]

Wrong guy from Calgary.


Also, with Peeke. If he can't crack CBJs lineup, can he really be expected to make an impact as a top 4 here?

I think many are looking for a Schenn clone. Safe, simple minutes next to Mo, but a physical presence at the same time. Schenn hasn't always had a perfect road in the NHL, he's fallen as far as the AHL before rising again. I think Peeke could be a buy low target of a similar ilk that could play that role.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I think many are looking for a Schenn clone. Safe, simple minutes next to Mo, but a physical presence at the same time. Schenn hasn't always had a perfect road in the NHL, he's fallen as far as the AHL before rising again. I think Peeke could be a buy low target of a similar ilk that could play that role.

It's understandable in terms of the style of dman, but it seems like a big ask to go from not dressing in CBJ to possibly 20+ minutes a night.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Hopefully we can wait until we're on a hot streak before we make any trades. Calgary is an obvious trade partner.
- Former team of our GM
- They suck, we're trying to compete
- They have tons of D we covet, and we have picks they covet

Hard to see us winning a trade honestly. Those guys are going to be very attractive trade deadline players.

 

[jaric1862]

I wonder what the Cost of Zadorov + Tanev @ 50% retained is

 

[BertCorbeau]

I think Zadorov will cost more than he’s worth.. but that’s me

 

[rumman]

I think Zadorov will cost more than he’s worth.. but that’s me

adding Zardorov, Tanev, and Peeke would make a difference, one of the three, no so much.........

 

[baton elevated]

I don't believe this team is one or two players away from Contending. They have a lot of issues to address. We've given up too much h draft equity in the past for a short term fix which didn't push any further ahead. This team isn't close and until JT is off the books just stay the course.

 

[SprDaVE]

I don't believe this team is one or two players away from Contending. They have a lot of issues to address. We've given up too much h draft equity in the past for a short term fix which didn't push any further ahead. This team isn't close and until JT is off the books just stay the course.

I think that's also the correct thing to do. I don't think they have a lot of holes as much as they lack available assets, and cap space, to make additions. Obviously a lot can change by the deadline in terms of injuries/needs but I think you can just hope the team gets hot at the right time similar to the Panthers last year.

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Tanev
Zadorov
Mangiapane

To Calgary-
Brodie
Jarnkrok
Niemela
Robertson
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Mangiapane-Tavares-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Domi-McMann
Gregor-Kampf-Steeves
Reaves

Rielly- Tanev
Zadorov-Liljegren
McCabe- Klingberg
Giordano

 

[Evilhomer]

To Toronto-
Tanev
Zadorov
Mangiapane

To Calgary-
Brodie
Jarnkrok
Niemela
Robertson
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Mangiapane-Tavares-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Domi-McMann
Gregor-Kampf-Steeves
Reaves

Rielly- Tanev
Zadorov-Liljegren
McCabe- Klingberg
Giordano

Can't trade Robertson after he gets a couple of goals tonight.

 

[Avilaj07]

Can't trade Robertson after he gets a couple of goals tonight.

What good are goals when we're allowing 5 a game with our current defense. This team will never learn.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

To Toronto-
Tanev
Zadorov
Mangiapane

To Calgary-
Brodie
Jarnkrok
Niemela
Robertson
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Mangiapane-Tavares-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Domi-McMann
Gregor-Kampf-Steeves
Reaves

Rielly- Tanev
Zadorov-Liljegren
McCabe- Klingberg
Giordano

Would do it in a heartbeat. So I doubt Flames would.

Also won’t fit under the cap.

 

[Jozay]

I don't believe this team is one or two players away from Contending. They have a lot of issues to address. We've given up too much h draft equity in the past for a short term fix which didn't push any further ahead. This team isn't close and until JT is off the books just stay the course.

100% not a contender this year. Lots of work to do on the ice and seems like theres a hell of a lot of work to do off the ice too.