Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[Darcy Tucker]

I like Reaves to Chicago. They can use an enforcer for Bedard and they are tanking anyway why not play the worst winger in the league.

I think we need to hold on to Kampf and his faceoff prowess. In the playoffs it will be invaluable. I get the trying to free up cap though but Kampf doesn't make enough to warrant ditching him for a pick. We already have Domi taking draws if Tavares get an injury we are toast up the middle.

The rest seem kind of random.

 

[notdoneyet]

I like Reaves to Chicago. They can use an enforcer for Bedard and they are tanking anyway why not play the worst winger in the league.

I think we need to hold on to Kampf and his faceoff prowess. In the playoffs it will be invaluable. I get the trying to free up cap though but Kampf doesn't make enough to warrant ditching him for a pick. We already have Domi taking draws if Tavares get an injury we are toast up the middle.

The rest seem kind of random.

Kampf at 2.4 on the fourth line is unacceptable
He is not good enough offensively for 3rd line
He is redundant on our team and we can sign/trade for fourth line crash and bang center

 

[WTFMAN99]

5th CAL 2024, 5th CHI 2025 and Reaves for FC with Chicago

7th OTT 2024 and Kampf to NSH for EDM 4th 2024

 

[Torontonian]

We have too many holes to fill at TDL.

Our team is just not a good team.
Starts with Keefe not utilizing the players like spread the big 4 on 3 lines to try to spread the scoring.
Or Keefe not having structure with team defense.
Then players need to buy in, play hard and be accountable. Look at McD and Drai, they are back checking hard and making it difficult for the other teams. How many teams do we see our top guys just gave up on plays or gave a half a*s efforts.
Our top guys need to be better and carry the team on their shoulders like Sammy or Jones or Woll when the team just sucks.
Our defense needs to just keep it simple instead of overthinking zone exit all the time.
Forwards need to win more board battles and lay their bodies for the team.

Agreed, team has too many holes to fill at the deadline. System is a issue, depth scoring is a issue, d-core is a issue. Next year is also going to be rough one as well trying to upgrade everything as currently this what the roster looks like.

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
13	$87,700,000	$65,594,667	$0	$0	$22,105,333

Prorated Cap Hit

Roster​

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $13,250,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 1
LW2	Tavares, John $11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 1	Nylander, William $11,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 8
LW3	Kämpf, David $2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
LW4	Holmberg, Pontus $800,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000 RD RFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667 G RFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	RD2	G2
LD3	RD3	G3

 

[rumman]

The Leafs didn’t want Ruzicka trust me. He might go on a 20 game point streak but it’s all smoke and mirrors. The guy has zero desire he doesn’t even try. He is eventually going to be pushed out of the league and end up in Europe where he can float around and make plays

Sounds like he’d fit in nicely in Toronto……

 

[darrylsittler27]

Yeah we need to stop pretending. This team is a huge mess.

 

[rumman]

Best plan is to ride out this season without making any trades and then see what happens in the summer.

Yup, maybe another playoff failure will get the attention of MLSE board and fire Shanahan’s ass to the moon……..

 

[Kiwi]

5th CAL 2024, 5th CHI 2025 and Reaves for FC with Chicago

7th OTT 2024 and Kampf to NSH for EDM 4th 2024

No matter what it takes I think we need to get rid of Kampf, Timmins and Reeves

I'm also willing to move Liljegen and Robertson if they want to much money or we can put them in a deal for an upgrade
Reluctantly

 

[DarkKnight]

I like Reaves to Chicago. They can use an enforcer for Bedard and they are tanking anyway why not play the worst winger in the league.

I think we need to hold on to Kampf and his faceoff prowess. In the playoffs it will be invaluable. I get the trying to free up cap though but Kampf doesn't make enough to warrant ditching him for a pick. We already have Domi taking draws if Tavares get an injury we are toast up the middle.

The rest seem kind of random.

Kampf is only 51 percent on the draw this year, same last. Domi is actually better this year. It's a bit of a myth his face off prowess, he's good not great. We act like he's money on key draws, he's the worst center, that's JT.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Kampf is only 51 percent on the draw this year, same last. Domi is actually better this year. It's a bit of a myth his face off prowess, he's good not great. We act like he's money on key draws, he's the worst center, that's JT.

Yeah just checked up the numbers and I kind of agree with you. I thought Kampf's numbers were elite like 55% plus but he's never had a year like that. That being said Kampf's career numbers are 3 points better than Domi's. 51.5 to 48.5 roughly.

I dunno I just prefer Domi on the wing he is kind of clunky and odd looking sometimes. Not an ideal 3rd line checking center. He has some nice passing skills and toughness I'll give him that.

4 goals for 3 million ain't cutting it though. If he bet on himself with that 1 year deal to play his way to a better salary it may have backfired.

 

[DarkKnight]

Yeah just checked up the numbers and I kind of agree with you. I thought Kampf's numbers were elite like 55% plus but he's never had a year like that. That being said Kampf's career numbers are 3 points better than Domi's. 51.5 to 48.5 roughly.

I dunno I just prefer Domi on the wing he is kind of clunky and odd looking sometimes. Not an idea 3rd line checking center. He has some nice passing skills and toughness I'll give him that.

4 goals for 3 million ain't cutting it though. If he bet on himself with that 1 year deal to play his way to a better salary it may have backfired.

Kampf is for sure a better checker than Domi. It's just, and I used to do this too, we always point to Kampf on the draw to rationalize his otherwise uselessness, when really he's just decent. That said, he's our only PK center really, we need those draws.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Yeah I'm ok with Kampf as a 4th line foot soldier who can kill penalties and keep it simple. He has a revolving door of linemates so maybe that affects his timing and production. He's paid maybe 500k too much but it's better than having an AHL level center taking draws.

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Provorov
Peeke
Jenner

To Columbus-
Brodie
Jarnkrok
Holmberg
Kokkonen
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Bertuzzi-Jenner-Domi
Gregor-Kampf-McMann

Rielly- Peeke
Provorov Liljegren
Benoit-McCabe

 

[OVO16]

I like Reaves to Chicago. They can use an enforcer for Bedard and they are tanking anyway why not play the worst winger in the league.

I think we need to hold on to Kampf and his faceoff prowess. In the playoffs it will be invaluable. I get the trying to free up cap though but Kampf doesn't make enough to warrant ditching him for a pick. We already have Domi taking draws if Tavares get an injury we are toast up the middle.

The rest seem kind of random.

They have Nick Foligno and Tiniordi as their enforcers. Not to mention a bunch of gritty grinders. Thats practically what their team is made of. I see no need for them to take reaves unless we're attaching an asset to get rid of him which I doubt we will do

Columbus is a team I can see potentially being interested in Reaves. They are in more dire need of grit and an enforcer imo

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah I'm ok with Kampf as a 4th line foot soldier who can kill penalties and keep it simple. He has a revolving door of linemates so maybe that affects his timing and production. He's paid maybe 500k too much but it's better than having an AHL level center taking draws.

He's making 2.5M to be extremely bad at his job, I can get that for league minimum

So he's making 1.5M to much and that money could be spent better elsewhere

If you get over league min you better be at least decent at your job and he's not even that

 

[Darcy Tucker]

They have Nick Foligno and Tiniordi as their enforcers. Not to mention a bunch of gritty grinders. Thats practically what their team is made of. I see no need for them to take reaves unless we're attaching an asset to get rid of him which I doubt we will do

Columbus is a team I can see potentially being interested in Reaves. They are in more dire need of grit and an enforcer imo

Yeah but those are welterweights. Reaves is a legit goon who can dummy someone to send a message. For instance that dman who broke Bedard's jaw isn't going to get jumped and beaten by Foligno. I guess what I really mean is I want Reaves gone asap so he doesn't touch the ice for us again with his 13 goals against 2 goals for type of play.

He's making 2.5M to be extremely bad at his job, I can get that for league minimum

So he's making 1.5M to much and that money could be spent better elsewhere

If you get over league min you better be at least decent at your job and he's not even that

He's out playing Tavares in recent weeks and he's dependable on the PK. They invested on him based on his decent play last season and he kind of didn't progress. We have far bigger problems on this team. Bertuzzi is over paid by more than 1.5 million and he can't even kill penalties and has a measly 6 goals.

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah but those are welterweights. Reaves is a legit goon who can dummy someone to send a message. For instance that dman who broke Bedard's jaw isn't going to get jumped and beaten by Foligno. I guess what I really mean is I want Reaves gone asap so he doesn't touch the ice for us again with his 13 goals against 2 goals for type of play.


He's out playing Tavares in recent weeks and he's dependable on the PK. They invested on him based on his decent play last season and he kind of didn't progress. We have far bigger problems on this team. Bertuzzi is over paid by more than 1.5 million and he can't even kill penalties and has a measly 6 goals.

There's kids in bantum playing better than Tavares right now, that isn't a standard

Bertuzzi goes away next season, Kampf is around and bad and overpriced for another three, also our PK blows

He has to go, you can use his money plus to go after a good defensive center like Wennberg, that's an improvement

 

[Darcy Tucker]

I mean I wouldn't be sad if he was traded I just said I don't think it's a good tactical move to just cap dump him right now when it's such a small figure. Kampf could always train hard in the off season and come back better next season. Who knows. He definitely played better last season

 

[LeafEgo]

I mean I wouldn't be sad if he was traded I just said I don't think it's a good tactical move to just cap dump him right now when it's such a small figure. Kampf could always train hard in the off season and come back better next season. Who knows. He definitely played better last season

Kampf is a solid 4th C and admirably filled 3C in the playoffs - think he had top 6 minutes. Great stuff.

But 2.4 is too much for a 4th C as we are currently constructed. Unless things change, or he turns into a solid 3C somehow, it's not a great situation.

 

[All Mod Cons]

A

No matter what it takes I think we need to get rid of Kampf, Timmins and Reeves

I'm also willing to move Liljegen and Robertson if they want to much money or we can put them in a deal for an upgrade
Reluctantly

As much as we try and will it into existence, I just don't think the deals are there. Tre doesn't strike me as a guy who will make a deal just for making a deal - like Dubus did.

 

[All Mod Cons]

He's making 2.5M to be extremely bad at his job, I can get that for league minimum

So he's making 1.5M to much and that money could be spent better elsewhere

If you get over league min you better be at least decent at your job and he's not even that.

Tavares is making 7 mil more than he should. f*** rate off about Kampf. Jesus Christ. What is wrong with this fanbase?

 

[Kiwi]

A

As much as we try and will it into existence, I just don't think the deals are there. Tre doesn't strike me as a guy who will make a deal just for making a deal - like Dubus did.

I do think we can get rid of those guys if were willing to pay to get rid of them, I'd accept that as a job well done

I do think filling one hole now would help our off-season though, get a 3C Or one top 4D means less work in the off-season because there's multiple holes to fill

 

[Kiwi]

Tavares is making 7 mil more than he should. f*** rate off about Kampf. Jesus Christ. What is wrong with this fanbase?

He has a full NTC, if we could get rid of him I would but I'm not a complete moron so I'm doing what is possible to make our cap situation manageable with what I've got

You may just lay down and play dead because Tavares won't **** off but I won't so get bent

 

[All Mod Cons]

I do think we can get rid of those guys if were willing to pay to get rid of them, I'd accept that as a job well done

I do think filling one hole now would help our off-season though, get a 3C Or one top 4D means less work in the off-season because there's multiple holes to fill

Dude, and I don't mean to single you out, I'm so sorry, I agree with pretty much everything you say. I love ya.

But Jesus Christ (fellas and lasses) we have an 11 mil 2nd line centre playing at a replacement level.

We have 11 mil in complete dead cap space.

We are letting go the fact the house is on fire, and complaining about the lawn and the garbage bins.

Gat a f***ing grip guys I beg you.

 

[OVO16]

NHL is so boring compared to other leagues. GM's are so vanilla. No trades ever happen. No juicy rumors. Good god no wonder this league is will never be a main attraction

Gotta wait until trade deadline itself and even then its practically 4th liners getting traded.

Also why tf is the trade deadline so far away. March 8th? seriously?